REVTHREEVS21: Read what I have written again! I repeat, the act itself is a mortal sin, but the disposition (i.e. of being gay) is NOT! You seem to have the two muddled up in your mind. THe Church, as you have rightly quoted below, speaks of the "acts of homosexuality" not the homosexual as a human being. AGAIN!! It is the ACT - that is two men having sex - which is the sin, NOT the disposition (of being gay).... Yet again you have read the text and still you DO NOT understand the text!! Try … [More]

ACLumsden: Catechism of the Catholic Church. Page 625. No. 2357

"Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominate sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexaul acts as acts of GRAVE DEPRAVITY, tradition has always declared that … [More]

REVTHREES21: As I said before, there is only ONE interpreter of Holy Scripture, and She is the Holy Roman Catholic Church. I trust you don't consider youself more erudite and Spirit-filled than the Holy Roman Catholic Church. Therefore, the ONLY interpretation of St Pauls epistles (they are NOT gospels!) comes from the Magesterium of the Roman Church. So you arguing as you are from an ex verbatum (i.e. 'it is written, therefore it is so') rendering of scripture, without the backing of the Roman … [More]

Fundamentalism at its worst???? ACLUMSDEN....Apparently my brother, I am not as cultured as you are. I hardly think, King David, and Jonathan, who loved each other, were secretly hiding there mortal sin of Sodomylet alone, trying to influence the entire Davidic Kingdom, with there rights to Have Sodomy, legalized??? I am just following the teaching of the greatest Convert in History. St. Paul. I hardly need to take the time, to quote scripture, because we both know, St. Paul said, with no … [More]

Gosh.... fundamentalism at it's worst here! REVTHREEVS21: scripture also gives hundreds of other laws in Deut. and Levt. one of them says that we men must be circumcised; we cant eat the flesh of cloven-footed animals, etc. Then there is St Paul in his letters with his views on the female human being which are quite culturally conditioned. Reaching back into the old testament, there is Ezekiel with his 'ban' and graphic sexual imagery. (ban=kill everything that moves) These are all WRITTEN, … [More]

Revspitz: Lutheran or not, at least you don't have to worry about sins of ommission in Judgement. Love the sinner but hate the sin. I think you are taking a rather correct stand on the issue of homosexuality. After all, as I commented to ACLumsden. If the Lord changes his stand on that issue. He will have to repent, for turning, Sodam and Gomorah into molten lava.......I don't think there is any grey area, concerning, Leviticus 18:22 or 20:13. I think our two Catholic brothers, EJGCatholic, and … [More]

RevSpitz.
just wondering if you are still a Lutheran, as stated last year, or if you are in the catholic Chucrh. yet
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Revspitz: This issue is not as black-and-white, or so clear as you would have us believe: e.g. if a woman murders her husband because he beat her for 40 years and this time, he raped her, is she to be convicted of 1st degree murder? No, compassion and human decency argues for leniency - even though the LAW says otherwise. God's law is - if you rmemeber your new testament theology - consists in this: That you love the Lord your God with all your mind, heart and strength; and your neighbour as … [More]