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Burke: “We act, as if we are creating the Church out of nothing.”

On November 4th Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke presented in Vienna the German edition of the book “Remaining in the Truth of Christ” that collects articles of five Cardinals. The gathering was organised by “Una Voce Austria”.

A video recording of the presentation: Burke: “one of the saddest documents" ever

In his presentation Cardinal Burke explained, that the book is a response to the idea of Cardinal Walter Kasper, who has “argued in favour of a change in what has been the constant teaching and practise of the Church” concerning marriage. Kasper has – so Burke - asked for dialogue and the five cardinals answered by presenting credible studies.

At the Synod on the Family Cardinal Burke saw “the almost seaming forgetfulness of the Magisterium”: “It was as if the Church was for the first time addressing the question of marriage and teaching about it, whereas the Church has both in her doctrine and in her discipline one of the richest appreciations of marriage you will find.” The cardinal mentioned “Familiaris consortio” of John Paul II., “Humanae vitae” of Pope Paul VI. and “Casti cannubii”, of Pope Pius XI.

Burke reminded his audience, that the Church has 2000 years old tradition: “Today we act, as if we are creating the church out of nothing.”

The mid-term report of the Synod was for Burke “one of the saddest documents that I could imagine ever coming from the Church”: “Many of us were horrified with this idea that was presented in the report, that there could somehow be good elements in mortally sinful acts. This is impossible.”

Furthermore Cardinal Burke criticised a breakup between doctrine and discipline: “One of the most insidious ideas in the presentation of Cardinal Kasper and the discussions of the Synod is that: ‘Yes we uphold the doctrine of the Church with regard of the indissolubility of marriage.’ Even saying: ‘Who would question the doctrine of the indissolubility of marriage? We are talking about a matter of discipline.’ In other words: Marriage is indissoluble, we believe this. But in certain cases, where a person is married before God, but that marriage has in some way or another failed (without any comment about whose fault it is), but that person has knowingly and willingly attempted to another marriage and his living with someone who is not his or her husband and wife. In some of those cases we don’t uphold the indissolubility of marriage. We admit persons to the sacrament of confession and to holy communion.’”

This idea – Cardinal Burke pointed out – “must be a denial of the indissolubility of marriage”: “When one goes to confession for example and confesses a sin, one has a firm purpose of amendment or otherwise you can’t validly confess. How can a person, who is living in an adulterous union confess that - when he or she has the intention of remaining in that situation? These are simple facts.”

The Cardinal made his point very clear: “The Church's discipline can never be other than true to her doctrine.”

“Any kind of discussion, which attempts to say, that the Church can uphold her teaching on marriage and the indissolubility of marriage and at the same time in her practice deny that truth – that simply is not catholic, that won’t go. It is not acceptable.”

Cardinal Burke than mentioned “one of the big refrains” at the Synod: “The culture has changed so radically that we simply cannot teach as we have in the past.” But this is, so Cardinal Burke, “the loss of hope and faith in Jesus Christ”.

As priest and bishop Burke has according to his own words met many couples, who are living the truth about marriage counterculturally in a very secularised society: “But this is completely forgotten. Yes, the culture is very corrupted. None denies that. But we don’t go running after it. We bring to the culture, what could save it.”

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Ranger01
Thanks, Cdn Burke, for being a stand-up guy.
Josefine
"Behold, the hand of the Lord is not too short, that he could not help, and his ears have become not hard, that he couldn't hear;
but your vices divorce you and your God, and your sins hide the face from you, that you are not heared.
For your hands are stained with blood and your fingers with vice; your lips speak wrong, your tongue seals wrong;
There is no one who preaches justice or faithfully directed.
It relies on the vain and talks nothing efficient; with misfortune they are pregnant and … [More]
plato24
“The culture has changed so radically that we simply cannot teach as we have in the past.”
They are right about THAT because they have NOT been teaching the faith. That is why people do not know their faith. All you need to do is actually TEACH the faith! I would not my faith if I had not done it on my own later in life. I was once one of the 'liberals' as far as my faith was concerned because I did not know any better.... I was trained by LCWR types! I did not even realize that I did not know … [More]
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cristian d amico
Thanks, Cardinal Burke. You are togheter with other cardinals the last katechon. I am with you.
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inve_1
God bless, Cardinal Burke. May his voice continue to be heard.
movwater
It would seem that Cardinal Kasper fancies himself to be the new Martin Luther!
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Note Noticias en Español made a reference: Burke: “Actuamos como si estamos creando la Iglesia de la nada.”.
VRS
Link do dyskusji / link to the discussion in Vienna:
archive.org/details/CardinalBurkePa…
JoeThePimpernel
Kasper should form his own church.

That way he can do anything he wants.
IowaMike
Unfortunately Cardinal Burke is being, in my humble opinion, purged because of his love for orthodoxy and compliance to Church doctrine and infallible Tradition. He is a fantastic Cardinal who I pray for every day. It's too bad he isn't leading the Church.
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michaelseraphim
Thank God for Burke. Here are some thoughts about this interview.
consolamini.org/…/burke-it-was-as…
VRS
"(...) Burke przypomniał słuchaczom, że Kościół ma 2000-letnią tradycję: "dziś działamy, jakbyśmy tworzyli Kościół z niczego". Raport z półmetka Synodu był dla Burke'a "jednym z najsmutniejszych dokumentów pochodzących z Kościoła jakie mógłby sobie wyobrazić": "Wielu z nas była przerażona koncepcją przedstawioną w sprawozdaniu, że mogą w jakiejś formie występować dobre elementy w czynach stanowiących grzechy śmiertelne. To jest niemożliwe. (...)"
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piusx-101
Cardinal Burke is truly a servant of God. But he spoke incorrectly when he said "Today we act, as if we are creating the church out of nothing." No faithful Catholic acts as if he is creating the church out of nothing. Cardinal Burke should have said "The modernists and liberals act as if they are creating the church out of nothing." He should place the blame where the blame deserves to be placed. Words and phrases matter.
rhemes1582
God Bless Cardinal Burke!

May he be an inspiration and a role model, for other Cardinals , Bishops , Priests, Nuns, and Lay Catholic.

Lets get back to serving Truth.
Let us Remember St. Paul`s words to the Galatians chapter 1 6-10

[6] I wonder that you are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ, unto another gospel. [7] Which is not another, only there are some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. [8] But though we, or an angel from heaven, … [More]
Chinedu
May God bless and keep people like cardinal Burke.