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jimcat
I would rather look after my cat - my neighbour who is close to me - than give to “good causes“ that benefit strangers of whom I know nothing. papal and episcopal charities are morally dubious.
Ultraviolet
CCC 2418 " It is contrary to human dignity to cause animals to suffer or die needlessly. It is likewise unworthy to spend money on them that should as a priority go to the relief of human misery."
alfred dunn
What in the world does "die needlessly" mean?
Ultraviolet
It means the jollies you've been getting all these years torturing and killing neighborhood pets isn't a genuine "need'. That's what it means.
Darice Henriques
That's taking Mt 15:27 too literally ("But she said: Yea, Lord; for the whelps also eat of the crumbs that fall from the table of their masters." - DRB translation)
Darice Henriques
Oh my dog! 😱
Prayhard
The nearest Novus Ordo priest has his dog in the aisle watching proceedings. He is prone to depression.
Jeffrey Ade
You're right Wildstyle, this guys a ding dong!
Ultraviolet
Another idiot who values soulless animals more than his fellow Catholics. Brazil doesn't have abandonded starving people anymore, right?.
Oenipontanus
According to scholastic philosophy (i. e. the philosophy of the Roman Catholic Church for many centuries) animals are NOT soulless 😉
alfred dunn
Not quite. St. Thomas Aquinas taught that animal “souls” could not by their nature survive death. Unlike human souls, he said, they are perishable when separated from their proper bodies. they are not in heaven, nor should the silly priest turn Mass into an animal shelter.
Ultraviolet
@alfred dunn Thank you, Alfred. My compliments, btw. You corrected the error without indulging yourself with a scathing torrent of mockery at the one who made it. What this proves is you have more charity than I do while being at least as well-read (and quite possibly even more so). ;-)

Building on your incisive rebuttal, In Summa Theologiae, St Thomas Aquinas writes, "Dumb animals and plant…More
@alfred dunn Thank you, Alfred. My compliments, btw. You corrected the error without indulging yourself with a scathing torrent of mockery at the one who made it. What this proves is you have more charity than I do while being at least as well-read (and quite possibly even more so). ;-)

Building on your incisive rebuttal, In Summa Theologiae, St Thomas Aquinas writes, "Dumb animals and plants are devoid of the life of reason whereby to set themselves in motion; they are moved, as it were by another, by a kind of natural impulse, a sign of which is that they are naturally enslaved and accommodated to the uses of others."
The New Knights Templar
You don't hand out dogs at a Mass, you hand out dogs AFTER the Mass. The Mass isn't about us or about us and dogs, it's about God. The focus needs to be on God.
Ultraviolet
Even in Novus Ordo Land where the focus -is- on people and not God, why not keep the focus on people? Feed the poor, clothe the naked, care for the sick... people. Brazil has plenty who are in desperate need. Father Fido here has his pastoral priorities badly screwed up.
Hugh N. Cry
Good idea to save them, but Mass isn’t appropriate.
Ultraviolet
It isn't a good idea, even then. Every dollar this priest spends on caring for animals is a dollar he could have spent caring for the human poor.... could have and didn't. Matthew 25: 35-40 wasn't about running an animal shelter out of a church.
Hugh N. Cry
Do both. Good stewardship.
The New Knights Templar
@Ultraviolet Exactly. It seems in todays world, some people will step over a homeless person on the sidewalk in pursuit of saving an animal. There is a place and a time for doing both, but the priority goes to humans.
chris griffin
I second that emotion. Animals have become the new children which is a sign of abandonment of the truth.
Ultraviolet
Unless either of you gents have found a way to produce unlimited amounts of money, both isn't possible @Hugh N. Cry This is, I believe, what @The New Knights Templar is referencing from the Catholic Catechism, para.2418 " It is contrary to human dignity to cause animals to suffer or die needlessly. It is likewise unworthy to spend money on them that should as a priority go to the relief of …More
Unless either of you gents have found a way to produce unlimited amounts of money, both isn't possible @Hugh N. Cry This is, I believe, what @The New Knights Templar is referencing from the Catholic Catechism, para.2418 " It is contrary to human dignity to cause animals to suffer or die needlessly. It is likewise unworthy to spend money on them that should as a priority go to the relief of human misery."

...and until every homeless, starving man woman and child in Brazil is housed and fed, the priority of care belongs to them, not stray pets.
Hugh N. Cry
Do you have a pet, or really anything other than the basic needs of existence? If you do, according to your thinking, you’re wasting money. I’m sure in your “neck of the woods” there are still needy people. I’ve noticed you seem to find arguments where there is no need.
Roberto 55
Blasphemy.