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Funeral For Murdered Priest - Baghdad. Funeral for a priest who was killed after a raid on the city’s biggest Catholic Church on Sunday.More
Funeral For Murdered Priest - Baghdad.
Funeral for a priest who was killed after a raid on the city’s biggest Catholic Church on Sunday.
Holy Cannoli
I can’t abide offensive language in my company let alone in front of any lady.
I can't abide egomaniacs.
The fact remains that if it wasn't for General Patton and other American heroes like him, you'd be dining on Salzburger Schnitzel and speaking German today.
A quote is a quote. If you want to change or in any way alter the words of that quote to suit your personal self-absorbed morality, you go …More
I can’t abide offensive language in my company let alone in front of any lady.

I can't abide egomaniacs.

The fact remains that if it wasn't for General Patton and other American heroes like him, you'd be dining on Salzburger Schnitzel and speaking German today.

A quote is a quote. If you want to change or in any way alter the words of that quote to suit your personal self-absorbed morality, you go right ahead. If you are trying to show that I was mistaken, help yourself. It won't be the first time I've been mistaken and won't be the last. But, the big difference between you and I is that, unlike you, I will admit to those mistakes and I would never be so full of self-love to say the following.

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I fast every Friday on “bread & water” and pray throughout the day....
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RomanCandle
I can’t abide offensive language in my company let alone in front of any lady. When a quote is attributed - let’s get it straight from the horse’s mouth. SOURCED (Roman Candle) "J**** C*****, it's the G*ddamned Third Army again and that son-of-a-f***ing-b*tch Patton", Gen George S Patton (famous speech to the Third Army, 1944). MISATTRIBUTED (Holy Cannoli) "I want you to remember that no b*stard …More
I can’t abide offensive language in my company let alone in front of any lady. When a quote is attributed - let’s get it straight from the horse’s mouth. SOURCED (Roman Candle) "J**** C*****, it's the G*ddamned Third Army again and that son-of-a-f***ing-b*tch Patton", Gen George S Patton (famous speech to the Third Army, 1944). MISATTRIBUTED (Holy Cannoli) "I want you to remember that no b*stard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor, dumb b*stard die for his country", George C Scott (fictional speech in "Patton" film, 1970).
Holy Cannoli
Thank you MrsRene for that excellent resource.
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Tes, well said and thank you for the clarification.
You wrote:
Many of them will probably have such hatred in their heart, that talks of forgiveness feels as an insult.
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that they would find a way to continue to live without feelings of hatred and revenge, since that is the way that will destroy their own hearts!More
Thank you MrsRene for that excellent resource.
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Tes, well said and thank you for the clarification.

You wrote:
Many of them will probably have such hatred in their heart, that talks of forgiveness feels as an insult.
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that they would find a way to continue to live without feelings of hatred and revenge, since that is the way that will destroy their own hearts!

Those kinds of feelings may be true for some/many of our fellow Christians.
That Our Loving God grants peace to the survivors and eternal rest to those who were killed is, indeed, a very worthwhile prayer.

However, there is no sin if we and they are to seek justice in this world provided we do so without hatred and without allowing our hearts to burn with feelings of revenge. To pray that Our Lord gives these suffering souls peace is, indeed, a noble and charitable thing to do. In addition, to pray that justice may be served and that the perpetrators of this and all such brutal crimes are brought to justice is also a worthwhile and prudent thing to ask. If justice is impossible in these barbaric countries and if it is likely that the persecutions and murderers will continue, then there is only one choice for them to make. Prudence demands that they leave with their lives.

Men who are well disposed are led willingly to virtue by being admonished better than by coercion: but men who are evilly disposed are not led to virtue unless they are compelled. www.lonang.com/exlibris/aquinas/sum12095.htm

The manner and form of the coercion is not specified by Aquinas. Nevertheless, without it, there is chaos and the kind of madness that we witness regularly in Muslim controlled countries. Only if and until those countries are liberated, I see no hope for improvement in the fate of Christians who are living there. They need to leave and praying that they may realize this and have the means to do so is also a worthwhile prayer.

We are, of course, in a spiritual war for the salvation of our souls. And, although it hasn't been formally declared, it should be clear that the world is in a war against Muslim terrorists as well. You ladies may not like this quote but it is from arguably the greatest American General that my country has ever produced and I think there may be an application in these kinds of instances.

The General said:
I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor, dumb bastard die for his country.

Seat of Wisdom, pray for us.
TES
I meant specifically aprayer-chain for those who were slain and their nearest relatives. The congrigation has lost two priests and I'm sure they don't know what to do or where to go. Many of them will probably have such hatred in their heart, that talks of forgiveness feels as an insult. And still life should go on for them, and they should have the hope of being one day united with their loved ones. …More
I meant specifically aprayer-chain for those who were slain and their nearest relatives. The congrigation has lost two priests and I'm sure they don't know what to do or where to go. Many of them will probably have such hatred in their heart, that talks of forgiveness feels as an insult. And still life should go on for them, and they should have the hope of being one day united with their loved ones.
I see now, I wasn't clear enough when I wrote about it the fist time. As I said now, I meant this specific congrigation, the ones murdered and slain and their families, that we would pray for the Blessed Mother and Jesus Christ to give them peace and forgiveness in their hearts and that they would find a way to continue to live without feelings of hatred and revenge, since that is the way that will destroy their own hearts!
mrsreneoriordan
@Tess - I only received this today but I'm sure it's not too late to send an e-mail -
yimcatholic.blogspot.com/…/to-send-letters…
Let them know we care and that we are praying and suffering for them. - Blessings - ReneMore
@Tess - I only received this today but I'm sure it's not too late to send an e-mail -
yimcatholic.blogspot.com/…/to-send-letters…

Let them know we care and that we are praying and suffering for them. - Blessings - Rene
Holy Cannoli
Tes,
You're a kind soul and I would never discourage anyone from prayer. At the same time, I believe it is important in our prayer to be specific in what we are praying for. For example, if someone were to ask me to pray for them, I would ask for what exactly is it that they would like me to pray. If it were for something superficial, eg. a fancier automobile, I would advise that person that having …More
Tes,

You're a kind soul and I would never discourage anyone from prayer. At the same time, I believe it is important in our prayer to be specific in what we are praying for. For example, if someone were to ask me to pray for them, I would ask for what exactly is it that they would like me to pray. If it were for something superficial, eg. a fancier automobile, I would advise that person that having a fancier car is not an appropriate kind of request to be made to Our Divine Savior who wants us to steadfastly seek our eternal salvation and not merely temporal things.

Now, getting to the Iraqi Christians or any other Christians throughout the world who are living under the iron fist of totalitarianism whether it is in Muslim or Communist countries. What should we pray for? Should we pray that the governments of those countries miraculously see their errors and that they suddenly permit Christians to practice their faith and to live in peace? Would that be a realistic prayer for Christians in Muslim countries? Or, should we pray that our poor fellow Christians are relieved from their suffering by either leaving or, if necessary, escaping from the hellholes in which they currently reside?

www.persecutionblog.com/…/who-will-you-pr…

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TES
I feel that the Christians in Iraq need our special prayers. Would a prayer-chain would be a good idea? Are there many who would join the chain, or am I the only one? I've never organized one, who could do that?I think it's terrible, that Iraqi Christians don't even have basic human rights and our "Christian western world" doesn't do anything!!! It's a shame that must make Our Blessed Lady cry! Who …More
I feel that the Christians in Iraq need our special prayers. Would a prayer-chain would be a good idea? Are there many who would join the chain, or am I the only one? I've never organized one, who could do that?I think it's terrible, that Iraqi Christians don't even have basic human rights and our "Christian western world" doesn't do anything!!! It's a shame that must make Our Blessed Lady cry! Who would join a prayer-chain for Iraqi tortured Christians? And who could organize it - I mean how to make time-tables and such?
Jesus said that faith can move mountains - let's at least try to make the world a little better place! 🙏
TES
RIP - This is unbelievable, that such massacres can take place without any concequences!
Holy Cannoli
Al Qaeda threat: Christians are legitimate targets
The authors of the terrorist massacre in the Baghdad church publish a message on the internet that is a threat to all Christians, and make explicit reference to the Vatican.
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While confirming its desire to attack the Christians, the terrorists say they want to give one more chance to the Catholics of the Church of Rome. They claim that "the …
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Al Qaeda threat: Christians are legitimate targets

The authors of the terrorist massacre in the Baghdad church publish a message on the internet that is a threat to all Christians, and make explicit reference to the Vatican.

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While confirming its desire to attack the Christians, the terrorists say they want to give one more chance to the Catholics of the Church of Rome. They claim that "the War Office of the Islamic State of Iraq announced that starting today all the churches and Christian organizations and their leaders are a legitimate target for mujahedeen (
Muslim guerrilla warriors engaged in a jihad)."

www.asianews.it/news-en/Al-Qaeda-threat:-Christians-are-legitimate-targets-19888.html