New low-attendance record on Ash Wednesday. General audience on February 14, 2018More
New low-attendance record on Ash Wednesday.
General audience on February 14, 2018
BrTomFordeOFMCap
Dr Stuart Reiss No offence taken. But as regards the words of Sacramentals just as the Church devises them she can change them. She did not get rid of "Remember,...." but added options, some of which I think are more effective at times (though it all depends on the disposition of the one receiving the sacramental).
As for latin, I have said Mass in latin so I have no objection to it, but when the …More
Dr Stuart Reiss No offence taken. But as regards the words of Sacramentals just as the Church devises them she can change them. She did not get rid of "Remember,...." but added options, some of which I think are more effective at times (though it all depends on the disposition of the one receiving the sacramental).

As for latin, I have said Mass in latin so I have no objection to it, but when the Council spoke about the pre-eminence of latin that applied to the Latin Church not to the Universal Church (an example of the failure of Western, Latin Christians to appreciate the variety within Catholicism?).
BrTomFordeOFMCap
Dr Stuart Reiss I can assure you that I am no liberal. I would advise you that it is not charitable to draw conclusions about another person solely from the few words in a comment box. As for the "universal church would worship in one voice" she alway has but not in one language. She has and continues to use a multitude of languages: Greek, for instance, was used before Latin and is still in use. …More
Dr Stuart Reiss I can assure you that I am no liberal. I would advise you that it is not charitable to draw conclusions about another person solely from the few words in a comment box. As for the "universal church would worship in one voice" she alway has but not in one language. She has and continues to use a multitude of languages: Greek, for instance, was used before Latin and is still in use. Her one voice comes from Her Faith expressed in Charity.

I don't doubt there were disastrous changes brought in after the Council but that does not mean that all the changes were disastrous nor does it canonize everything done before the Council. I prefer words of our Lord in the Sacraments and the sacramentals, providing they are sanctioned by the Church, as they are more traditional than anything else.
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BrTomFordeOFMCap
Dr Stuart Reiss I think you are lumping a lot of disparate things into one whole. The words of the Gospel are always relevant and 'Repent, and believe in the Gospel' is the central message of Lent. Would you be happier if it was said in Latin? It is the Church supported by the Holy Spirit, through her pastors, which decides how her rites are to be conducted not individuals.
BrTomFordeOFMCap
Dr Stuart Reiss Since when are the very words of our Lord "Catholic lite" (Mark 1.15)?
Tesa
It is noticeable that there is no mention of Ash Wednesday and the start of Lent in the secular media. For Ramadan they all talk about the Muslims fasting (during the day).