Vegan
Okay, but downsizing is not going to accomplish what oversight and accountability would, either between professionals or with the public. If they do not show that they are taking extra measures to ensure that sexual misconduct will not happen again, why should they expect anyone to believe that they can prevent it (simply by doing the same thing with fewer people)?
Bob Jones papist
Vegan et all..,to think that Sisters/Nuns are clean and free from Scandal is naive, its just far less Public....and as far as authority remember an Abbess and a Religious Superior and a Teaching Sister has alot of it today... yes Nuns are in Scandal, sexual and heretical, ( its just not the same media sensation) many stories of young postulants,students etc being abused by lesbian 'Sisters', …More
Vegan et all..,to think that Sisters/Nuns are clean and free from Scandal is naive, its just far less Public....and as far as authority remember an Abbess and a Religious Superior and a Teaching Sister has alot of it today... yes Nuns are in Scandal, sexual and heretical, ( its just not the same media sensation) many stories of young postulants,students etc being abused by lesbian 'Sisters', for example Manitoba in Canada as recently as 1998, as well the Magdalene laundries in Ireland etc etc..its not about hierarchy-gender but SIN, sodomites, vice and drunken worldly power that corrupts..and feeds on an existing Pride and perverted homosexual selfishness, of those in authority..
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Vegan
Firstly, you are making references to your misinterpretations of my other discussions in order to attack my character. That is not going to fly.

Secondly, you are ignoring the problem to which this discussion and news report refers: sexual misconduct. The downsizing is already occurring, as reported (I was merely remarking that it was more reactionary than corrective). I then suggested …More
Firstly, you are making references to your misinterpretations of my other discussions in order to attack my character. That is not going to fly.

Secondly, you are ignoring the problem to which this discussion and news report refers: sexual misconduct. The downsizing is already occurring, as reported (I was merely remarking that it was more reactionary than corrective). I then suggested oversight between the sexes, just as this is being done in other professions, such as male doctors having female nurses in the room when they examine female patients. It prevents sexual misconduct from occurring (or being questionable). Do you have a better idea?
Vegan
No, the remark is still there, lordy:

"Someone else comes to mind that has a disgust for the human race ,and a hatred for the Priesthood

Behold the Cross of the Lord! fly ye powers of darkness ! The Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David has conquerred. Alleluia!"

This is an ad hominem, and it says more about you, rhemes1582, than me (that you are the one full of disgust and hatred). I …More
No, the remark is still there, lordy:

"Someone else comes to mind that has a disgust for the human race ,and a hatred for the Priesthood

Behold the Cross of the Lord! fly ye powers of darkness ! The Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David has conquerred. Alleluia!"

This is an ad hominem, and it says more about you, rhemes1582, than me (that you are the one full of disgust and hatred). I am the opposite of what you are projecting onto me. I am advocating for the truth.

The news story is about the church making changes in response to sex scandals. My commenting on that is no more hateful than the report itself. Get a grip, people.
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Vegan
The ad hominem is now your form letter response to any of my comments? That's lame (you must agree, it looks like you have since removed the remark). Well, your point about this topic only reinforces my suggestion that men and women oversee each other. How is that not a good idea?
Vegan
My point was that they obviously could not tell who the sex offenders were until after the fact, so if gender was a common factor between those who "messed up", then excluding members of that gender from positions in which they could take advantage at all would be an extreme but sure way to "safeguard the truth", as it were. Maybe the church should at least have males and females share each …More
My point was that they obviously could not tell who the sex offenders were until after the fact, so if gender was a common factor between those who "messed up", then excluding members of that gender from positions in which they could take advantage at all would be an extreme but sure way to "safeguard the truth", as it were. Maybe the church should at least have males and females share each leadership role in order to oversee each other's actions, and show that the church takes solving this problem seriously.
StCatherine
Vegan, that was a very nasty comment. Jesus left men to safeguard the Truth. Just because few messed up, it does not mean we should simply criticze the whole hierarquie of the Church. Your comment is hurtfull to those who are faithful to the Church. Uncalled for.
Vegan
Were there any nuns behind the sex scandals? Maybe they should downsize church leadership by eliminating all of the men (duh). 😜
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