I had here, but have since recycled, a book on ecumenism by Cardinal Bea given me in the early 1960s. So Fr. Martin's tale of His Eminence's sweating bullets over the designs of the radical fringe didn't quite ring true.
Fr. Martin is usually scrupulous about not violating his oath to keep quiet about the contents of the Third Secret. I notice during this interview he, perhaps inadvertently, lets the cat out of the bag somewhat, when he referred to a chastisement. Is this an element of the Secret which has already been in circulation?