Confused Vatican: “We Baptize You” Was "Valid" In 2003 And Invalid In 2020

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith concluded in August that baptisms administered according to the formula “We baptise you” are invalid. However before, another Vatican Congregation gave …
mystic
Who the heck is I.
Jesus said: "I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. Jesus makes a clear distinction between Him and the reader. Therefore use pluralis majestatis. Include the king of kings. If not you are alone and without Jesus you can do nothing. Well that is a clear definition of: What you do …More
Who the heck is I.
Jesus said: "I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. Jesus makes a clear distinction between Him and the reader. Therefore use pluralis majestatis. Include the king of kings. If not you are alone and without Jesus you can do nothing. Well that is a clear definition of: What you do without me is void. Or a definition of --baptism using "I" is nothing.
Ultraviolet
Very likely, when the scope of this problem becomes evident, some fancy theological footwork will occur and quoting the film version of Nineteen Eighty Four, ""A lie becomes truth and then becomes a lie again."
Scapular
Briefly - 'Ecclesia supplet ' applies only to jurisdictional matters lacking and not sacramental defects.
From the learned Father.

8. Of the seven sacraments, two were instituted In specie. In
specie in this context means that Christ gave us the form, i.e. what to
say, as well as the matter, i.e. the material things to be used. The two
instituted In specie are Baptism and Holy
Eucharist. Change …More
Briefly - 'Ecclesia supplet ' applies only to jurisdictional matters lacking and not sacramental defects.
From the learned Father.

8. Of the seven sacraments, two were instituted In specie. In
specie in this context means that Christ gave us the form, i.e. what to
say, as well as the matter, i.e. the material things to be used. The two
instituted In specie are Baptism and Holy
Eucharist. Change the meaning, and therefore the signification, of either
of those two, and you wreck the sacrament.

9. St Thomas has, in this connection, the following cautionary
word:

'The other point to be considered is the meaning of the words. For since in the sacraments, the words produce an effect according to the sense which they convey, as stated above, we must see whether the change of words destroys the essential sense of the words: because then the sacrament is clearly rendered invalid.' (Summa Th. III, Q.60, Art.8).
Fr Meuli's argument lays waste to the general concept that the "short form" of consecration is sufficient to confect the Sacrament.http://promultis.blogspot.com/2006...
Dr Bobus
Actually, the Church is unable to change the Sacramental Matter if it''s found in Scripture. For example, the Sacramental Matter of Holy Orders is a Baptized male, cf. Ordinatio Sacerdotalis.

The Church claims authority to say what are the words of every Sacramental Form. Thus, the decision on the Anaphora of Addai and Mari of 2001.
Dr Bobus
If, by "short form", he is saying that for all invalidates the consecration, he is wrong. The Sacramental Form designates the matter. Just as This is My Body designates that the bread is changed to Christ's Body, the same is true for the 2d consecration: This is the Chalice of My Blood. cf ST, III, 78, 3
Roberto 55
How can be Vatican confused regarding issues of faith?
Dr Bobus
Because the Congregation for Divine Worship and (Lack of) Discipline of the Sacraments was stacked with liberals.
P. O'B
Casey Stengel, manager of the New York Mets, said of his woefully inept team in 1962: "Can't anybody here play this game?" He might have been speaking about the Church.