@Seanie,ACLumsden - Mohammad was a 25 year old when he married his first wife -wealthy 40 yr old Khadija. As an old man he lusted after the daughter of his best friend Abu-Bakr when she was not even 3 yr old child telling him he will marry her.His friend was apalled ,but as usual nobody denies a prophet who always seemed to have a suddden " revelation" allowing him to conduct himself against the X Commandments given by The One True God as quidance for all people,God Who " Hates divorce" … [Plus]
@ Sankt Michael - Understood, even though the language is unbecomming of polite discourse. However, no one here is saying that Islam is correct (read the posts again if needed). What we are saying, is that there is a reason for Islam conquering the Christian strongholds in antiquity and that these reasons are similar to those which apply to today's Muslim encroachments on Western Civilisation. These reasons are firmly located in the willful uprooting of our Western Society from our Christian … [Plus]
@ Sankt Michael - I am affraid that your point is pedantic at best. The grammar of the Latin original does not posit any new idea supporting your thesis, viz. " if you have true christian faith, that Islam is wrong". What pray tell are you trying to say? Is the Roman Church, ex documenta incorrect? Do hone in on what you want to say..... At this time you come across vague at best.
Nostra Aetate, Paulus PP VI - “The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself; merciful and all-powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth, who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God. Though they do not acknowledge Jesus as God, they revere Him as a prophet. They also honour Mary, His …[Plus]
“What a vile religion Islam is” - Seánie, there is nothing funny about paedophilia and its occurrence in the three Abrahamic faiths. I’m well aware of the Koranic texts that you allude to. I certainly do not endorse paedophilia which was practised in many cultures of the past, and particularly prevalent amongst the rich, the powerful, and the cultured classes. Does the scandalous behaviour of the late Fr Marcial Maciel Degollado mean that the many Legionaires of Christ are evil? Of course not! … [Plus]
@ Seanie - Not at all, you do! Just by having this conversation, is evidence of that! We all have a brain and intelligence - just keep your mind working dear friend. Always question what you think, read, enter into discussion with chaps more learned than yourself. This will 'tease' thought to begin. Locate a learned priest who has the necessary gifts of Spirit and Humanity with whom to talk and wrestle with ideas, thoughts and concepts.
@ Seanie - Oh dear... you simply keep missing the point. Age is not important for the ancient code of behaviour of which I spoke in my last post. The concept is completely modern. This is why you and I, with our modern eyes would look upon this and judge so severely.
Christianity made progress and civilised the world. All our temporal law is a derivitive of Roman Law which was Christianised with Justinian the Great 15 centuries ago. Islam on the other hand has held on steadfastly to the old … [Plus]
@ Seanie - A conclusion arrived at by complete ignorance of responsible scholarship.
Did you know that it was permissible in the early Christian Church to take the wife of ones dead brother and rare children by her in his name? Not only permissible, but socially expected. Do we do this today? No. Consider for a moment that St. Basil the Great was 'set up' with a wife at the tender age of 10yrs, and expected to function as a husband once the ceremony was complete. He wasn't even a man yet!! But … [Plus]
@RomanCandle: funny you mention the evil of pedophilia in the Church. You are surely aware that the founder of Islam was a pedophile who had sex with a 9 year old child, calling her his "wife".
This is the difference between the two religions: one was founded by a pedophile, the second by the Son of God Himself. A bad tree can only bring forth bad fruit. The fact that there were, and are, evil perverts in the Church does not change the truth about Islam.
@RC - Ah! I now see where you were coming from in your post. Thanks for clarifying that for me and for the rest of us. Yes, some folk do speak befor ethey think (do the necessary research, reading, etc.). This is my grouse with many of the posters here. But, we all live and learn!
ACL, can I firstly say that I'm aware that there are many churches that are built on former pagan sites. My reason for raising the point about the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Assumption being set on the site of a former pagan temple was to address the words of Irenaeus that stated “This was always a Christian site”. I note you mentioned in your previous post the Byzantine masterpiece of the glorious Hagia Sophia in Istanbul. Let us not forget that the Great Mosque of Damascus was built on a … [Plus]
@RC - Quite! However, so were ALL the sites of the Roman Basilicas and Station Churches! For example, the foundations of the pagan temple of Jupiter supports the foundations of the Lateran Basilica.... If therefore, you mean that the original pagan religions have a right to worship at the ancient sites of their ancestors, then the New Age chaps may do their sacrifices to Jupiter (now the spirit of the whatever!) in the Lateran Basilica. Then, across the pond, the Aztec have a right to worship … [Plus]
It is interesting to note, that the history of the site where the Cathedral currently stands was originally a pagan temple, then a Church (St Vincent) before the Moors commenced the building of the Great Mosque of Cordoba, c 786. The building of the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Assumption was commenced in 1523, and occupies 7% of the total floor area of the Great Mosque of Cordoba.
Roman Candle....Ireland was a Catholic State....and evil did flourish in the Church. Though as Catholics we do have separate functions for Church and state...you know.
But do you see the mess of secular democratic Ireland now?....the Irish don't even own the ground they stand on anymore....and in secular society worldwide the problem of paedophila grows. Who knows what is on the computers of a people whose 'conscience' is determined by majority vote. In some quarters there is talk of lowering … [Plus]
“What a vile religion Islam is” - Before we cast the first stone against another religion, let us remember with sadness and sorrow on this feast day of Saint Norbert that an Irish Norbertine priest sexually abused and indecently assaulted over 100 children in the United States, the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland (from the 1940s to the 1980s). It is a disgrace that Brendan Smyth was allowed to carry out his crimes over such a long time period unhindered. Regrettably, neither the … [Plus]