AlexBKaiser
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Could Francis be like the Medieval Antipope Anacletus who was Sanctioned by the Majority of Cardinals?

Is it possible for Francis to be a antipope even though the majority of cardinals claim he is pope? …
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Bergoglians cannot even be excused from ignorance, they act with full knowledge and malice.
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Los Bergoglianos no solo tienen voluntariamente los ojos cerrados sino también su intelecto y son tan cínicos que buscan maliciosamente tapar el sol con las manos.
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🤔 Ultraviolet is a classic example of Bergoglian idolatry that accepts a previous heretic and a stubborn heretic as Pope when not only is it known that Bergoglio was already an apostate in Argentina but they also have the cynicism of continuing to call a public heretic a pope when the Church Magisterium also says that a public heretic is automatically excommunicated (Ipso facto).
Ultraviolet
"so you want to force us to accept a self-excommunicated heretic..." Wrong. I want you to apply your standards evenly, @Gesù è con noi . I've said so on GTV many times now because people like you never do.
Apply your standards to ALL the Popes if there are factually supported accusations of heresy and apostasy against them.
"The Magisterium of the Church not only excommunicates Ipso Facto to …More
"so you want to force us to accept a self-excommunicated heretic..." Wrong. I want you to apply your standards evenly, @Gesù è con noi . I've said so on GTV many times now because people like you never do.

Apply your standards to ALL the Popes if there are factually supported accusations of heresy and apostasy against them.

"The Magisterium of the Church not only excommunicates Ipso Facto to heretics but also excommunicates their accomplices..."

For the sake of discussion, let's assume it does. ;-)

That excommunication should include you as well, assuming you recognize any of the following men as Pope: Benedict XVI, Saint John Paul II, John Paul I, Paul VI, and Saint John XXIII.

Other critics have documented instances of "heresy" against them as well.

I noticed you quietly dropped the issue of "monus" in Papal resignations. It was wise of you to cut your losses. ;-)
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The Magisterium of the Church not only excommunicates Ipso Facto to heretics but also excommunicates Ipso Facto their accomplices. mercaba.org/MAGISTERIO/cum_ex_apostola…
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Ultraviolet so you want to force us to accept a self-excommunicated heretic whom you have placed as your god above the Magisterium of the Church. 😡
Ultraviolet
No, too bad for you, Gesu. First, the Church decides when someone is a heretic, not random, uneducated members of the laity. Be grateful for that since, since other critics have found numerous instances of supposed heresy under the last four Popes, one of which is now considered a Catholic Saint.
"it is known that Pope Benedict XVI did not renounce the Petrine monus."
I mentioned uneducated …More
No, too bad for you, Gesu. First, the Church decides when someone is a heretic, not random, uneducated members of the laity. Be grateful for that since, since other critics have found numerous instances of supposed heresy under the last four Popes, one of which is now considered a Catholic Saint.

"it is known that Pope Benedict XVI did not renounce the Petrine monus."

I mentioned uneducated for a reason.
1.) You probably meant "munus", not "monus" Using Latin doesn't impress me, especially when you can't spell it correctly.

2.) a rejection of "munus" (Petrine or otherwise) isn't listed as a requirement under Canon Law 332.2 Only two requirements are necessary for resignation. I quote them here verbatim. ", it is required for validity that the resignation is made freely and properly manifested...".
Zero mention of "monus" as a requirement. :D

Got that, Gesù è con noi ? Freely, and properly manifesetd. Those are the requirements for a valid Papal resignation. That's IT.

Benedict has mentioned how his resignation was done "freely" any number of times and Canon Law doesn't stipulate any conditions for "proper manifestation". Benedict did so by publicly stating his resignation at his last General Audience as Pope and also in writing and he's done so repeatedly afterwards.
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Furthermore, it is known that Pope Benedict XVI did not renounce the Petrine monus, that is, that there was never an apostolic succession, therefore Bergoglio is doubly an anti-Pope.
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Además, se sabe que el Papa Benedicto XVI no renunció al monus petrino, es decir, que nunca hubo una sucesión apostólica, por lo tanto Bergoglio es doblemente un anti-papa.
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Ultraviolet Too Bad for you because the Magisterium decrees, invalid and null the election of a heretic.
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Pope Paul IV Cum Ex Apostolatus OfficioApostolic Constitution
6. In addition, [by this Our Constitution, which is to remain valid in perpetuity We enact, determine, decree and define:-] that if ever at any time it shall appear that any Bishop, even if he be acting as an Archbishop, Patriarch or Primate; or any Cardinal of the aforesaid Roman Church, or, as has already been mentioned, any legate, or …More
Pope Paul IV Cum Ex Apostolatus OfficioApostolic Constitution
6. In addition, [by this Our Constitution, which is to remain valid in perpetuity We enact, determine, decree and define:-] that if ever at any time it shall appear that any Bishop, even if he be acting as an Archbishop, Patriarch or Primate; or any Cardinal of the aforesaid Roman Church, or, as has already been mentioned, any legate, or even the Roman Pontiff, prior to his promotion or his elevation as Cardinal or Roman Pontiff, has deviated from the Catholic Faith or fallen into some heresy:

(i) the promotion or elevation, even if it shall have been uncontested and by the unanimous assent of all the Cardinals, shall be null, void and worthless;


(ii) it shall not be possible for it to acquire validity (nor for it to be said that it has thus acquired validity) through the acceptance of the office, of consecration, of subsequent authority, nor through possession of administration, nor through the putative enthronement of a Roman Pontiff, or Veneration, or obedience accorded to such by all, nor through the lapse of any period of time in the foregoing situation;

(iii) it shall not be held as partially legitimate in any way;

(iv) to any so promoted to be Bishops, or Archbishops, or Patriarchs, or Primates or elevated as Cardinals, or as Roman Pontiff, no authority shall have been granted, nor shall it be considered to have been so granted either in the spiritual or the temporal domain;

(v) each and all of their words, deeds, actions and enactments, howsoever made, and anything whatsoever to which these may give rise, shall be without force and shall grant no stability whatsoever nor any right to anyone;

(vi) those thus promoted or elevated shall be deprived automatically, and without need for any further declaration, of all dignity, position, honour, title, authority, office and power.
Ultraviolet
Too bad he isn't an "antipope" Gesù è con noi He was lawfully elected. As for "apostasy", people have been accusing recent popes of that, long before "Bergoglio".
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The only difference would be that the cardinals who sanction Anti Pope Bergoglio will be few since the majority are also apostate and accomplices of the anti-Pope Bergoglio.