Parish-Business Doesn't Want Pregnant Mother

Actually she put both her children at risk, during and after the incident. She provoked the police into arresting her while she's pregant -and- holding her infant. That's "during. " The "after" might end up being worse. Now the police and the courts are involved with her family The so-called "Child Protective Services" are always looking for new families that need "intervention" and "counselling" and maybe even "foster care". Then we'll see even moar "look what happened to us, we need money, please donate" posts on GTV

"THE INCOMPARABLE FATHER ALTMAN speaks on the complicity of the clergy..." --so did THE INCOMPARABLE UV over ten hours ago. . ;-) Official Statement from Bishop Burns in Dallas, TX. "We also expect the Catholic faithful in the Diocese of Dallas to continue to wear masks out of charity and concern for all those around them."

Bishop Burns outranks Fr. Altman and the Texas governor on Church matters. What I said ten hours ago, still holds true... "Ultimately, part of being 'the Catholic faithful' is recognizing the chain of command. It's been a source of unity and strength for millenia. One has only to look at the many hundreds of other Christian denominations/ sub-groups to see how 'I'm right because I prayed on it and God tole me I'm right' works out."

You just got caught in another lie, @Ave Crux . :D You "don't read" my comments, remember? So how could you decide my comments were "hate" unless you read them? You're either a liar when you say you "don't read" my comments or you're a liar because you criticized me for a comment you didn't read. Either way, you lied. Gotcha! Time to go back and change what you said again!

I wasn't even poking fun at "the courageous Father Altman." I was poking fun at you because you keep introducing irrelevant comments by well-known priests to back up your failed arguments. Last time it was Fr. Ripperger, now it's Fr. Altman. The only clerical authority that counts here is Bishop Burns since it's his diocese.

" I suggest you find something better to do with your life than attack the courageous Catholics..."

I suggest you get your stories straight. Pick one lie and stick with it. This woman isn't "courageous" either. She put her children at risk out of stubborness and pride, failings you obviously share.

"Attacking yet another good priest"....and I did no such thing. So you're a liar because you criticized a comment you actually didn't read.

If you'd read the comment, you would have found I was poking fun at YOU not Fr. Altman. So... you're still wrong and my word count is still shorter! :D

FACT CHECK: ULTRAVIOLET IS LYING. UPDATE! Now the evidence is in....! Hear ye....hear ye....!

Let it hereby be duly noted that based on very "embarrassing" evidence amassed by Ultraviolet by taking covert screenshots of her fellow Catholics' posts (beware -- it could happen to you ;-0) there is now proof positive that I have been unjustly accused "changing [my] argument..."

This slanderous accusation of lying and double-dealing was thrown at me by Ultraviolet simply because I ADDED THE OBSERVATION TO MY POST ABOUT HOW MY OWN MEDICAL CONDITION ALSO MAKES IT NECESSARY FOR ME TO SOMETIMES ATTEND MASS WITHOUT A MASK (an experience I explain at length elsewhere to illustrate how this poor mother's situation SHOULD have been handled by her Pastor)

And because I added this information as a continuation of my train of thought in this matter-- rather than adding a SECOND comment below my FIRST comment saying exactly the same thing, Ultraviolet has accused me of the "crime" of "CHANGING [my] argument" in some nefarious way.

I wasn't aware that Ultraviolet sets the Rules for how we manage and update our posts if we have additional thoughts on a given topic or post.

And yet, the "evidence" so kindly provided by Ultraviolet shows that not only DIDN'T I change my argument, but I rather nailed my argument down even further with another detail to express what I was thinking.

For this "crime", Ultraviolet calls me a "lying little rat" in public....AND YET, ULTRAVIOLET'S OWN EVIDENCE SHOWS I CHANGED NOTHING AT ALL IN MY ARGUMENT, AND ALL I DID WAS SIMPLY ADD THE OBSERVATION TO MY COMMENT THAT I ALSO HAVE A MEDICAL EXEMPTION FROM WEARING A MASK AT MASS....

For the alleged crime of combining my thoughts into a single comment instead of adding a second one saying exactly the same thing, Ultraviolet would like to destroy my reputation, call me a "lying little rat", and tell the readers I can't be trusted......???????

Thank you, Ultraviolet, for clearing my name....(which you slandered to begin with)

@Ultraviolet Furthermore, you are constantly bullying people who don't agree with you. Well, I am not going to let you bully me.

Your only defense on this post is to accuse me of lying, of making things up, of changing posts to suit a narrative when I'm not even addressing you, nor have I even read anything you've written except a glance at the first inflammatory statement with which you start every post.

Frankly, I think you've lost your mind. Your behavior is absolutely bizarre. And I'm not going to let it stop me from stating my mind about a very upsetting issue with Catholics in churches right now, and sharing precise facts about my own experience in the church which I attend regularly. God bless.

"Furthermore, you are constantly bullying people who don't agree with you." --said the person who's calling me a "troll" to avoid discussing the issue reasonably.

"Your only defense on this post is to accuse me of lying, of making things up, of changing posts to suit a narrative when I'm not even addressing you"

Your references are clear and you got caught changing your commment AFTER I replied. Your story reflects your argument too precisely, even down to the pastor and usher supporting your petty vindictiveness.

No one is preventing you from "stating your mind". Please allow others that same freedom.

"Frankly, I think you've lost your mind."

You've already disqualified yourself on that point. My word count is shorter, too.. ;-)

@Ultraviolet So now ADDING further details to my post in order to further develop my thoughts along the same line in the same post -- instead of posting a 2nd comment -- is "lying"...?

Well, nothing you have supposedly "captured" on me is at all embarrassing. Oh, horrors!.... I further developed my own comments (within moments, even!) in a single post instead of adding a 2nd comment seconds later to say exactly the same thing I added to the first one...what a criiiiime....!

P.S. NEWS FLASH -- THAT'S WHAT THE EDIT FEATURE IS FOR -- AND I AM DOING THE SAME THING HERE ADDING THIS P.S. -- SO PEOPLE CAN FURTHER DEVELOP THEIR THOUGHTS IN THE SAME POST INSTEAD ADDING MORE COMMENTS ON TOP OF THEIR COMMENTS. OR ARE YOU WRITING RULES FOR HOW WE CAN USE THE EDIT FEATURE NOW?

And then you you are so small, so vindictive and intent on trying to destroy fellow Catholics that you actually take screen shots of comments to try to use them to embarrass people....? You don't see an aberration here in your behavior on a Catholic website at all?

Look who is still reading my comments! :D You went back and "added further details" AFTER I replied to address what I mentioned.You're changing what you orignally said, trying to cover your failed reasoning and mistakes. That's a lie by alteration.

"within moments even". That's a lie too. You changed what you said AFTER I replied. and it took me 17 minutes to write my comment. The comments have time-stamps which DON'T change, even after editing.
Ave Crux 50 minutes ago. Ultraviolet 33 minutes ago. That's seventeen minutes, minimum.

"P.S. NEWS FLASH -- THAT'S WHAT THE EDIT FEATURE IS FOR ..."

You use the "edit" feature to change what you originally said when you realize you're wrong.

...and honest users don't do that, "rules" or not.

"You don't see an aberration here in your behavior on a Catholic website at all?"

...said the liar who changes what they orignally said after they realize it's wrong. ...said the name-calling bully who complains about "bullying".

"It is mind-boggling that any Catholic would even defend that,"

It's mind-boggling a mother would risk her unborn child and infant deliberately provoking an arrest. But reason still beats rhetoric.

DO NOT FEED THE TROLL: (This desperation on Ultraviolet's part is actually sad and pathological).

@Ultraviolet PLEASE BE ADVISED ONCE AGAIN THAT I AM NOT READING YOUR REPLY TO MY COMMENTS, SO YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME TYPING THEM.

This sad world is aggravating enough without adding to it the harassment of trolls.

Oh, really? I concede absolutely nothing. Your inexplicable defense as a Catholic of this outrageous behavior by a Priest in the middle of Mass -- as a woman kneels for her Thanksgiving after receiving Holy Communion! -- is so desperate that you have had to resort to throwing rocks and mud, and accusing me of lying and making things up, and "changing" posts simply because I add additional thoughts to my own comment rather than adding a second comment below it, as though there's something wrong with that???

You fit the definition perfectly:

"as a woman kneels for her Thanksgiving after receiving Holy Communion" Taylor Marshall said differently. Try reading the article again. Still waiting for you to explain why a good Catholic mother endangers her children with such antics, too.

I caught you changing your comments AFTER I replied to them. So yes, you did lie.

"I add additional thoughts to my own comment" -- AFTER you read my reply.and AFTER you realized you needed "additional thoughts". :PThat's dishonest and that's why I caught you with a screen-cap.

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Yeah, well FIRST YOU ACCUSE ME PUBLICLY and SPECIFICALLY OF CHANGING MY ARGUMENT....not simply expanding on my thoughts by sharing my own experience.

SECOND: I hadn't even read [I DON'T READ YOUR EXTENSIVE SCREEDS] your unwelcome reply when I further developed my thoughts and the fact I further explained my own experience had absolutely nothing to do with YOU...

It's about TIME YOU STOP USING GLORIA TV TO SPREAD YOUR WRETCHED ACCUSATIONS AND SPIN YOUR SICK THEORIES ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE THINK AND DO AS THOUGH YOU ARE THE CENTER OF THEIR UNIVERSE AND EVERYTHING I WROTE HAD YOU IN MIND.

And as far as your absolutely clueless assertion that this woman endangered her child, if you had spent the countless hours I did preparing exhibits on the COVID stats for court cases, you would know that's not even a remote possibility.

Rather than share voluminous exhibits, I referred to a US stat on the internet. After the height of the "pandemic" the stats show 92% of all deaths were those over 55 years of age with FAR FEWER UNDER THE AGE OF 20 THAN FOR THE FLU.

Now just leave me alone, will you? You're a nuisance troll who thinks they know everything. Good bye.

DO NOT FEED THE TROLL (i.e. a Catholic who would actually defend the outrage of the Police officer leaning over and threatening to handcuff a kneeling mother holding her child and who -- as the mother explains in the interview -- was kneeling and trying to pay attention to Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament Who "was still on [her] tongue"...all of this arranged by the local "Shepherd of souls" -- her Pastor -- who saw fit to orchestrate this outrage during the course of a Mass.

Yes, it's better not to reason with trolls who like to defend such egregious offenses in the sight of God because of their highly intellectual and sophisticated reasoning which misses the obvious.....like there are more pastoral ways in which to handle such "problems" without calling the police and creating a sacrilege in the middle of Mass, and without ignoring MEDICAL reasons, like pregnancy, for not wearing masks -- something I am quite familiar with as I almost fainted in the middle of Mass while wearing a mask, and have a medical exemption due to my medical conditions.

Where's your outrage at a mother who deliberately put her infant and unborn child at risk with this stunt in the first place? Typical Ave Crux "fake concern" for the family. Nice back-edit, too. Yes, I noticed. :D

"...like there are more pastoral ways in which to handle such problems..."

The priest already tried that. Like you, she just didn't want to listen. That's why the police got called. This woman forced this fiasco. That's the "obvious" you keep missing, love. Cry "troll" all you want. It won't change what happened, it won't make you right and my word count is still shorter. ;-)

@Ave Crux God's watching you change your comments after I reply to them. A lie by alteration is still a lie. During Holy Week no less. ;-)

...and your "back-edit" still fails. 1.) If she had a genuine medical reason, she should have brought it up to the priest BEFORE Mass. 2.) Many masks are totally porous (like my tagelmust) and don't interfere with breathing 3.) "something I am quite familiar with as I almost fainted" is an anecdotal fallacy/ pity ploy.. Now go back-edit your comment again with another "added argument". ;-)

@Ultraviolet Oh really...what exactly did I change in my comments, except to make it more precise within a moment or two after posting so I would be sure it was clear....?

I invite you to show readers how I supposedly "lied".... since you are such a wonderful person you even take screen shots of other people's posts so you can try to embarrass them later. You're not ashamed of your behavior?

You are a very sad troll in the truest sense of the word. I have only replied because you have accused me in public of lying.....

That is the only time I will reply --- other than that:

Protip: You DID just admit to changing your comment. All you're trying to hide now is 1.) what and 2.) when and 3.) why. :-)

1.) You added your "medical" related argument. pic related.

2.) You added this AFTER I replied, which is what you do when you're wrong.

3.) Why is obvious enough. See 2.) Gotcha, you back-editing charlatan..