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Francis Without Mask: Will Admission to Old Rite Institutes Be Suspended?

Ultraviolet is ALL about false analogies and so-called victory dances that make use of pop culture concepts. It's a way to keep the blind from opening their eyes and looking at the facts as they are.

What Ultra fails to see is his/her own 'split' with reality in adopting the falsehood that the pope creates the truth. But maybe that fantasy makes him/her feel safe at night when homework is left …More
Ultraviolet is ALL about false analogies and so-called victory dances that make use of pop culture concepts. It's a way to keep the blind from opening their eyes and looking at the facts as they are.

What Ultra fails to see is his/her own 'split' with reality in adopting the falsehood that the pope creates the truth. But maybe that fantasy makes him/her feel safe at night when homework is left undone. <shrug>
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Francis Without Mask: Will Admission to Old Rite Institutes Be Suspended?

"...admissions to our seminaries and novitiates will be suspended."

If you're unwilling to concelebrate, expect this. Own the reality of the conflict presented by the FSSP's previous eagerness to compromise.

If you chose to do so again, so be it. If you choose to refrain from concelebration so be it. But adopt a POSITION if only to help the faithful get over the tennis match that's making a …More
"...admissions to our seminaries and novitiates will be suspended."

If you're unwilling to concelebrate, expect this. Own the reality of the conflict presented by the FSSP's previous eagerness to compromise.

If you chose to do so again, so be it. If you choose to refrain from concelebration so be it. But adopt a POSITION if only to help the faithful get over the tennis match that's making a good many just walk away.
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Motu Proprio Abolishing Summorum Pontificum WORSE than expected

JPII can "say" all he likes that a certain action will be viewed as schism. But not even the Holy Father can create out of nothing. That's reserved to God alone unless you're convinced that JPII could turn water into wine or call wine into an empty goblet on his own steam.

Cool fantasy, Bro, that would be you hugging up to rainbow unicorns and your own disconnect with reality. And THIS, whatever…More
JPII can "say" all he likes that a certain action will be viewed as schism. But not even the Holy Father can create out of nothing. That's reserved to God alone unless you're convinced that JPII could turn water into wine or call wine into an empty goblet on his own steam.

Cool fantasy, Bro, that would be you hugging up to rainbow unicorns and your own disconnect with reality. And THIS, whatever this is, seems to be where the rubber is meeting the road for the FSSP regardless of "sympathetic" bishops.

Point is, your emotional state, Ultraviolet, or fearing schism doesn't create schism. But JP II was absolutely correct in that +Lefebvre's actions would be 'viewed' as schismatic. Why? Because nutters like yourself refuse to use a dictionary and prefer to invent My Little Pony spinoffs in your mom's basement.

Fact: Rome promised the FSSP a bishop, their own bishop, which never came. It was a false promise intended to placate those like yourself who, thumb stuck in mouth, were convinced that doing nothing was the only way to fly.

At least the charade of false sympathy is out the door now. About time.
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Vatican’s Declaration of War: Old Rite Superiors Meet to Discuss Situation

Says Ultraviolet who parses canon law like he's at a suspect sushi buffet :P
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Vatican’s Declaration of War: Old Rite Superiors Meet to Discuss Situation

...precisely SO, Ultraviolet. And your point?

I never trusted what the FSSP was saying because they believed Rome that promised them a bishop that everyone knew would never come. LoL
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Bad Joke: ALL (!) Popes of the Decadent Council Church Canonised

Canonized -- FOR WHAT??? PR?

Much like American politicos, it seems the hierarchy is bent on blackening their own noses for the cause so they can better "shame" those who actually believe in the Faith and/or this country.

Disgusting, obvious, pandering, filth.
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Vatican’s Declaration of War: Old Rite Superiors Meet to Discuss Situation

So sorry, but I cannot take the word of anyone at the present time that says that these groups aren't being 'called' to the Vatican.

The FSSP is the same group that led the flock to believe they would never concelebrate.
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Motu Proprio Abolishing Summorum Pontificum WORSE than expected

Division is precisely what he wants. To draw a line so he can vet who thinks what and then corral and extinguish at will.

Isn't it highly clerical of him to have behaved in such fashion???
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Motu Proprio Abolishing Summorum Pontificum WORSE than expected

So basically, the diocesan TLM people who have been lied to so they wouldn't look at the SSPX for what it is--Catholic and currently holding an irregular canonical status within the Church--are finally receiving the fruits of said deception.

Irregularity is not schism.

Irregularity is what we're experiencing because those who hold Rome hostage have given entree to the world. This is why +Lefebv…More
So basically, the diocesan TLM people who have been lied to so they wouldn't look at the SSPX for what it is--Catholic and currently holding an irregular canonical status within the Church--are finally receiving the fruits of said deception.

Irregularity is not schism.

Irregularity is what we're experiencing because those who hold Rome hostage have given entree to the world. This is why +Lefebvfe knew he'd need bishops. And THIS is precisely why Rome never gave the FSSP the bishop that was promised to them.

The oft perpetuated excuse that the FSSP didn't really need their own bishop because they were small or fill-in-the-blank was precisely that. An excuse. With corral the sheep and extinguish them TLM at the end of the line.

Welcome to reality.
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Francis Has Just Presented His “Final Solution” For Catholics

“No one imagined that his Motu Proprio could contain so much viciousness and so much hatred.”

No one could 'imagine' because they had willingly blindfolded themselves and plugged their ears in order to put false words of love and kindness in the mouth of one whose actions have been the exact opposite. And for a very long time.

Imagine the above statement being said of someone who turns killer …More
“No one imagined that his Motu Proprio could contain so much viciousness and so much hatred.”

No one could 'imagine' because they had willingly blindfolded themselves and plugged their ears in order to put false words of love and kindness in the mouth of one whose actions have been the exact opposite. And for a very long time.

Imagine the above statement being said of someone who turns killer after a childhood spent dismembering animals. Seriously.

Let's cut the positive-thinking talk and talk about the reality on the ground and what people have action done and failed to do. For the love of God, please.
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Mercy in Action: Cardinal Burke Criticises Francis' HARSHENSS

"Cardinal Raymond Burke detected a number of flaws in Francis’ Motu Proprio Traditionis Custodes (NCRegister.com, July 16)"

And, in the tradition of Cardinal Raymond Burke, what will he DO? Talk and little else while continuing to calumniate others as schismatics. (Revisit VII documents, your Excellency. Follow the bouncing ball and ask yourself where it came from and where it's intended to go.) …More
"Cardinal Raymond Burke detected a number of flaws in Francis’ Motu Proprio Traditionis Custodes (NCRegister.com, July 16)"

And, in the tradition of Cardinal Raymond Burke, what will he DO? Talk and little else while continuing to calumniate others as schismatics. (Revisit VII documents, your Excellency. Follow the bouncing ball and ask yourself where it came from and where it's intended to go.)

I do so want to have respect for these individuals, but those like +Burke who have ridden the fence SO long while throwing stones and slurs makes it near impossible.

Thanks.... no thanks.
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Liberal Rigorism: PiusX Not Part Of The Church - Cardinal Burke

OMG. Here you go again citing legalities in lieu of the fullness of the truth. Do you think Our Lord is fooled by legalities? If so, He would have wholly endorsed the Pharisees in their adherence to the letter without the spirit. (In the case of Burke and the SSPX, Burke ignores the whole letter, too, and context, and spirit. That makes others rightfully wonder at what spirit moves Burke... and …More
OMG. Here you go again citing legalities in lieu of the fullness of the truth. Do you think Our Lord is fooled by legalities? If so, He would have wholly endorsed the Pharisees in their adherence to the letter without the spirit. (In the case of Burke and the SSPX, Burke ignores the whole letter, too, and context, and spirit. That makes others rightfully wonder at what spirit moves Burke... and you, too. Laziness?)

Now Ultraviolet... show where 'full communion' is a traditional term or explain how it was invented to explain the inexplicable. Come on. Go for it.

None of your farcical foundations of picking-and-choosing canon law to suit your desperation to do nothing backs you up.

Do you grasp CCC 675? Maybe you should study that and ask yourself if you'll follow the 'religious' solution that demands apostasy from the Truth.

Get out of the fog induced by lolling on the couch ALL day.
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Liberal Rigorism: PiusX Not Part Of The Church - Cardinal Burke

Fist, I'm not your chum.

Second, fake quotes are your canard.

Burke has painted himself into an ineffectual corner by courting the letter without spirit and or entire context in his attempt to cast others as schismatic. That charge is simply false and has been proven so.

Your devolution into backsides, etc, demonstrates the inferior level of your argumentation. Are you also a fan of Martin …More
Fist, I'm not your chum.

Second, fake quotes are your canard.

Burke has painted himself into an ineffectual corner by courting the letter without spirit and or entire context in his attempt to cast others as schismatic. That charge is simply false and has been proven so.

Your devolution into backsides, etc, demonstrates the inferior level of your argumentation. Are you also a fan of Martin Luther's Table Talks?? Maybe so. Fanboy/fangirl perfectly describes your unwillingness to tease through the truth of matters instead of grasping on to outward trappings to make you feel better about doing NOTHING. (If that's the road you're called to, nothing, then own it. Others have been called to act. So why not appreciate the situation instead of being a paid heckler or is that a paid lemming.)

scribd.com/document/3984779/Meuli-Letter-Re-Sspx
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Liberal Rigorism: PiusX Not Part Of The Church - Cardinal Burke

You're adorable. Burke is declaring schism where none exists and attempting to speak against what is demonstrably true. BURKE incites schism in this fashion and, in a way, attempts to elevate himself to a position he has yet to receive.

The Pope has said the SSPX are Catholic because they are. Your refusal to humbly submit to the truth and give off your own pride and need to marginalize others …More
You're adorable. Burke is declaring schism where none exists and attempting to speak against what is demonstrably true. BURKE incites schism in this fashion and, in a way, attempts to elevate himself to a position he has yet to receive.

The Pope has said the SSPX are Catholic because they are. Your refusal to humbly submit to the truth and give off your own pride and need to marginalize others reveals your own schismatic attitude.

Same goes for Burke. Maybe he should take the log out of his own eye first. Although, CM is making quite a time of selling LOGS to those who believe they're the height of fashion.
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Liberal Rigorism: PiusX Not Part Of The Church - Cardinal Burke

You're just sayin' a heap of Devil's Advocate nonsense, ultra violet. Why? That's the question. Whose water are you carrying?
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Liberal Rigorism: PiusX Not Part Of The Church - Cardinal Burke

And schism isn't schism until it's formally declared with evidence outside what Burke says out the side of his mouth while being wholly disobedient himself.
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Liberal Rigorism: PiusX Not Part Of The Church - Cardinal Burke

There you go again, Ultraviolet, apparently looking to Burke and CM to do your homework and tell you what truth is while they parse the truth and take it out of context. You're a kept creature. Kept in the dark and pumped full of superiority to make you "feel" great about yourself. Such a waste.

Your need to bold comments demonstrates your desperation to be right. To cover your emasculated self …More
There you go again, Ultraviolet, apparently looking to Burke and CM to do your homework and tell you what truth is while they parse the truth and take it out of context. You're a kept creature. Kept in the dark and pumped full of superiority to make you "feel" great about yourself. Such a waste.

Your need to bold comments demonstrates your desperation to be right. To cover your emasculated self with a shroud of superiority and virtue. That's kind of what Burke and Voris do on a regular basis.

Sorry, JPII's using the term 'schismatic act' is not a declaration of schism. One must put the 'act' in context to make a proper judgment and determination. JPII refused to do that because proper context would have revealed the utter disaster of VII ambiguity balloons.

The failure of JPII to act in declaring a formal schism and subsequently following up with the actions that would put the Society on par with actual schismatics is also telling. So in your eager pursuit of purity, watch out. Voris and Burke are making themselves a soft-pedal pope by overreaching our current pontiff to bamboozle you into a "trad" corner. Yet you are visibly deceived and EASILY so.

"Don't wave the word "Canon Law" around here to justify your claims unless you're citing it by number. Friendly warning... If you try arguing that particular subject with me, I will gut you like a trout.. ;-)"

Friendly warning, you're the trout, flopping on the ground to be collected, gutted, and fried. You're just to high on your own gills to know it.

scribd.com/document/3984779/Meuli-Letter-Re-Sspx
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Liberal Rigorism: PiusX Not Part Of The Church - Cardinal Burke

You're hilarious, Ultraviolet. No wonder you're sucking up to a religious figure who will absolve you for doing NOTHING and pretending that those who may do something are bad. (Be a darling and don't grouse at who eschew emasculation in lieu of action. But keep laughing at the requisite jokes you need to keep the truth about your own lack from getting to you.)
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Liberal Rigorism: PiusX Not Part Of The Church - Cardinal Burke

Burke is attempting to cast his own 'schismatic' attitude onto others. The SSPX is his convenient scapegoat. For if Burke were 'faithful and obedient' wouldn't he let the Holy Father determine the status of the SSPX in accordance with the whole of canon law?

But instead Burke self-styles as the traditional man while objectively undermining authority and placing the papal tiara on himself with …More
Burke is attempting to cast his own 'schismatic' attitude onto others. The SSPX is his convenient scapegoat. For if Burke were 'faithful and obedient' wouldn't he let the Holy Father determine the status of the SSPX in accordance with the whole of canon law?

But instead Burke self-styles as the traditional man while objectively undermining authority and placing the papal tiara on himself with the help of sycophantic podcasters desperate for a virtue signal.
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Liberal Rigorism: PiusX Not Part Of The Church - Cardinal Burke

...Burke is given the time of day by those who like to point fingers at those who DO instead of sit around grousing while doing nothing. (Meanwhile, like cowards welcoming cover from a Seal Team, they grouse about 'orders' while staying alive thanks to the risks taken by others. It's SO effeminate and beyond nauseating.)