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Cardinal: Francis Pushes Catholics Back Into Catacombs

The Vatican must reconsider the June 2019 pastoral guidelines encouraging Chinese clergy to join the country’s official State church, Cardinal Joseph Zen told NCRegister.com (March 26).

Zen finds it “incredible” that the Holy See is pushing for unity “with the wrong church, with a schismatic church.”

He called the situation so serious that Catholics should retreat “to the catacombs,” as it is “useless to fight now.”
Ultraviolet
Don't drink the Kool-Aid "from Rome", Eric M It's loaded with fail. One experienced canon lawyer has already covered this subject in detail. Francis is legit even if we can't stand the guy.

canonlawmadeeasy.com/…/why-are-some-su…

...and when it comes to arguing against bloggers "from Rome", I've personally beaten one in particular enough times he "doesn't want to be contacted" anymore. …More
Don't drink the Kool-Aid "from Rome", Eric M It's loaded with fail. One experienced canon lawyer has already covered this subject in detail. Francis is legit even if we can't stand the guy.

canonlawmadeeasy.com/…/why-are-some-su…

...and when it comes to arguing against bloggers "from Rome", I've personally beaten one in particular enough times he "doesn't want to be contacted" anymore. That should tell you something because I'm NOT a canon lawyer. :D
eticacasanova
One canon lawyer said so, now, everything is said and settled..... And you have the nerve to go around saying the others commit the crime of ad hominem fallacy...
Ultraviolet
"One canon lawyer said so, now, everything is said and settled..."

It is until 1.) someone presents a sourch who factually refutes the points the canon lawyer raised and 2.) introduces a source whose own case is presented with equal support. You, however, have done neither 1.) nor 2.). All you're doing is spitting noise. So any implied criticism you have of my source is unsupported and …More
"One canon lawyer said so, now, everything is said and settled..."

It is until 1.) someone presents a sourch who factually refutes the points the canon lawyer raised and 2.) introduces a source whose own case is presented with equal support. You, however, have done neither 1.) nor 2.). All you're doing is spitting noise. So any implied criticism you have of my source is unsupported and therefore irrelevant.

"And you have the nerve to go around saying the others commit the crime of ad hominem fallacy..."

Y'know eticacasanova ... when you start talking logic like this, it's always a treat because you never know what you're talking about.

Ad Hominem fallacies are based on attacking a person instead of the information they supply. Funny you should mention it. That's what you're doing here. You're criticizing me instead of refuting my source.
Eric M
The difference between Cardinal Zen and Bergoglio is that Zen is a Legitimate Cardinal where Bergoglio is a papal impostor who was NEVER canononically elected. 🤭
Ultraviolet
Poor guy... I feel bad for him. Pope Francis is bad enough for the laity. We didn't take an oath of obedience to its leaders. Pity the guys who did.