"Overcome Beliefs That Hold Back" - Francis Hammers on the Table
During a Saturday address to representatives of the Roman Diocese, Francis de facto said that a two-year "synodal process" which leads to a 2023 synod is not about "gathering opinions" but about imposing …More
During a Saturday address to representatives of the Roman Diocese, Francis de facto said that a two-year "synodal process" which leads to a 2023 synod is not about "gathering opinions" but about imposing them - in Francis' jargon: about “listening to what the Spirit wants for the Church” and about "being open to the God [= Francis] "of surprises.”
Stuck in his mantras, Francis called again for “preparing to be surprised and prepare for surprises.” Francis' conformist "surprises" are very predictable.
In order to give emphasis to his verbiage he banged several times on the table shouting that "it may be necessary to leave, to change direction, to overcome beliefs that hold back and prevent us from moving and walking together” - as if this had not been done for decades with the well-known results.
Francis admitted that his 40 minute speech was “very long” but went on with endless blunder phrases like “dynamism of mutual listening.”
An acclaimed promoter of perversions, Francis used a red …More
Stuck in his mantras, Francis called again for “preparing to be surprised and prepare for surprises.” Francis' conformist "surprises" are very predictable.
In order to give emphasis to his verbiage he banged several times on the table shouting that "it may be necessary to leave, to change direction, to overcome beliefs that hold back and prevent us from moving and walking together” - as if this had not been done for decades with the well-known results.
Francis admitted that his 40 minute speech was “very long” but went on with endless blunder phrases like “dynamism of mutual listening.”
An acclaimed promoter of perversions, Francis used a red …More
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Keep sayin' stuff like dat and you gonna get banned. @Angelici Ordinis Go read The Official GTV Announcement. smart money says, edit your comment, too.
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Talking to yourself now?
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I don't care if I get banned. Strike me down, and I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine. Go tell your Opus Dei handlers who work for Langley they should look to the day of their judgments. It will not go well for them.
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Nope, I was talking to you, dummy. See? that's what the @Angelici Ordinis is for. Protip: I'm not a mod and you're not Obi-Wan Kenobi. Still, it's nice to find a Star Wars nerd on GTV. Fact Check: for all of Obi-Wan's chest-thumping, it never happened. All he did after Vader took him down was appear as ghost to Luke. "Go to the Dagobah system…" and then when Luke got there, "All the lies I …More
Nope, I was talking to you, dummy. See? that's what the @Angelici Ordinis is for. Protip: I'm not a mod and you're not Obi-Wan Kenobi. Still, it's nice to find a Star Wars nerd on GTV. Fact Check: for all of Obi-Wan's chest-thumping, it never happened. All he did after Vader took him down was appear as ghost to Luke. "Go to the Dagobah system…" and then when Luke got there, "All the lies I told you were true from a certain point of view". That's it.
When Luke was getting crispy-fried by the Emperor, remember how much help he got from Big Mouth Kenobi. Obi-Wan became as "powerful" as Casper and Boo-Berry.
This cracked me up, though. "your Opus Dei handlers…" Maaaan… why does every nit-wit around here always assume I'm working for their pet bogey-man? The spammers say I'm a mod working for GTV. The Jew-haters say I'm Mossad working for the JIDF. The Benedict-Buddies insist I'm working for the Vatican, and now you. God give me patience. :P
When Luke was getting crispy-fried by the Emperor, remember how much help he got from Big Mouth Kenobi. Obi-Wan became as "powerful" as Casper and Boo-Berry.
This cracked me up, though. "your Opus Dei handlers…" Maaaan… why does every nit-wit around here always assume I'm working for their pet bogey-man? The spammers say I'm a mod working for GTV. The Jew-haters say I'm Mossad working for the JIDF. The Benedict-Buddies insist I'm working for the Vatican, and now you. God give me patience. :P
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This man is no pope.
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it would seem so, after everything he says is filtered through the Internet and the interpretation of all the talking heads. But in reality, he’s just being slandered.
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Are you kidding? We know exactly what he wants: the annihilation of Europe and the legalization of child sex slavery. The Greek Orthodox already correctly identified him as an ally of the ancient enemy of Christianity: The Ottoman Turks and their cultural allies across Asia Minor and North Africa.
Opus Dei handlers who work for Langley they should look to the day of their judgments.//
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Opus Dei handlers who work for Langley they should look to the day of their judgments.//
May I ask you meaning ?
Stalin is in Hell.
May I ask you meaning ?
Stalin is in Hell.
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He is arguing we redefine truth and rewrite morality?
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Actually he already did that in Amoris Laetitia. He's an official and formal schismatic now.
In this address, Francis declared:
-"listen to what the Spirit says to the churches"
-"Synodal Church means Church sacrament of this promise - that is, that the Spirit will be with us - which is manifested by cultivating intimacy with the Spirit and with the world to come.
-"the Spirit will lead you, trust the Spirit"
-"let the Spirit speak to us”
vatican.va/…ptember/documents/20210918-fedeli-…More
In this address, Francis declared:
-"listen to what the Spirit says to the churches"
-"Synodal Church means Church sacrament of this promise - that is, that the Spirit will be with us - which is manifested by cultivating intimacy with the Spirit and with the world to come.
-"the Spirit will lead you, trust the Spirit"
-"let the Spirit speak to us”
vatican.va/…ptember/documents/20210918-fedeli-diocesiroma.html
Fortuitously, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger already explained to which "spirit" he was most likely referring...
Continuing his diagnosis, he [Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger] recalls that this "true" Council, "already during its sessions and then increasingly in the subsequent period, was opposed by a self-styled ‘spirit of the Council’, which in reality is a true ‘anti-spirit’ of the Council. According to this pernicious anti-spirit [Konzils-Ungeist in German], everything that is ‘new’ (or presumed such: how many old heresies have surfaced again in recent years that have been presented as something new!) is always and in every case better than what has been or what is. It is the anti-spirit according to which the history of the Church would first begin with Vatican II, viewed as a kind of point zero." - The Ratzinger Report: an exclusive interview on the state of the Church (Rapporto Sulla Fede), 1985, by Vittorio Messori, p. 34-35
The following excerpt taken from an address given by Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, given in Santiago to the Chilean bishops on 13 July 1988 (the very anniversary of the Third Secret of Fatima)
"The Second Vatican Council has not been treated as a part of the entire living Tradition of the Church, but as an end of Tradition, a new start from zero. The truth is that this particular Council defined no dogma at all, and deliberately chose to remain on a modest level, as a merely pastoral council; and yet many treat it as though it had made itself into a sort of “super-dogma” which takes away the importance of all the rest."
"This idea is made stronger by things that are now happening. That which previously was considered most holy—the form in which the liturgy was handed down—suddenly appears as the most forbidden of all things, the one thing that can safely be prohibited. It is intolerable to criticize decisions which have been taken since the Council; on the other hand, if men make question of ancient rules, or even of the great truths of the Faith—for instance, the corporal virginity of Mary, the bodily resurrection of Jesus, the immortality of the soul, etc.—nobody complains or only does so with the greatest moderation. I myself, when I was a professor, have seen how the very same bishop who, before the Council, had fired a teacher who was really irreproachable, for a certain crudeness of speech, was not prepared, after the Council, to dismiss a professor who openly denied certain fundamental truths of the Faith."
"All this leads a great number of people to ask themselves if the Church of today is really the same as that of yesterday, or if they have changed it for something else without telling people. The one way in which Vatican II can be made plausible is to present it as it is; one part of the unbroken, the unique Tradition of the Church and of her faith."
- The Wanderer, The Wanderer Printing Company, 22 June 2000
-"listen to what the Spirit says to the churches"
-"Synodal Church means Church sacrament of this promise - that is, that the Spirit will be with us - which is manifested by cultivating intimacy with the Spirit and with the world to come.
-"the Spirit will lead you, trust the Spirit"
-"let the Spirit speak to us”
vatican.va/…ptember/documents/20210918-fedeli-diocesiroma.html
Fortuitously, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger already explained to which "spirit" he was most likely referring...
Continuing his diagnosis, he [Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger] recalls that this "true" Council, "already during its sessions and then increasingly in the subsequent period, was opposed by a self-styled ‘spirit of the Council’, which in reality is a true ‘anti-spirit’ of the Council. According to this pernicious anti-spirit [Konzils-Ungeist in German], everything that is ‘new’ (or presumed such: how many old heresies have surfaced again in recent years that have been presented as something new!) is always and in every case better than what has been or what is. It is the anti-spirit according to which the history of the Church would first begin with Vatican II, viewed as a kind of point zero." - The Ratzinger Report: an exclusive interview on the state of the Church (Rapporto Sulla Fede), 1985, by Vittorio Messori, p. 34-35
The following excerpt taken from an address given by Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, given in Santiago to the Chilean bishops on 13 July 1988 (the very anniversary of the Third Secret of Fatima)
"The Second Vatican Council has not been treated as a part of the entire living Tradition of the Church, but as an end of Tradition, a new start from zero. The truth is that this particular Council defined no dogma at all, and deliberately chose to remain on a modest level, as a merely pastoral council; and yet many treat it as though it had made itself into a sort of “super-dogma” which takes away the importance of all the rest."
"This idea is made stronger by things that are now happening. That which previously was considered most holy—the form in which the liturgy was handed down—suddenly appears as the most forbidden of all things, the one thing that can safely be prohibited. It is intolerable to criticize decisions which have been taken since the Council; on the other hand, if men make question of ancient rules, or even of the great truths of the Faith—for instance, the corporal virginity of Mary, the bodily resurrection of Jesus, the immortality of the soul, etc.—nobody complains or only does so with the greatest moderation. I myself, when I was a professor, have seen how the very same bishop who, before the Council, had fired a teacher who was really irreproachable, for a certain crudeness of speech, was not prepared, after the Council, to dismiss a professor who openly denied certain fundamental truths of the Faith."
"All this leads a great number of people to ask themselves if the Church of today is really the same as that of yesterday, or if they have changed it for something else without telling people. The one way in which Vatican II can be made plausible is to present it as it is; one part of the unbroken, the unique Tradition of the Church and of her faith."
- The Wanderer, The Wanderer Printing Company, 22 June 2000
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I just realized where Pope Francis gets all this "spirit". :D He was ordained in Dec. 1969 the same month Norman Greenbaum released his legendary Christian-folk single. Francis was a newly ordained priest and Greenbaum's hit was on the radio non-stop. It was one of the biggest hists of 1970. selling two million copies in 1970, and staying in Billboard Magazine's Top 100 for months. It was also …More
I just realized where Pope Francis gets all this "spirit". :D He was ordained in Dec. 1969 the same month Norman Greenbaum released his legendary Christian-folk single. Francis was a newly ordained priest and Greenbaum's hit was on the radio non-stop. It was one of the biggest hists of 1970. selling two million copies in 1970, and staying in Billboard Magazine's Top 100 for months. It was also a hit #1 on the UK charts.
That isn't a coincidence. Dr. UV McGillicuddy has made "an historic" discovery into the theological roots of El Fancesco's Papacy! You heard it here first! Buy my new book on Amazon and "like" all my non-stop shill posts on GTV! :D
That isn't a coincidence. Dr. UV McGillicuddy has made "an historic" discovery into the theological roots of El Fancesco's Papacy! You heard it here first! Buy my new book on Amazon and "like" all my non-stop shill posts on GTV! :D
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"“listening to what the Spirit wants for the Church” -Ah but which spirit? :P Then there's the learned citation from his heavily underlined copy of The Catechism of the Alzheimer's Church
(CAC 666) Rigidty is "a sin against God's patience" and "against this sovereignty of God".
Rigidity is neither.
Rigidity to the teachings and laws of the Catholic Church is strength, not a sin. Francis, the …More
"“listening to what the Spirit wants for the Church” -Ah but which spirit? :P Then there's the learned citation from his heavily underlined copy of The Catechism of the Alzheimer's Church
(CAC 666) Rigidty is "a sin against God's patience" and "against this sovereignty of God".
Rigidity is neither.
Rigidity to the teachings and laws of the Catholic Church is strength, not a sin. Francis, the ever flexible, bends far too easy to the pressures of the secular world and modernism.
(CAC 666) Rigidty is "a sin against God's patience" and "against this sovereignty of God".
Rigidity is neither.
Rigidity to the teachings and laws of the Catholic Church is strength, not a sin. Francis, the ever flexible, bends far too easy to the pressures of the secular world and modernism.
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10 out of 10
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@Ultraviolet @chris griffin Yes exactly! Well said! I've noticed on many occasions that there is a tendency amongst the post Vatican II Upper Hierarchy to refer to an Inspirer - whom they call simply "The Spirit", yet they have not convinced us that it is actually the "HOLY Spirit " the third Person of the Holy Trinity, He who laid down the Dogmas of the Council of Trent to be adhered to "FOREVER"…More
@Ultraviolet @chris griffin Yes exactly! Well said! I've noticed on many occasions that there is a tendency amongst the post Vatican II Upper Hierarchy to refer to an Inspirer - whom they call simply "The Spirit", yet they have not convinced us that it is actually the "HOLY Spirit " the third Person of the Holy Trinity, He who laid down the Dogmas of the Council of Trent to be adhered to "FOREVER" so He won't ever be substituting them for a Nouvelle Théologie! . The HS commits no error so there is absolutely NO point in a revisionist hoping to convince everyone that he's changed His views and things are now different so there!. So, my guess is it's a new "Spirit" going hand in hand with Francis into work each day 
They're's not very fond of the Roman Catholic Church whoever they are - perhaps it's Elizabeth the 1st?
Saying that, perhaps the "Spirit of Vatican II" is Martin Luther? -Christ revealed that just prior to His Second Coming, we would see another "Abomination of Desolation (see "Maccabees") standing "where it should not be " within "the Holy Place"at which juncture we should leave everything and RUN! As we speak, the candidates for the role of "A of D" seem to be Luther tying with Pachamama for first place BOTH of them have been seen "standing where they should not - in the Holy Place, so we are somewhat spoilt for choice if appearances are to be believed. Unless, as some suspect the title goes to second place candidate Bill Gates? Who is a lot more dangerous than Pachamama as she is only made of wood and is relatively harmless unless you hear her talk!!! The Vatican clearly believe Luther to be burning in Hell - how much more burnt looking could he look?- Cheer up! Look at the image they've chosen! Francis agrees!
#Here's what the Saints say about Martin Luther
Blessed Maria Serafina
Luther is in hell. Vision of the Blessed Mary of the Sacred Heart Séra…
eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/…13/01/padre-pio-said-that-martin-luther-is-in.html
Saying that, perhaps the "Spirit of Vatican II" is Martin Luther? -Christ revealed that just prior to His Second Coming, we would see another "Abomination of Desolation (see "Maccabees") standing "where it should not be " within "the Holy Place"at which juncture we should leave everything and RUN! As we speak, the candidates for the role of "A of D" seem to be Luther tying with Pachamama for first place BOTH of them have been seen "standing where they should not - in the Holy Place, so we are somewhat spoilt for choice if appearances are to be believed. Unless, as some suspect the title goes to second place candidate Bill Gates? Who is a lot more dangerous than Pachamama as she is only made of wood and is relatively harmless unless you hear her talk!!! The Vatican clearly believe Luther to be burning in Hell - how much more burnt looking could he look?- Cheer up! Look at the image they've chosen! Francis agrees!
#Here's what the Saints say about Martin Luther
Blessed Maria Serafina
Luther is in hell. Vision of the Blessed Mary of the Sacred Heart Séra…
eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/…13/01/padre-pio-said-that-martin-luther-is-in.html
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The Vatican II church is a heretical sect. One day soon it will be anathematized by a true pope, and its false claimants to the Chair of Peter shall all be posthumously excommunicated.
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The trumpet has an uncertain sound.
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Given his noise, that's lavish praise for our Pontiff. @philosopher Trumpet? Francis is a plastic kazoo, made in China.
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Francis was not made in China. He was made in the CIA. Just ask Henry Kissinger about Bergoglio.
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This is the most he has spoken in a long time. Who are his writers??
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Screwtape writes to Wormwood, I believe.
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His writers work at the U.S. State Department.
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“Walking together” with him will certainly mean walking deeper into covid tyranny, and far away from the Apostolic Faith. It’s the only way the cynically named “path of synodality” can lead.
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I recall when the First Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Nikita Khrushchev, angrily denounced his opponents by pounding his shoe on a table during a Plenary Meeting of the UN on October 20, 1960.
My father had an expression dismissive of anyone who put on such petulant displays as these: "Go pound sand."
My father had an expression dismissive of anyone who put on such petulant displays as these: "Go pound sand."
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That is a wonderful expression, which I too have inherited from my forbears!
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Francis is demonic.
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Enjoy what follows:
I Am A Catholic! Of Course I Wish For Francis To Die!
SEP 22
Posted by Mundabor
Here’s hoping he visits Francis soon..
The Evil Clown has complained that there were those who, when he underwent his recent operation, wished that he died. These must be people inside the Vatican, then not many people were informed of the fact, which was clearly not planned.
Kudos to them!
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Enjoy what follows:
I Am A Catholic! Of Course I Wish For Francis To Die!
SEP 22
Posted by Mundabor
Here’s hoping he visits Francis soon..
The Evil Clown has complained that there were those who, when he underwent his recent operation, wished that he died. These must be people inside the Vatican, then not many people were informed of the fact, which was clearly not planned.
Kudos to them!
Francis says that some people wished his death, as if it were something bad. Hilarious. Once again, he shows his entirely worldly thinking, he shows that he lives in a world where not being nice is an offence (an offence of which he has been guilty many times, btw) and being Catholic resembles a crime.
Not even a slow intelligence like Francis is, for a moment, thinking that these people, whoever they may be, wished him death because of personal animosity. No, he must admit himself that they wished he would die because he is a damn heretic and enemy of Christ and His Church.
If the Pope is a disgrace for the Church, it is perfectly fine and, most likely, the proper Catholic thing to do to wish for his death and pray the Lord that He may, in His own good time, make it happen.
On the contrary, I question your Catholic credentials if you wish that this Pope keeps ravaging the Church for a long time; then, to me, this is a very worrying indication that the thinking of the world (that is: the undesirability of “not being nice to someone”) is more important, to you, than the Church and the deleterious effects this papacy is having on, well, everything concerning Catholicism and salvation at large.
Whom do you love, Francis or Christ?
Even inside the Vatican, in what is now clearly a place resembling Sodom like it never did in the last 1000 years, there are people able to look around them, think straight, and draw the consequences from both.
I think that more and more Catholics need not only to wake up to the reality that they are, actually, supposed to wish the death of this man; but also that they should start to say this out loud every time they can. This would have, every single time, a beautiful, cleansing, eye-opening effect on the vast mass of Catholics-by-hearsay, or other Protestants and Schismatics, in that it would make them understand, with brutal efficacy, that if a person of proven Catholic credentials wishes the man dead, not one word of such a Pope can have any credibility.
Mind you: I wish the man death, but I do not wish him hell. This would, without any mistake, be a mortal sin, and I have no intention of wilfully incurring in one. No, I would love to, one day, be with the man in heaven, all our past sins and miseries cleansed and both happy in Christ’s presence. Believe me, this is a sincere wish. Still, not wishing Stalin hell is different from not wishing that he may die of a stroke as soon as may be. And yes, Francis is a plague very comparable to Stalin, and worse in many ways, because Stalin wasn’t Pope, and souls count infinitely more than bodies.
So there. A lot of people out there are either too much in love with their goodness, and/or afraid of committing a sin if they wish the man gone. They shouldn’t, and they aren’t.
I for myself will say it out loud that I hope the man meets His Maker today, this very hour.
I am a Catholic.
I do not sacrifice at the altar of niceness.
I Am A Catholic! Of Course I Wish For Francis To Die!
SEP 22
Posted by Mundabor
Here’s hoping he visits Francis soon..
The Evil Clown has complained that there were those who, when he underwent his recent operation, wished that he died. These must be people inside the Vatican, then not many people were informed of the fact, which was clearly not planned.
Kudos to them!
Francis says that some people wished his death, as if it were something bad. Hilarious. Once again, he shows his entirely worldly thinking, he shows that he lives in a world where not being nice is an offence (an offence of which he has been guilty many times, btw) and being Catholic resembles a crime.
Not even a slow intelligence like Francis is, for a moment, thinking that these people, whoever they may be, wished him death because of personal animosity. No, he must admit himself that they wished he would die because he is a damn heretic and enemy of Christ and His Church.
If the Pope is a disgrace for the Church, it is perfectly fine and, most likely, the proper Catholic thing to do to wish for his death and pray the Lord that He may, in His own good time, make it happen.
On the contrary, I question your Catholic credentials if you wish that this Pope keeps ravaging the Church for a long time; then, to me, this is a very worrying indication that the thinking of the world (that is: the undesirability of “not being nice to someone”) is more important, to you, than the Church and the deleterious effects this papacy is having on, well, everything concerning Catholicism and salvation at large.
Whom do you love, Francis or Christ?
Even inside the Vatican, in what is now clearly a place resembling Sodom like it never did in the last 1000 years, there are people able to look around them, think straight, and draw the consequences from both.
I think that more and more Catholics need not only to wake up to the reality that they are, actually, supposed to wish the death of this man; but also that they should start to say this out loud every time they can. This would have, every single time, a beautiful, cleansing, eye-opening effect on the vast mass of Catholics-by-hearsay, or other Protestants and Schismatics, in that it would make them understand, with brutal efficacy, that if a person of proven Catholic credentials wishes the man dead, not one word of such a Pope can have any credibility.
Mind you: I wish the man death, but I do not wish him hell. This would, without any mistake, be a mortal sin, and I have no intention of wilfully incurring in one. No, I would love to, one day, be with the man in heaven, all our past sins and miseries cleansed and both happy in Christ’s presence. Believe me, this is a sincere wish. Still, not wishing Stalin hell is different from not wishing that he may die of a stroke as soon as may be. And yes, Francis is a plague very comparable to Stalin, and worse in many ways, because Stalin wasn’t Pope, and souls count infinitely more than bodies.
So there. A lot of people out there are either too much in love with their goodness, and/or afraid of committing a sin if they wish the man gone. They shouldn’t, and they aren’t.
I for myself will say it out loud that I hope the man meets His Maker today, this very hour.
I am a Catholic.
I do not sacrifice at the altar of niceness.