"As Archbishop Viganò does a good job of making clear, in reality the Council was manipulated by true acts of sabotage in which organized acts of conspiracy, both internally and externally, were at …More
"As Archbishop Viganò does a good job of making clear, in reality the Council was manipulated by true acts of sabotage in which organized acts of conspiracy, both internally and externally, were at work. Among these, particular attention should be given to the organization called “Opus Angeli” which had among its primary leaders the ultra-progressive Belgian Cardinal Leon Suenens and the Brazilian bishop Helder Camara, one of the primary proponents of Liberation Theology (often praised by Francis), who attempted to influence the work and final results of the Council by any means possible, with the support of the powers of the media. And although they failed in their goal of having the Council approve their agenda of civil rights, the abolition of priestly celibacy, openness to the ordination of women, the reform of sexual morality opening the way for the use of contraceptives and the possibility of birth control by the state, they still successfully muddied the waters, polluting the …More
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10 Agosto 2020 Marco Tosatti Dear readers of Stilum Curiae, I never thought that the debate over the Second Vatican Council, initiated by Archbishop…
Ultraviolet
"like usual you avoid." -said the little worm deliberately hiding his replies way down in the comments stack @Be Ye Gutless. Conversation's up here, chum. Not down there. ;-)

In point of fact, I just presented a valid defense, so your claim "You can't defend the indefensible" fails thanks to sloppy reasoning.
Ultraviolet
Protip @Be Ye Separate If you're going to reply to me, why not be a darling and do it under the comment I made like a good boy? :P Or do you need a grown-up to help you doing even that?

"you slander" ---One of your favourite falsehoods.. Unflattering statements aren't slander if they're true. My claim against you is backed by Canon Law.

"Yet you don't state reasons why popes praying …More
Protip @Be Ye Separate If you're going to reply to me, why not be a darling and do it under the comment I made like a good boy? :P Or do you need a grown-up to help you doing even that?

"you slander" ---One of your favourite falsehoods.. Unflattering statements aren't slander if they're true. My claim against you is backed by Canon Law.

"Yet you don't state reasons why popes praying with snake worshippers, earth worshipers, Indian medicine men... are not excommunicated from the one true Apostolic Catholic Church."

Actually, I already did. A pity you weren't paying attention. I'll quote myself:

"The Church has the final say who is a Saint and who is Pope. You don't."

Since I need to spell it out for you, The Church decides who gets excommunicated. It isn't left to the laity.

While this is wasted on someone like you, in the case of JP II, The Church has already formally pronounced him a Saint. As I pointed out elsewhere, yes, Saints are not infallible.

They can, and no doubt have, advanced errors out of ignorance. But it is a contradiction in terms for a Saint of The Church to be either a heretic against the Church much less an apostate from The Church.
la verdad prevalece
The Magisterium declares all the acts of a heretic who usurps the papacy invalid and null. mercaba.org/MAGISTERIO/cum_ex_apostola…
la verdad prevalece
Bergoglians believe they have the power to excommunicate faithful Catholics while turning a blind eye to not see that their idol Bergoglio in Argentina committed the sin of heresy, schism and apostasy.
Ultraviolet
You contradict Canon Law. 751 @Be Ye Separate and brand yourself a schismatic. The Church has the final say who is a Saint and who is Pope. You don't. Your name suits you. You are separate from The Church.

I always love how you quote the "Holy Bible" and can't even give book, chapter, and verse. What's the matter, bunky? E. Michael Jones doesn't give those citations over on Culture Bores?

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You contradict Canon Law. 751 @Be Ye Separate and brand yourself a schismatic. The Church has the final say who is a Saint and who is Pope. You don't. Your name suits you. You are separate from The Church.

I always love how you quote the "Holy Bible" and can't even give book, chapter, and verse. What's the matter, bunky? E. Michael Jones doesn't give those citations over on Culture Bores?

Funny you should quote Galatian 1:8 since YOU are constantly preaching the gospel of E. Michael Jones and not the gospel of Christ. YOU are anathema even if you're too stupid to realize it.
Be Ye Separate
"Saint John Paul II was not even capable of curbing and containing the “spirit of Assisi” and all of its excesses.." Nonsense.
"Jp2 was the head of this demonic pagan event. JP2 worshipped with: "An African animist snake worshiper the Pope met last year on a visit to Togo..." (LA Times)
JP2 and False Francis both led demonic pagans in worship. Therefore they are both excommunicated from the …More
"Saint John Paul II was not even capable of curbing and containing the “spirit of Assisi” and all of its excesses.." Nonsense.
"Jp2 was the head of this demonic pagan event. JP2 worshipped with: "An African animist snake worshiper the Pope met last year on a visit to Togo..." (LA Times)
JP2 and False Francis both led demonic pagans in worship. Therefore they are both excommunicated from the Church, Almighty God curses them.
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St. Paul," But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema.". (Holy Bible)
F M Shyanguya
Attack on the great and saintly Pontiff is always a flag for me.
Be Ye Separate
@F M Shyanguya Then explain to me how JP2's actions at Assisi 1986 with pagans, at our Churches is acceptable. A pope is not above Christ the King.
Be Ye Separate
@F M Shyanguya You explain to me how 1986 Assisi is Catholic and i will retract my statement and follow the Church.
F M Shyanguya
@Be Ye Separate He is now a canonized saint in the Church.
V.R.S.
@@F M Shyanguya
"great and saintly" - Men who have been demolishing the Church for years say so. Jorge Mario Bergoglio declared it. Who am I to trust that declaration?
F M Shyanguya
@V.R.S. An act of the Church. As Catholics, we believe in the Church. Cf our Creed.
V.R.S.
@F M Shyanguya
Oh, yes I hold fast to the Catholic Creed. An I believe in one Catholic Church based on the unity of the Catholic Fath, Holy Sacraments and the Petrine rock.That's exactly why I deem kissing the blasphemous Quran as an unthinkable abomination and the sign of impiety or insanity (tertium non datur) not of "greatness" and "sanctity". The same is with events like Assisi, visiting …More
@F M Shyanguya
Oh, yes I hold fast to the Catholic Creed. An I believe in one Catholic Church based on the unity of the Catholic Fath, Holy Sacraments and the Petrine rock.That's exactly why I deem kissing the blasphemous Quran as an unthinkable abomination and the sign of impiety or insanity (tertium non datur) not of "greatness" and "sanctity". The same is with events like Assisi, visiting synagogues and pagan temples. I'm sorry but you won't convince me to pervert my Faith and change my mind inthe above matters simply by stating that the man of notorious errors and scandals declared, as he said himself -fallibly, that there were heroic virtues somewhere there.
F M Shyanguya
@V.R.S. Not here to change your mind. After all it is you making comments on my posts and comments.
Be Ye Separate
@Ultraviolet You slander, yet you don't state reasons why popes praying with snake worshippers, earth worshipers, Indian medicine men... are not excommunicated from the one true Apostolic Catholic Church.
V.R.S.
@F M Shyanguya
I replied to your comment. However, it seems that hatred of my old foe removed my comment together with three posts I submitted today.
OK - you wont convince me I wont convince you, so better lets' pray for each other.
F M Shyanguya
@V.R.S. Saw your reply. Didn’t see the need to respond to it as I believe we communicated clearly to each other as to where we each stand.

Prayers, yes, and always, and now, more than ever.
Be Ye Separate
@Ultraviolet You can't defend the indefensible, like usual you avoid.
V.R.S.
@F M Shyanguya
One of posts deleted by the aforesaid hater.Maybe the content will interest you: Treuga idolorum [reposted after deletion by the anonymous local hater]
Treuga idolorum is "truce of the idols" in Latin. In opposite to the historical Treuga Dei i.e. "truce of God".
F M Shyanguya
@Be Ye Separate

Cf Excommunicated Sacramento priest rejects Pope Francis, misconduct allegations

An example of a position against a pope that was actually a cover for something amiss in the person opposing.
V.R.S.
Opus Angeli? What about Opus Dei?
F M Shyanguya
❌Viganò❌