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HerzMariae  25/09/2009 10:41:13
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ACLumsden  30/09/2009 09:19:25
rhemes1582: Frater! Don't be miffed that I didnt reply sooner, twas time to go to work here! Here is a copy of what I said to Maria in a message:
"Yes, in Europe the faith has moved from being luke-warm among
› numerous people (ie having a FULL church) to distilled and fervent in smaller numbers. One just has to look at the overflowing Beneditine Solesmes Abbeys of Europe and the traditional parishes!! But they are rather poor in the liberal ones. This is the distillation of which I speak.
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Miss Maria  30/09/2009 08:36:57
I am sure ACL will answer as he is a good hearted soul as we all are here. Being half Spaniard myself I actually was VERY happy to see that ACL mentioned that the faith is still very much alive in Europe!! I too have the impression that our faith was dwindling there for the same reasons Rhemes mentioned. I had the opportunity to message ACL and he put it in very good terms for me to understand taht we are indeed doing well in Europe. I know he will answer (gotta love these time differences … [More]
REVTHREEVS21  30/09/2009 01:04:49
rhemes1582: Join me, in exploring, the Ascent to Mount Carmel....I am having the time of my life, trying to make sense of St. John of the Cross, and his amazing contemplative style, and teaching, in his great writings, I have found on Audio. I have found audio, of the gospel, that EJG, has, and I am getting hooked, on listening to stuff, on audio, rather than reading it. I have found some of the books(audio), on this site from St. John of the Cross, but there are only a few chapters. It just … [More]
REVTHREEVS21  30/09/2009 00:58:54
rhemes1582: Brother, you didn't offend anyone. If ACL does not reply, to your question, its because we are Americans. lol...he thinks less of us, because of our culture. He forgets, many in the world, would be speaking German, if it wasn't for us.....

Don't take things personally......

In Jesus and Mary
REVTHREEVS21  29/09/2009 22:57:18
rhemes1582: ACL: Is right, and thats what I see, as our future, the Traditional Mass.....if you get time, you might try listening to
http://wftsradio.com/its a really good, interent, site, that is all Traditional, and I really was led to St. Pius V....one of the Churches, that is highlighted out of New York . I love to listen to there homilies. And I look forward to them, growing, along with SSPX, in this country. It will only be a matter of time, until the Church returns to the Traditional … [More]
ACLumsden  29/09/2009 19:58:15
rhemes1582: I am British and my Father is a Spaniard!! My Catholicity comes to me from recusant England and Catholic Spain. I can say to you that the faith is NOT dying: it has returned to the traditional state, i.e. pre-1962 in terms of Liturgy and very Thomistic (Classical if you will) in terms of Theology (and social praxis).

So if you mean to imply that the faith is dying in Europe, I challenge you to describe WHICH faith, the liberal Roman Catholicism OR the traditional!
REVTHREEVS21  29/09/2009 13:32:59
rhemes1582: Thankyou, my brother: I am very hopeful, as I try and listen to St. John of the Cross, and the Accent to Calvary....and his wonderful work, the Dark night of the Soul, as I type this.....I am very hopeful, because I have a brother, that is not yet Catholic, and he lives in the mountains, an isolated cabin....and I am discipling him. His best friend, had an apparation of Our Lady, at a place in Idaho called Warm Lake. I was evangelizing, using my phone, texting all I knew, and anyone … [More]
Miss Maria  29/09/2009 12:39:39
My dear brothers in Christ,

I am curious to know why it is so wrong to stand up for our Faith? Why are we so worried about speaking the truth? I understand we should not come to others in a disrespectful, rude or abrasive manner.No one listens when we do that, that is obvious. But I think to stand up for what we are, believe in, defend our church and be very grounded in that isvital especially in todays world.

Catholic churches are becoming more and more empty.Especially in Europe. It's … [More]
REVTHREEVS21  29/09/2009 12:36:58
Rhemes1582: Its worse than that, my brother.....and yes, the Vortex is filling in the gap, of the horrible, levels, of Catechising in America. The hardest souls, to reach in my experience, are the cradle Catholics, and the fallen away cradle Catholics. I am horrified, at what comes out of the mouth, of almost. 20 of my friends, whom I have worked with, once I converted to the Church, and started Evangelizing. I was stunned, at how many souls, I worked with for years, were none practicing, … [More]
REVTHREEVS21  29/09/2009 12:24:43
EJG: As far as attack quick-moving apologetics, here in America you are just starting to see, the high level of intellect, sophistication, and spirit to win, that we Americans are so proud of. Its just starting EJG: There is an army of converts, coming into the Church here in America. the Cradle Catholics...prayers are being answered.....Warrior fundamentalists, such as Dr. Scott Hann.....and others....are answering to the call of Pope John Paul II......TO EVANGELIZE.....AND WE AMERICANS, ARE … [More]
EJGCatholic  29/09/2009 11:30:37
i think some object/ tune out, to the very USA style of attack-quick moving apologetics and personality of the host, which,beyond the 'evangelical American context, is hard to understand....my very faithful-conservative catholic friends in Europe , France etc, totally do not like this style, and do not understand how it advances the kingdom, so cultural expression comes into play on the international website.
pax
Miss Maria  28/09/2009 13:52:56

Thanks REVTHREEVS21- I agree with you as well. I think its VERY important that we know who we are and what our faith stands for and what we believe. Michael Voris is very clear in how he says we can't deny our one true faith and that we have to stand up for what we believe because we just tend to "go with the flow". We dont know what we believe in, we don't read about our faith, we get lukewarm and just stagnant. It's very frustrating for at times when I hve others come at me w/misconceptions … [More]
REVTHREEVS21  28/09/2009 13:16:26
Miss Maria: You are so-right, and I might add, that respecting Protestants, has gotten us, a luke-warm Mass. We have literally removed Statues of Mary, out of our Churches, to please Protestants....and all for what? So we can believe, that each believer individually, has the full knowlege to interpret scripture? Why do you think, there are over 33,000 different churches in America, what an embarrassment..... Until, Catholics, stop playing, games with who the Church is, as I noted in scripture … [More]
Miss Maria  28/09/2009 12:45:54
I have been following Michael Voris for a while and have watched most of the seasons for "the one true faith" series and although is approach is very direct and may seem abrasive, he knows what he is talking about. He is coming at it more as a " spiritual combat" mind frame and a let's get real w/our faith attitude without sugar coating it as well helping us to know the ins and outs of our faith.

His show the Votex reminds me a little of Bill Oreilly and his show on Fox. To the point, no spin … [More]
REVTHREEVS21  28/09/2009 11:24:07
ACL: What makes the Vortex in this situation, affective, is these sweeping generalizations, you speak of, is what the Vortex is trying to accomplish in this piece. And you are right, obviously, the next step in this, is common sense, and that commons sense, would lead to verifying, what the vortex is speaking off, by way of scripture.

"You should know how to behave in the household of God which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth." 1 Timothy 3:15
"And I say also … [More]
REVTHREEVS21  28/09/2009 11:01:37
ACL: You would make a great film critic. lol.....
ACLumsden  28/09/2009 10:05:10
fathersofmercy: Quite! HOwever, if Mr Voris gives no references in the video, how would the protestants go and do this 'research' of which you speak? Where would they start? And listen to what?

I really think that if our protestant bretheren are to at least 'listen', i.e. listen to 'the truth', they ought to be treated like the intelligent men that they are. This is not the 1800s when many chaps lacked tertiary education. THerefore, programmes like The Vortex, ought to have some concrete point … [More]
REVTHREEVS21  28/09/2009 10:00:30
Fathersofmercy: I would like to see him do a piece on Ellen White: 7th Day Adventists(Sola Scriptura Only) which leads to, The Branch Davidians....which leads to David Koresh....which leads to the Oklahoma Federal buildings bombing. In other words, I aggree with you fathersofmercy, yes this is a commentary, and yes, you don't need scriptural proof, to see, how deadly, leaving the Church, or following a so-called prophet can become. Most Protestants, need to realize, that once the Authority has … [More]
fathersofmercy  28/09/2009 08:11:31
ACLumsden,Do you think he needs to document that Protestants believe in the "Bible Alone"? This video is a commentary. The Protestants who see this video need to do research, and most of all listen.

God Bless You, John
ACLumsden  26/09/2009 23:44:49
rhemes1582: Indeed my brother. I am just thinking of the protestant audience out there who do visit our RC websites. But I appreciate it as it is. I would just like a more objective aproach [as I have described], so that our protestant bretheren could be more enlightened..and so converted to the only true faith!
ACLumsden  26/09/2009 12:08:49
Excellent video. Thanks. However, Mr Voris makes (and I assume these are his beliefs as well as 'Vortex') sweeping generalisations which he never supports with solid academic evidence (be they ecclesial documents, scripture or Patristic sources), e.g. the Roman Catholic Church promotes the "source and product" of the oral tradition; which source? Where is this statement supported in Magesterial Documents? I am not saying that I do not believe Mr Voris' premiss, arguments and conclusion as a … [More]
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