Jungerheld
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chris griffin
If America was a Catholic/Christian country abortion would have been stopped in 2014 when these videos first appeared. America is doomed and God is allowing these babies to be murdered and mothers to commit murder and the Catholic President to be their enabler and promoter.
chris griffin
"To him who smote Egypt with their first-born; for his mercy endures for ever." Psalm 136:10
Ultraviolet
"If America was a Catholic/Christian country abortion would have been stopped in 2014 when these videos first appeared."

No True Scottsman Fallacy.

Given how many Catholics and Christians openly support or at least tacitly condone abortion, it doesn't automatically follow, either. There's a lot of truth to the old pro-abortion accusation "Yeah, just wait until YOUR daughter gets pregnant."

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"If America was a Catholic/Christian country abortion would have been stopped in 2014 when these videos first appeared."

No True Scottsman Fallacy.

Given how many Catholics and Christians openly support or at least tacitly condone abortion, it doesn't automatically follow, either. There's a lot of truth to the old pro-abortion accusation "Yeah, just wait until YOUR daughter gets pregnant."

"America is doomed..."

Well, if you want to get picky, the entire earth is doomed, but Murrica's gonna be around for quite a bit in the meantime. The UK has been in decline longer than we have and they're still limping along.
chris griffin
@ultraviolent

Hebrews 11:33-34 is what Catholics are capable of and could have done to stop abortion…

“Who by faith conquered kingdoms, wrought justice, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, recovered strength from weakness, became valiant in battle, put to flight the armies of foreigners”.

This is what will happen to Amer…More
@ultraviolent

Hebrews 11:33-34 is what Catholics are capable of and could have done to stop abortion…

“Who by faith conquered kingdoms, wrought justice, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, recovered strength from weakness, became valiant in battle, put to flight the armies of foreigners”.

This is what will happen to America and UK...

"By the blessing of the upright the city is exalted, But it is overthrown by the mouth of the wicked." Prov 11:11

I have it good authority, not Scotsmen. You should try it some time.
Jungerheld
I agree with your first statement but not that "America" is "doomed". You dont get to make that call. Please pray for the oral arguments on Dec. 1 in the Dobbs case.
Ultraviolet
"Hebrews 11:33-34 is what Catholics are capable of and could have done to stop abortion..." @chris griffin

Wrong. Hebrews 11:33-34 describes what was done by "Gedeon, Barac, Samson, Jephthe, David, Samuel, and the prophets..." in Heberew 11:32

It does NOT desribe what us rank and file "Catholics are capable of".

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"Hebrews 11:33-34 is what Catholics are capable of and could have done to stop abortion..." @chris griffin

Wrong. Hebrews 11:33-34 describes what was done by "Gedeon, Barac, Samson, Jephthe, David, Samuel, and the prophets..." in Heberew 11:32

It does NOT desribe what us rank and file "Catholics are capable of".

Church history contradicts your claim that Catholics are capable of such feats. Even the greatest saints in the Catholic Church still were martyred. They possessed exceptional Grace from God along with unshakeable faith. Which didn't.. "stopped the mouths of lions, Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword."

Several dozen saints were martyred by the Emperor Nero. Nero was fond of burning Christians alive. One notorious garden party Nero had was lit entirely with burning Christian martyrs. Their faith didn't stop him from burning them alive.

No one less than St. Peter, the first Pope personally appointed by Christ Himself was martyred by Nero, as was St. Paul.

...proving what worked for Gedeon, Barak, Samson, Jephthae, David, Samuel, and the prophets doesn't work for Catholic saints, much less the far more flawed Catholic laity.

Simply put, the authority you cite doesn't support your No True Scotsman Fallacy yesterday or your grandiose claims today. ;-)