NASA: Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus NASA fabricated the earth/moon pictures from space supposedly taken during the 1969 Apollo 11 mission and in 2015 by DSCOVR.More
NASA: Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus
NASA fabricated the earth/moon pictures from space supposedly taken during the 1969 Apollo 11 mission and in 2015 by DSCOVR.
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NASA: Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus

NASA: Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus NASA has presented the following two pictures as both being true: Conclusion Clearly, these two pictures …
Pattfm
Pattfm
@mystic Eine erscheinung des Herrn Jesus Christus Just give me the summary, I don't speak/hear the language.
mystic
You don;t take into account that a telemetric lens was used. I used the blender you proposed and made a video.
www.youtube.com/watch
Pattfm
You are in Orthographic projection.
mystic
nope, perspective camera view.
mystic
Pattfm
Ok. Telemetric lenses work with the principle of orthographic projection. Do you agree because the sizes are preserved relatively? A question will follow after you answer...
Pattfm
A side question: Why is the camera using telemetric while perspective is selected?
mystic
in the limit of the focal-length goes to infinity, (telemetric) then the projection will go to orthographic. That is correct. Therefore the NASA picture is what it is. It is all correct. Trust me I am an engineer. But I fear at NASA's they are engineers as well.
Pattfm
"if the limit of the focal-length goes to infinity, then the projection will go to orthographic."
So you are now trying to say that it is a combination of perspective and orthographic?
mystic
It means that if you use a lens with a big focal length, then your projection is automatically always near orthographic. Now the other NASA picture is taken with a lens with a focal length of say 20mm. Then you get what you see in that particular picture.
Pattfm
Ok, that means we can take their ratio?
mystic
With the lens with the great focal distance of 2000 you can take the ratio. And with the lens of 20mm you will see all the perspective.
Pattfm
So the image 2 is what? A combination of orthographic and perspective?
mystic
Image 1- is taken with a telemetric lens with big focal length and thus perspective = near orthometric.
image 2- is taken with a lens with a small focal length and thus real perspective.
Pattfm
Did you misplace image1 for image2 in the comment just above?
mystic
Yes I did! sorry
Pattfm
"Image 2- is taken with a telemetric lens with big focal length and thus perspective = near orthometric.
image 1- is taken with a lens with a small focal length and thus real perspective."

Then permit me to take the ratio of image2.
Pattfm
Are you giving me a go ahead?
mystic
Of course.
mystic
NASA gives me : 223/82 = 2.72
Blender gives: 291/98= 2.96
Earth/moon gives: 12742/3474 =3.66
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mystic
Probably because NASA and Blender gives near orthographic. And 1 million miles is about 4 times the distance earth moon.
Pattfm
I was preparing an image... Let me verify some things...
Pattfm
So that is their way of explaining it? 1 million miles they went on foo, car, rocket. 1 million miles.
mystic
I fear according to the 3rd law of Newton, yes.
Pattfm
Sorry I deleted it. "Do you think anything can move in space". I wanted to end... but I see you are a scientist...
Pattfm
Which is about every action has an equal and opposite reaction. So what is a jet repulsion pushing against in an empty space? www.youtube.com/watch
mystic
There is more to explaining physics than putting on a nice blue shirt and be good-looking. 🤐 Sorry I can't be more polite in this case.
Pattfm
He is talking about vacuum. You have to see the drone test at the end.
mystic
The drone will not work in vacuum. He is correct. But that is not how propulsion works.
Pattfm
Here on earth we have reactions with the air N, O etc. But in space, its Nothing. You have no opposite reaction. Watch to end. Of course he knows about air resistance.
mystic
The forces included here are: Gravitation against artificial altered induced buoyancy through propelling air under the device. That is how he gets the effect he shows.
Pattfm
So how are the astronauts able to float about in vacuum?
mystic
Through a big mix of forces that balance out. Being gravitation, inertia and centrifugal forces.
Pattfm
Yes I know. But remember that in vacuum there is nothing to displace but only to fill.
mystic
All the physics laws are valid out there. But on the planet down where we live there are many other factors that add up with what happens in space like friction and buoyancy. If you go under water then other issues you will find because buoyancy that is small in air suddenly becomes a very strong force under water. And nobody complains about that. In space buoyancy for example is non existent.
Pattfm
Is the devil not clever in inventing lies? Ok... Lets talk about gravity.
Pattfm
Is gravity density?
mystic
Exodus 20: 16 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
mystic
So the devil does not lie himself, because then he will die. Because the laws of God also are valid for the devil. But the devil will trick you into lying so that you die.
Pattfm
I'm asking you. I did not call you devil.
mystic
The devil is the father of all lies. It is said.
mystic
btw it is gravitation, not gravity. Never understood who invented the coined term that everybody uses.
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mystic
Gravitation is not density in my view of it.
Pattfm
Can gravitational force (force of gravity) be defined in a word?
mystic
If gravitation is indeed a force, and nobody has that answer, then you can define whatever you want. Some like Einstein may tell you that gravitation is some geometric side effect, perceived as a force.
mystic
That is why I told you about the blue shirt. :)
Pattfm
Ok. Explain the stopping of the sun by Josue. If a day became as 2, Don't you think the other bodies would have disconnected from all those magical balances?
mystic
Yes. Jesus, who is God and who is the alpha and the omega, did some tricks with the breaking index of the air and made it happen.
Pattfm
If there was nothing before, then the first day, then the creation of the universe (not multiverse) in 6 days only, then rest.
If the firmament was a division between just the heaven and the earth, why do we talk about earth like a speck of dust.
mystic
One day will become as 2, look at this video I made. Even so this video upsets and make most people angry. Eine erscheinung des Herrn Jesus Christus
Pattfm
What is the blue shirt? God only worked a miracle in the sun. The moon, the stars were not part of it.
Pattfm
If Our Lady of Fatima says that hell is below the earth, and (...) the Bible says that heaven is above the earth not beside, why do we look at a sun beside?
Pattfm
This is what image 2 should look like if they weren't careless:
F M Shyanguya
If it wasn’t a careless fabrication. If 1 is true 2 can’t be and vice-a-versa. Since both are presented as true, they are both fabricated. Additionally, I assert that 1 on its own is a fabrication. Further, I do believe the circumference of the moon can also be estimated in 1 ... draw the conclusions.
F M Shyanguya
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F M Shyanguya
@Pattfm If earth be an NBA standard basketball 9.47 in dia, the moon will be an official ITF tennis ball 2.635 in dia, and the distance between them 24 ft. Any chance to model in blender view of basketball from tennis ball and vice-versa?
Pattfm
If I do, they (NASA supporters) will bring the concept of telecentric cameras which you already disproved by those images you posted (about them saying that image2 is actually how the human eyes would see it).
Pattfm
If you have time, make a post about this: NASA is just another Hollywood industry with a little bit of science tricks. gloria.tv's algorithm is very angry with me.
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Pattfm
They said it's how the human eyes would see it in this paper.
F M Shyanguya
Not even pseudoscience, Masonic science I might add. For those knowledgeable with the society of the impious numerology, the first image in my post taken July 21, 1969 = 7/21/1969 = 9/11 666. Second picture July 16, 2015 = 7/16/2015 = 22 or 11 11.

Bonus: Earth mean orbit velocity, 66,622 mph = 666 22. These figures are arbitrary, just chosen for their numerology significance.
F M Shyanguya
And no mention of telemetric (sic) [telecentric?] when referencing the instrument.
Donna Bethell
There is no conflict. The first photo was taken a few dozen miles above the surface of the moon, so the moon looks huge and the earth looks a quarter million miles away, because it is. The second photo is taken a million miles away from either the earth or the moon, it doesn't say, but at that distance the moon appears much closer to its actual relative size with respect to the earth, about 1/4 …More
There is no conflict. The first photo was taken a few dozen miles above the surface of the moon, so the moon looks huge and the earth looks a quarter million miles away, because it is. The second photo is taken a million miles away from either the earth or the moon, it doesn't say, but at that distance the moon appears much closer to its actual relative size with respect to the earth, about 1/4 the earth's diameter. If you see a full moon and hold your thumb up to cover it, do you conclude that your thumb is bigger than the moon?
Pattfm
This is what an image taken behind the moon should look like if image 1 is the basis.
Pattfm
"a million miles away" from the moon in image 1 = additional "a million miles away" for the earth. The result is a more tiny earth.
F M Shyanguya
Image 2: My take was DSCOVR was a million miles from the earth.

Image 1: Earth to moon distance: 239,000 miles.
F M Shyanguya
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F M Shyanguya
hockeyCEO
this post is so wrong
Pattfm
We have a free 3d software for simulation www.blender.org
⚫Get the presupposed size of the earth, the moon, and their distance apart.
⚫Scale down the values above to be within the field of view of the simulator.
⚫Make sure you are using perspective projection.
⚫Look from the moon... Can you see anything?
⚫Look from behind the moon "a million miles away" (with the same ratio of reduction)... …More
We have a free 3d software for simulation www.blender.org
⚫Get the presupposed size of the earth, the moon, and their distance apart.
⚫Scale down the values above to be within the field of view of the simulator.
⚫Make sure you are using perspective projection.
⚫Look from the moon... Can you see anything?
⚫Look from behind the moon "a million miles away" (with the same ratio of reduction)... Can you see anything?
Pattfm
Activity 1
⚫Imagine a child sitting on a swing.
⚫Rotate the image you see 180°

What do you see?
⚫Now apply some physics.
What do you see?