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Cardinal Müller: Francis Is "No Heretic" - He Is "Orthodox”

Cardinal Gerhard Müller has repeated his implausible theory according to which Pope Francis is a victim of those he keeps surrounding himself with.

Müller told the anti-Catholic fake-news magazine Spiegel (February 15) that Pope Francis allows himself to be “dependent” upon his counselors who have “base motives”. Müller did not say which counselors he means.

According to Müller, Francis “is surrounded” by people who “have little understanding of theology”. The cardinal calls them “courtiers”. Francis' closest collaborator is Cardinal Parolin.

Asked whether Francis is a heretic, Müller replied, “No. This Pope is orthodox.”

Picture: Gerhard Ludwig Müller, © Mazur/catholicnews.org.uk, CC BY-SA, #newsWmxauxhqiz
alex j
With in a day or two of his manifesto Cdl. Muller is back to defending the indefensible. When the time comes to 'stand by Our Blessed Lord' will he be amongst the few that CHRIST finds when he returns???
Eric M
Cardinal Muller is a complete moron.
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Lalanz
Demons love to curse God and the appointed ones of his church. You need to confess this brother....not good look to call a cardinal a moron....
Dr Bobus
It is said about people who manage organizations that they reveal themselves in the assistants they name.
pgmgn
Yes, as true policy is communicated by hires and fires.
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CatMuse
You have to de declared a heretic and Francis has yet to be. So he is correct in that statement is he not? As regard which Pope he is referring to when he says "this pope is orthodox" I'm unclear. He could have been pointing at a picture of Pius X on the wall when he said that. He did not say "Pope Francis is orthodox". I think Cardinal Muller knows quite well that Francis is off message on …More
You have to de declared a heretic and Francis has yet to be. So he is correct in that statement is he not? As regard which Pope he is referring to when he says "this pope is orthodox" I'm unclear. He could have been pointing at a picture of Pius X on the wall when he said that. He did not say "Pope Francis is orthodox". I think Cardinal Muller knows quite well that Francis is off message on central tenets of the Faith. I'm sure when this mess shakes out we'll see more clearly what is going on.
JTLiuzza
Sure. That's what it was. He was probably pointing at a picture of St. Pius X.

If Bergoglio is orthodox, I'm Napoleon Bonaparte. The extent to which people will contort reality to make excuses for this guy is mind boggling.
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CatMuse
The reality is that people are not giving straight answers that make clear use of subjects, objects and adjectives. So I assume that the situation does not permit them to speak directly for some reason that I don't know. I don't believe that contorts reality. The reality is there is a lack of clarity in what Cardinal Muller has said so I'm not sure to whom he is referring. The reality is that …More
The reality is that people are not giving straight answers that make clear use of subjects, objects and adjectives. So I assume that the situation does not permit them to speak directly for some reason that I don't know. I don't believe that contorts reality. The reality is there is a lack of clarity in what Cardinal Muller has said so I'm not sure to whom he is referring. The reality is that Francis has not been declared a heretic and therefore no one can label him so. The reality is that Francis does surround himself with very questionable people who know very little about God. Yes I'm happy to defend Cardinal Muller on the basis that he has made a clear and unambiguous public act of Faith that shows he is a brother in Christ. Charity is therefore demanded that requires one to assess what he says in the best light trusting that he knows what he needs to say and do in the circumstances.
JTLiuzza
Candy coating reality is not charity. You put your own soul in jeopardy with legalisms and nuance. I don't need anybody wearing a cassock to tell me that unrepentant adulterers receiving Communion (Amoris Laetitia) is heretical. It is indeed heretical even if the "princes" of the Church don't have the stones to declare it so. On the day of judgment you won't get a pass for going along with …More
Candy coating reality is not charity. You put your own soul in jeopardy with legalisms and nuance. I don't need anybody wearing a cassock to tell me that unrepentant adulterers receiving Communion (Amoris Laetitia) is heretical. It is indeed heretical even if the "princes" of the Church don't have the stones to declare it so. On the day of judgment you won't get a pass for going along with everything Bergoglio says because nobody in the hierarchy officially declared him a heretic. Or worse, that some German (who else) declared him "orthodox." Of course maybe he was pointing at a picture of St. Pius X.

Letting you know all of that, plainly and unequivocally without legalisms and nuance? THAT is genuine charity.
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Preach it, JT! Preach it!
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aderito
What ever he is he should stand up for Truth ,his soul and the soul of others
He is being blackmailed or dual personality disorder
No, he's a communist and communists always lie. The truth is what's usefull for the revolution, according to them. See the photos @Gesù è con noi put below.
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That's why I said that I did not trust that apostate who disguises himself as a sheep (catholic).
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He isn't to be trusted, he is a communist and communist always lie, even when they ptetend to be orthodox. We have a saying: "I don't believe him, even the Pater Noster"...
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What is wrong with him? He just wrote a manifesto after what Francis said during his mohammads visit.
CatMuse
Maybe he is Orthodox. Obviously Francis does not accept papal infallibility nor papal authority if he is pushing a synodal idea. That would make him like the eastern orthodox wouldn't it? Although I don't know how a pope could be in schism ... unless.... :-).
Maybe he was given a “talk”!?!
It’s so convoluted anymore, it’s ridiculous.
Where are the real Catholic men!?! Pathetic.
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LO'Brien
Which pope is this now?
Self-deception? General denial? Simple dishonesty?
He knows how to work the board. While utterly disgusting, he has to survive in order to have a voice.
This is the level to which we have be debased. Is there no relief.