"the rank hypocrisy of the clergy after they arrest two mothers..." -Ave Crux Fact Check: the clergy didn't arrest anyone. :P
Taylor Marshall does a sequel on this interview concerning the rank hypocrisy of the clergy after they arrest two mothers praying at church, while the likes of Theordore McCarrick and his ilk get cover for their decades of perversion:
youtube.com/watch?v=gRnfko0f_Cc
The words of the prophet Jeremiah certainly apply to these our times and these our "shepherds":
"Woe to the pastors, that destroy and tear the sheep of my pasture, saith the Lord. Therefore thus saith the Lord the God of Israel to the pastors that feed my people: You have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold I will visit upon you for the evil of your doings, saith the Lord.
For the prophet and the priest are defiled: and in my house I have found their wickedness, saith the Lord.
Therefore their way shall be as a slippery way in the dark: for they shall be driven on, and fall therein: for I will bring evils upon them, the year of their visitation, saith the Lord.
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And I have seen the likeness of adulterers, and the way of lying in the prophets of Jerusalem: and they strengthened the hand of the wicked, that no man should return from his evil doings: that are all become unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gamorrha.
Therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts to the prophets: Behold I will feed them with wormwood, and I will give them gall to drink: for from the prophets of Jerusalem corruption has gone forth into all the land...."
"Now even the secular press is expressing horror..." LOL... using the secular press to justify a woman endangering her unborn child and infant. Attaboy, @Ave Crux
Protip: citing the popular opinion of "the secular press" is a fallacious appeal to authority. Is the "secular press" right when they're "expressing horror" at the pro-life movement? Or at people who don't embrace homosexuality? Well? ;-)
"Indeed, it would be entirely unnatural for anyone not to be horrified by..." "Only an unfeeling soul would..." Indeed, those are No True Scottsman Fallacies. She deliberately put her children at risk tryng to bluff the police. Now there is an "unfeeling soul". Doesn't say much about you since you're defending the woman.
Actually she put both her children at risk, during and after the incident. She provoked the police into arresting her while she's pregant -and- holding her infant. That's "during. " The "after" might end up being worse. Now the police and the courts are involved with her family The so-called "Child Protective Services" are always looking for new families that need "intervention" and "counselling" and maybe even "foster care". Then we'll see even moar "look what happened to us, we need money, please donate" posts on GTV
Now even the secular press is expressing horror at how this Catholic mother was treated.
Indeed, it would be entirely unnatural for anyone not to be horrified by expelling a woman and her children from church in the middle of a Mass taking place. Only an unfeeling soul would not find this egregious and massively abusive:
thegatewaypundit.com/…ed-holy-mass-not-wearing-mask-ratted-pastor-video/
THE INCOMPARABLE FATHER ALTMAN speaks on the complicity of the clergy in the "godless restrictions" imposed on the Faithful -- some doing so even after government officials had granted greater leniency, such as the Governor of TX did in lifting the mask mandate while the Priest arrested a mother for not wearing one anyway (fittingly I just came upon this video sermon from his Palm Sunday Mass -- Father comments with righteous indignation upon what this priest did to the mother referred to in this post) youtube.com/watch?v=h_p71021FdE
"THE INCOMPARABLE FATHER ALTMAN speaks on the complicity of the clergy..." --so did THE INCOMPARABLE UV over ten hours ago. . ;-) Official Statement from Bishop Burns in Dallas, TX. "We also expect the Catholic faithful in the Diocese of Dallas to continue to wear masks out of charity and concern for all those around them."
Bishop Burns outranks Fr. Altman and the Texas governor on Church matters. What I said ten hours ago, still holds true... "Ultimately, part of being 'the Catholic faithful' is recognizing the chain of command. It's been a source of unity and strength for millenia. One has only to look at the many hundreds of other Christian denominations/ sub-groups to see how 'I'm right because I prayed on it and God tole me I'm right' works out."
NOW ULTRAVIOLET SLINGS HATE AT THE COURAGEOUS FATHER ALTMAN. I suggest you find something better to do with your life than attack the courageous Catholics (priests, mothers and laymen alike) who are finally standing up to the lies, complicity and dereliction of duty of the Catholic hierarchy in this country. Father Altman is a heroic priest and we need thousands more like him.
Fact Check: Ave Crux was caught changing their argument after someone replied. Please remember that when reading their "perfectly relevant" story.
FACT CHECK: ULTRAVIOLET IS LYING. UPDATE! Now the evidence is in....! Hear ye....hear ye....!
Let it hereby be duly noted that based on very "embarrassing" evidence amassed by Ultraviolet by taking covert screenshots of her fellow Catholics' posts (beware -- it could happen to you ;-0) there is now proof positive that I have been unjustly accused "changing [my] argument..."
This slanderous accusation of lying and double-dealing was thrown at me by Ultraviolet simply because I ADDED THE OBSERVATION TO MY POST ABOUT HOW MY OWN MEDICAL CONDITION ALSO MAKES IT NECESSARY FOR ME TO SOMETIMES ATTEND MASS WITHOUT A MASK (an experience I explain at length elsewhere to illustrate how this poor mother's situation SHOULD have been handled by her Pastor)
And because I added this information as a continuation of my train of thought in this matter-- rather than adding a SECOND comment below my FIRST comment saying exactly the same thing, Ultraviolet has accused me of the "crime" of "CHANGING [my] argument" in some nefarious way.
I wasn't aware that Ultraviolet sets the Rules for how we manage and update our posts if we have additional thoughts on a given topic or post.
And yet, the "evidence" so kindly provided by Ultraviolet shows that not only DIDN'T I change my argument, but I rather nailed my argument down even further with another detail to express what I was thinking.
For this "crime", Ultraviolet calls me a "lying little rat" in public....AND YET, ULTRAVIOLET'S OWN EVIDENCE SHOWS I CHANGED NOTHING AT ALL IN MY ARGUMENT, AND ALL I DID WAS SIMPLY ADD THE OBSERVATION TO MY COMMENT THAT I ALSO HAVE A MEDICAL EXEMPTION FROM WEARING A MASK AT MASS....
For the alleged crime of combining my thoughts into a single comment instead of adding a second one saying exactly the same thing, Ultraviolet would like to destroy my reputation, call me a "lying little rat", and tell the readers I can't be trusted......???????
Thank you, Ultraviolet, for clearing my name....(which you slandered to begin with)
Screen-caps don't lie, you charlatan. That's why I take them when I deal with a lying little rat. Pic related.
I would like to share a similar experience with Gloria.TV readers and how it was handled with decency, compassion and pastoral discretion.
I have several severely debilitating physical issues. While at Mass one Sunday, I was so faint, I found it impossible to wear a mask. At the Offertory, an usher came over to me and said someone had "complained" about the fact I did not have my mask on and asked me to put it on.
I explained to the usher I was feeling faint and was not physically able to do that without it getting worse.
The usher immediately asked if I needed any assistance and assured me they would inform the person who complained and I would be left alone.
That's exactly what happened. No police were summoned to handcuff me if I didn't leave the church, much less at the very moment I was kneeling after receiving Holy Communion, disrupting the Sacred Mysteries in such an egregious, sacrilegeous manner.
In fact, the Pastor of this church once announced that he doesn't want anyone "policing" others who may not be wearing masks over their noses, etc., that one can never know the reason an individual may not be able to do as asked.
THAT is was a true Priest does -- THAT is how a true shepherd of souls acts...he doesn't summon the police to expel a woman from church just as she returns from Holy Communion.
It is mind-boggling that any Catholic would even defend that, much less DO that....
Further, this happened in a diocese where the Bishop absolutely requires that masks be worn at Mass.
CONCLUSION: Pastoral decency, restraint, charity and respect for the Sacred Mysteries is always THE priority....nothing less....
Your entire tailor-made story is as real as your "excellent Catholic attorney" and your "well-known Catholic apologist" It's also...
"It is mind-boggling that any Catholic would even defend that,"
It's mind-boggling a mother would risk her unborn child and infant deliberately provoking an arrest. But reason still beats rhetoric.
"The outrage is all the more toxic in that the Governor..." @Ave Crux Skip the CNN rhetoric, kay? :P The bishop decides church policy not the governor. Now you give the secular world precedence over The Church when it suits you. Followed by a charlatan's faux-piety.
"even as she was kneeling in prayer with the Blessed Sacrament."
Wrong. So says Taylor Marshall "When Deidre came back from Communion, three officers waited for her..."
The police waited until after she'd received. That isn't a sacrilege, that's courtesy. You're re-writing what actually happened. Brain fog again, or moar fibbing again? ;-)
"What must Our Lord within this woman have experienced at such an injustice and outrage of the Sacred Mysteries....?"
The fallacious appeal to emotion doesn't work for you. The outrage is too wordy to be genuine.
..and solid bold paragraphs are no substitute for explaining why she chose to put her unborn child and her infant at risk during an arrest.
"and in Nazi Germany..."
Godwin's Law proven once again. Protip: Aquinas doesn't apply here since the Bishop does have "right reason" if based in over-abundance of caution. You fail at logic as you fail at theology. Fun Trivia: My word count's STILL lower than yours, even including your quotes. INB4 "Yerra Troll" YouTube and TL;DR :D
Like I said, INB4... 'cuz everyone who exposes your lies is a troll, amirite? . Stay in fantasy-land, Ave Crux . It's safer there. :P
The outrage is all the more toxic in that the Governor has said that masks are NOT mandatory....and yet the Priest chose to arrange a sacrilegious intervention by having the police enter to expel this woman during the Mass in progress, and at the very moment when she had received Holy Communion, even as she was kneeling in prayer with the Blessed Sacrament -- OUR LORD TRULY AND FULLY PRESENT -- within her.
This Priest is acting as though he has absolutely no faith in what this woman has just received in the Blessed Sacrament -- confronting a woman with handcuffs at the very moment of Holy Communion in the middle of Mass.
IT IS A SACRILEGE....What must Our Lord within this woman have experienced at such an injustice and outrage of the Sacred Mysteries....? How will this Priest answer for such an abuse when he stands in judgment?
Further, the State of Texas has reported that the COVID cases is at THE LOWEST EVER, and this is after removing the mask mandate.
When citizens and Catholics put up no resistance to Stalinistic tactics, it is no different than acquiescence to the gradual imposition of the unjust tyranny which took place in Communist regimes and in Nazi Germany when everyone simply did what they were told and did not resist.
If "unjust laws are no law at all" (Aquinas), how much more unjust are the actions of this Priest in the absence of any law whatsoever which would require him to impose the use of masks on a pregnant woman kneeling in prayer after Holy Communion....?
"Human law is law only by virtue of its accordance with right reason; and thus it is manifest that it flows from the eternal law. And in so far as it deviates from right reason it is called an unjust law; in such case it is no law at all, but rather a species of violence."
-- Thomas Aquinas, Summa theologiae, Ia-Ilae, q. xciii, art. 3, ad 2m.
This is how civil disobedience works. Do we really think the police want to waste resources and look bad by arresting a pregnant woman for a misdemeanor?
She also chose to put her infant and unborn child at risk during her civil disobedience. Worse, now the authorities are involved with her family and so-called "Child Protective Services" is always looking for new "at-risk" families to break up.
" asked during Mass to either comply to mask rules or to be arrested.".--and she chose that, even though she's pregnant and holding an infant. The police don't bluff about that and, yes, The Church is a business.
Management has the right to set the dress-code for the venue. Management has done so: "We also expect the Catholic faithful in the Diocese of Dallas to continue to wear masks out of charity and concern for all those around them."
Ultimately, part of being "the Catholic faithful" is recognizing the chain of command. It's been a source of unity and strength for millenia. One has only to look at the many hundreds of other Christian denominations/ sub-groups to see how "I'm right because I prayed on it and God tole me I'm right" works out.
‘Expect’ is not the same as ‘command’.
I recall what Christ did in the Temple that was run like a business. Hmmmm
this police person was right. Our clergy became a businessmen. They are not shepherds anymore.