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Lionel L. Andrades
The Catechism of Pope Pius X is Feeneyite.It supports Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston and contradicts Pope Pius XII and the Archbishop of Boston. See numbers 24Q and 27Q.Confusion today comes with 29Q. It can be interpreted as being visible or invisible.

(OCTOBER 9, 2016)
The Catechism of Pope Pius X is Feeneyite.It supports Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston and contradicts Pope Pius XII and the Archb…More
The Catechism of Pope Pius X is Feeneyite.It supports Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston and contradicts Pope Pius XII and the Archbishop of Boston. See numbers 24Q and 27Q.Confusion today comes with 29Q. It can be interpreted as being visible or invisible.

(OCTOBER 9, 2016)
The Catechism of Pope Pius X is Feeneyite.It supports Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston and contradicts Pope Pius XII and the Archbishop of Boston. See numbers 24Q and27Q.1
The confusion today comes with
29Q.2 It can be interpreted as being visible or invisible.
If 29Q refers to visible cases cases for you, people personally known who are saved in invincible ignorance and without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church, then 29Q contradicts 24Q and 27Q.
This I call the
Cushingite interpretation of the Catechism of Pope Pius X.For Cushingites there are known exceptions to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.The dogma EENS is no more like it was for the 16th century missionaries. It is a rupture with St. Robert Bellamine, St. Francis of Assisi and St. Francis Xavier.
For me 29Q refers to an invisible case.So it is not an exception to 24Q and 27Q.So the Catechism of Pope Pius X is Feeneyite and not Cushingite for me.
All need to be living member of the Church to avoid the fires of Hell and no one can be saved outside the Church.
It is with this rational reasoning that I interpret Vatican Council II as not being a rupture with the Catechism of Pope Pius X. It does not contradict the dogma
extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to the 16th century missionaries.
Vatican Council II also does not contradict the Syllabus of Errors and the rest of Tradition.
For the traditionalists and the Vatican Curia, Vatican Council II is a rupture with Tradition since Lumen Gentium 16( invincible ignorance) refers to a visible case.The error emerges with their inference.
For me the Catholic Church teaches that all Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims, Orthodox Christians, Protestants,atheists and other non Catholics,need to be incorporated into the Church as members for salvation.
-Lionel Andrades
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24 Q. To be saved, is it enough to be any sort of member of the Catholic Church?


A. No, to be saved it is not enough to be any sort of member of the Catholic Church; it is necessary to be a living member.

27 Q. Can one be saved outside the Catholic, Apostolic and Roman Church?

A. No, no one can be saved outside the Catholic, Apostolic Roman Church, just as no one could be saved from the flood outside the Ark of Noah, which was a figure of the Church
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29 Q. But if a man through no fault of his own is outside the Church, can he be saved?

A. If he is outside the Church through no fault of his, that is, if he is in good faith, and if he has received Baptism, or at least has the implicit desire of Baptism; and if, moreover, he sincerely seeks the truth and does God's will as best he can such a man is indeed separated from the body of the Church, but is united to the soul of the Church and consequently is on the way of salvation
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Holy Cannoli
I am not that interested in your opinions.

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rhemes1582
@ H.C.
Thanks for the invite, but I am not that interested in your opinions.
Lionel L. Andrades
WHAT IS BEING CATHOLIC FOR YOU
Cannoli
'someone claiming to be Catholic'
Lionel:
Here we have TradCatKnight a sedevacantist posting and you have no problem.He interprets Vatican Council II with irrational Cushingism and then rejects the Council.
Then we have so many SSPX sources posting who do not accept Vatican Council II and you have no problem.
We have you Cannoli interpreting accepting …
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WHAT IS BEING CATHOLIC FOR YOU
Cannoli
'someone claiming to be Catholic'
Lionel:
Here we have TradCatKnight a sedevacantist posting and you have no problem.He interprets Vatican Council II with irrational Cushingism and then rejects the Council.
Then we have so many SSPX sources posting who do not accept Vatican Council II and you have no problem.
We have you Cannoli interpreting accepting Vatican Council II with an irrational premise ( visible cases of being saved in invincible ignorance-LG 16) and non heretical conclusion ( so Vatican Council II is a rupture with the dogma EENS and Tradition since there are 'visible exceptions') and this is normal for you.
We have cardinals and the popes changing moral and salvation theology with philosophical subjectivism and you have nothing to say.
John Allen at Crux sends a message saying that he has no decided-position on Vatican Council II being interpreted with Feeneyism instead of Cushingism ( he probably does not understand what I am saying) and you have no comment.
I have quoted all magisterial and Church teachings which I accept and interpret with a rational theology and you consider me as not being a Catholic.
What is your concept of being Catholic. Be precise. Explain your self with theology and Catholic doctrines.
-Lionel Andrades
Lionel L. Andrades
Obviously, the continual reading of anti-Catholic material written on the internet by someone claiming to be Catholic - such as Pope Lionel the Humble - is NOT morally necessary and, being a clear proximate occasion of sin, ought to resolutely be avoided.
Lionel:
You could set the lead and restore your personal peace.
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Lionel L. Andrades
Is a Catholic obligated to avoid the near occasions of sin found on the Internet and written by Anti-Catholics i.e., individuals such as Pope Lionel the Humble with his heretical posts that denigrates and encourages others to reject the teaching authority (Magisterium) of the Catholic Church?

Lionel:
I have quoted Church teachings and Church documents which I affirm. I am not denying Vatican …
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Is a Catholic obligated to avoid the near occasions of sin found on the Internet and written by Anti-Catholics i.e., individuals such as Pope Lionel the Humble with his heretical posts that denigrates and encourages others to reject the teaching authority (Magisterium) of the Catholic Church?

Lionel:
I have quoted Church teachings and Church documents which I affirm. I am not denying Vatican Council II, like the traditionalists, nor am I denying the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, like you and the liberals, John Allen and the Crux journalists included.
I am pointing out the error so that the present magisterium can acknowledge it and correct it.
They can interpret magisterial documents rationally like me. They can replace irrational Cushingism with rational and traditional Feeneyism.
They can admit that Pope Pius XII, the Holy Office 1949 and the Archbishop of Boston made an objective mistake in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case.
As a result of the mistake( considering invisible cases as being visible) a new theology was created supported by Ratzinger and Rahner which creates the hermeneutic of rupture in the interpretation of Vatican Council II. If the traditionalists and the sedevancantists avoid this theology they will not have a problem with Vatican Council II.
It is you Cannoli and the other liberals who will then have a problem.Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) will then support the old ecclesiology which you'll want to do away with and yet talk of 'the magisterium'.
Catholics will realize that you liberals were quoting Vatican Council II for your new non traditional doctrines, only by mixing up what is invisible as being visible.Then it will not be possible to carry on this deception once the 'trick' is known to people in general.
-Lionel Andrades
Lionel L. Andrades
Correction
2.The present magisterium with this irrationality is also rejecting the consistent magisterium of the Church over the centuries which knew that the baptism of desire etc referred to only hypothetical cases and NOT TO personally known people.
Lionel L. Andrades
Holy Cannoli 36 minutes ago

The rigorist position of Fr. Feeney (that all must be actual members of the Catholic Church to be saved - EENS) has been condemned by the Magisterium.

Lionel:

1.It has been condemned by the present magisterium which assumes that the baptism of desire etc refers to known and visible cases in 2016 which are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This is …
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Holy Cannoli 36 minutes ago

The rigorist position of Fr. Feeney (that all must be actual members of the Catholic Church to be saved - EENS) has been condemned by the Magisterium.

Lionel:

1.It has been condemned by the present magisterium which assumes that the baptism of desire etc refers to known and visible cases in 2016 which are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This is irrational.There cannot be any known exceptions to the dogma EENS in 2016.

2.The present magisterium with this irrationality is also rejecting the consistent magisterium of the Church over the centuries which knew that the baptism of desire etc referred to only hypothetical cases and personally known people.

3.The present magisterium with this reasoning ( invisible cases are visible) is also condemning the three Church Councils which defined the dogma EENS ex cathedra and did not mention any exceptions in the text.

4.The present magisterium with this objective error is also forcing Catholics to interpret Vatican Council II with an irrationality. Lumen Gentium 16( invincible ignorance) is seen as a visible case in 2016 which is an exception to the dogma EENS as interpreted by the 16th century missionaries.

5.All this nonsense, this fantasy theology, this deception and outright lieing cannot be the teaching of the Holy Spirit but of infiltrators in the Church, Masons and members of secret societies who want to hit at the doctrinal foundations of the Church.

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It is ironic that precisely those who know their obligation to remain united to the Magisterium, and thus on whom this doctrine is morally binding, keep themselves from union with the Roman See on this point.

Lionel:

It is ironic how the Holy See even after being informed about this error will not respond with a correction and clarification.

It is ironic how after seeing that the Principle of Non Contradiction has been blatantly violated no one from the CDF/Ecclesia Dei offers an apology and agrees to make a correction.

It is ironic how even after I have quoted Church documents and teachings supporting myself you will not acknowledge that I am a Catholic or affirm the dogma EENS as I do and as was done by the saints and popes over the centuries.

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Answered by Colin B. Donovan, STL. Colin B. Donovan, STL is Vice President for Theology at EWTN. A layman, he has the Licentiate in Sacred Theology, with a specialization in moral theology, from the Pontifical University of St. Thomas Aquinas (Angelicum) in Rome.

Lionel:

He is a liberal. He will not directly respond to the points mentioned here.Years back I wrote to him.

It is easy to say the magisterium teaches this.

Today we have the magisterium under Pope Francis changing Church teaching on morals, salvation, the Eucharist....


-Lionel Andrades
Holy Cannoli
The rigorist position of Fr. Feeney (that all must be actual members of the Catholic Church to be saved - EENS) has been condemned by the Magisterium. It is ironic that precisely those who know their obligation to remain united to the Magisterium, and thus on whom this doctrine is morally binding, keep themselves from union with the Roman See on this point.

Answered by Colin B. Donovan, STL. …More
The rigorist position of Fr. Feeney (that all must be actual members of the Catholic Church to be saved - EENS) has been condemned by the Magisterium. It is ironic that precisely those who know their obligation to remain united to the Magisterium, and thus on whom this doctrine is morally binding, keep themselves from union with the Roman See on this point.

Answered by Colin B. Donovan, STL. Colin B. Donovan, STL is Vice President for Theology at EWTN. A layman, he has the Licentiate in Sacred Theology, with a specialization in moral theology, from the Pontifical University of St. Thomas Aquinas (Angelicum) in Rome.
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Here are the six issues that are impacting the status of the Catholic Church in the world today.

Sexual scandal
- The situation has reached epic proportions as more and more charges are being logged against priests, bishops, cardinals, and more. The most disgraceful aspect of this sordid side of the church is the cover-up.

Celibacy – The question is being asked - Is the church, by mandating celibacy, in effect, encouraging aberrant behavior such as pedophilia and physical contact of priests with men and women?

Birth control - Why wouldn’t the church allow safe and effective methods to control the size of families (and population)? Why would the church object to birth control in the prevention of disease including AIDS and STDs.

Homosexuality - As developed nations increase the tolerance for alternative lifestyles, the church remains adamantly against same sex marriages.

Female priests - The church has resisted the ordination of female priests. Most other religions have already begun to accept women.

Premarital sex - This restriction may be the most glaring example of how far behind the times the church really is.

The above points are the very serious issues affecting the Catholic Church today throughout the entire world. EENS (extra Ecclesiam nulla salus - "outside the Church there is no salvation") is nowhere even close to the importance, relevance and timeliness of the above issues. Indeed, the EENS rigorist position has been condemned by the Magisterium and its adherence by a small group of radicals can lead to not only their own perdition but additionally the perdition of others who these radicals induce with their falsehoods.

Why in the world then would someone be so consumed with EENS as to post about such an irrelevant and morally dangerous topic (one that so very few Catholics care about) each and every day?

The Answer
Holy Cannoli
Is a Catholic obligated to avoid the near occasions of sin found on the Internet and written by Anti-Catholics i.e., individuals such as Pope Lionel the Humble with his heretical posts that denigrates and encourages others to reject the teaching authority (Magisterium) of the Catholic Church?

It is certain that one who is in the presence of a proximate occasion of sin is at once bound to remove …More
Is a Catholic obligated to avoid the near occasions of sin found on the Internet and written by Anti-Catholics i.e., individuals such as Pope Lionel the Humble with his heretical posts that denigrates and encourages others to reject the teaching authority (Magisterium) of the Catholic Church?

It is certain that one who is in the presence of a proximate occasion of sin is at once bound to remove it. A refusal on the part of a penitent to do so would make it imperative for the confessor to deny absolution. Theologians agree that one is not obligated to shun the proximate but necessary occasions of sin. Nemo tenetur ad impossibile (no one is bound to do what is impossible).

The issue is freely and deliberately putting oneself into the danger of sin with the exception of moral necessity. What is required is the employment of such means as will make the danger of sin remote. The difficulty is to determine when a proximate occasion is to be regarded as morally necessary.

Obviously, the continual reading of anti-Catholic material written on the internet by someone claiming to be Catholic - such as Pope Lionel the Humble - is NOT morally necessary and, being a clear proximate occasion of sin, ought to resolutely be avoided.
Lionel L. Andrades
OCTOBER 7, 2016

John Allen at Crux says he has no position on this issue: Vatican Council II can be interpreted with Feeneyism instead of the usual irrational Cushingism ?

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Lionel L. Andrades
JOHN ALLEN AT CRUX RESPONDS

to me

Thanks for writing Crux. To the best of my knowledge, certainly not in the six months I’ve been editor, we’ve never touched on the Feeney case, so I’m not sure which “position” you’re referring to. In any event, Crux as such has no editorial line at all – what we have are the positions of our individual authors.

JLA

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JOHN ALLEN AT CRUX RESPONDS

to me

Thanks for writing Crux. To the best of my knowledge, certainly not in the six months I’ve been editor, we’ve never touched on the Feeney case, so I’m not sure which “position” you’re referring to. In any event, Crux as such has no editorial line at all – what we have are the positions of our individual authors.

JLA

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Lionel Andrades

8:27 PM (1 minute ago)

to John

You have been interpreting Vatican Council II with Cushingism i.e there are known exceptions (LG 16, LG 8 etc) in Vatican Council II to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). This has been your position even before you were at Crux.
Even now you are not saying that Vatican Council II can be interpreted with Feeneyism i.e there are no visible exceptions mentioned in the Council-text, to the Feeneyite interpretation of EENS.
Similarly you accept the dogma EENS as having exceptions in the baptism of desire etc as suggested in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston.
This has been magisterial for you and you have always supported this.
So there is a choice. We can interpret Vatican Council II in which LG 16 ( invincible ignorance) refers to visible- in- the- flesh cases in 2016 and so it is relevant to EENS or like me, we can interpret LG 16 as referring to an invisible case and so it is not relevant or an exception to the centuries old interpretation of the dogma EENS.
Isn't Crux's position clear on this issue?
In Christ
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Lionel L. Andrades
Ask Edward Pentin and John Allen if we can interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism instead of irrational Cushingism

I have affirm Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14), Catechism of the Catholic Church (1257,845,846), Nicene Creed ( I believe in one (known) baptism for the forgiveness of sins( and not three), the Athanasius Creed ( outside the Church there is no salvation), the dogma extra …More
Ask Edward Pentin and John Allen if we can interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism instead of irrational Cushingism

I have affirm Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14), Catechism of the Catholic Church (1257,845,846), Nicene Creed ( I believe in one (known) baptism for the forgiveness of sins( and not three), the Athanasius Creed ( outside the Church there is no salvation), the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), the Catechism of Pope Pius X and the first part of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which supports Feeneyite EENS.I am not a sedevacantist nor a traditionalist who rejects Vatican Council II. I am a Catholic.
I interpret all these documents and Church teachings with Feeneyism while the Vatican Curia/CDF/Ecclesia does it with Cushngism.
You could ask Archbishop Guido Pozzo if Vatican Council II can be interpreted with Cushingism or with Feeneyism and if Cushingism can be replaced with Feeneyism, by all.
John Allen at Crux could ask the CDF/Ecclesia Dei if I have permission to interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism ( there are no visible exceptions to EENS) and if you also could do the same.


Ask Edward Pentin if Church documents and teachings- Nicene Creed, dogma e xtra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS),Vatican Council II, Catechism of the Catholic Church, Letter of the Holy Office 1949 can be interpreted with the theology of Feeneyism or Cushingism and one of them is irrational .
Once the problem has been identified it can be solved.
They simply have to interpret these magisterial teachings and documents with traditional Feeneyism.This means they have to avoid the New Theology which has come in a direct way from the second part of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.

An objective mistake was made in the Letter when it assumed hypothetical cases were not hypothetical but objectively visible in the present times.The same error was repeated in Vatican Council II and so there are superficial passages ( LG 14,LG 16 etc) which create ambiguity.
The same error and ambiguity is also there in Dominus Iesus and Redemptoris Missio which are Cushingite and not Feeneyite.There are Feeneyite passages in them but over all the theology is Cushingite.


The SSPX needs to be aware of this and correct their doctrinal position on Vatican Council II.They need to admit that Vatican Council II Cushingite is a rupture with Tradition but Vatican Council II Feeneyite is in line with the dogma EENS as it was known to the 16th century missionaries.

So when Pope Benedict XVI a few months back said that EENS was no more like it was in the 16th century this was based on Cushingite theology, the new theology which he and Fr.Karl Rahner S.J advocated.
Without this theology, EENS is once again today (2016) as it was for the Jesuit missionaries in the Middle Ages.

The SSPX must ask Pope Benedict XVI to come back to the Faith.Rome must come back to the Faith as Archbishop Lefebvre wanted.They can do this by interpreting Vatican Council II and other magisterial teachings with rational Feeneyism.


Ask Archbishop Guido Pozzo if Vatican Council II can be interpreted with Cushingism( as done by the Vatican Curia) or with Feeneyism( as I interpret the Council) and if Cushingism can be replaced with Feeneyism, by all.
-Lionel Andrades
Holy Cannoli
Gloria.tv has its own example of a mentally unstable individual seen in his bizarre postings including the ones on this thread. Although there may be other 'sick' individuals who post and there may have been others posting here in the past, currently, the dominant mentally unstable individual is Pope Lionel the Humble, who posts daily his criticism of the teaching authority of the church along …More
Gloria.tv has its own example of a mentally unstable individual seen in his bizarre postings including the ones on this thread. Although there may be other 'sick' individuals who post and there may have been others posting here in the past, currently, the dominant mentally unstable individual is Pope Lionel the Humble, who posts daily his criticism of the teaching authority of the church along with his disparaging of well established and well respected Catholic internet sites such as EWTN, Catholic Answers, Crux, et. al.

Without exception, everyone wants to have meaning in their lives...EVERYONE. Although it's impossible to 100% accurately diagnose an individual over the Internet, I now believe his pathology goes beyond simple obsessive-compulsive disorder. A chronic depression caused by repeated rejections and expulsion from religious educational institutions has lead to this creature being a functional bipolar combined with delusions of grandeur in which Pope Lionel the Humble believes he possesses superior qualities such as genius or, more accurately in this case, the ability to speak with the authority and in place of the Magisterium of the Catholic Church.

Yes, that's correct.

Pope Lionel believes HE SPEAKS FOR THE MAGISTERIUM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. This ridiculous belief has led him to have written the following: “The present magisterium with the use of an irrationality has not only promoted a lie but has also contradicted and rejected the teachings of the consistent magisterium of the Church.”. In his impaired mind, his heretical postings at Gloria.tv gives meaning to an otherwise meaningless life.

Although Pope Lionel claims that his bizarre rantings about the “illogical, irrational, non traditional and heretical“ Magisterium of the Catholic Church are not heretical and are not sinful, he is wrong. Demonstrating the degree to which a human mind can degenerate, Pope Lionel the Humble wages his imaginary daily battle against an imaginary opponent in which he defends an unimportant cause that is irrelevant to everyone except himself. What could be crazier than that?

Mental disease can be a mitigating factor in the gravity of any sin. However, mental instability does not invalidate the fact of Pope Lionel's obvious mental instability. That extreme instability is on display at Gloria.tv for everyone to see each and every day including a clear example on this thread.

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
NIH (National Institute of Mental Health)
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rhemes: I know you're around lurking somewhere. Do not hesitate in posting your musings to me. I can assure you that, although we've had our 'slight differences', I've mellowed quite a bit in these past few years. I can now tolerate half-wits much better than I ever did before. 🤗
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Lionel L. Andrades
I affirm Church teachings and magisterial documents with Feeneyism the present magisterium does it with Cushingism

Cannoli:

a pseudo catholic who, like the Trojan Horse, is posing as a faithful Catholic in order to gain credibility among Catholics at this site
Lionel:
I interpret the following terms with Feeneyism and the present magisrterium, Crux and the SSPX does so with Cushingism.The presen…More
I affirm Church teachings and magisterial documents with Feeneyism the present magisterium does it with Cushingism

Cannoli:

a pseudo catholic who, like the Trojan Horse, is posing as a faithful Catholic in order to gain credibility among Catholics at this site
Lionel:
I interpret the following terms with Feeneyism and the present magisrterium, Crux and the SSPX does so with Cushingism.The present magisterium, the liberals, sedevacantists and the SSPX could agree or disagree with me here.I use Feeneyism and the SSPX uses Cushingism.
For me the Baptism of Desire is Feeneyite and for the SSPX it is Cushingite.
For me Invincible Ignorance is Feeneyite and for the SSPX it is Cushingite.

For me Vatican Council II is Feeneyite and for the SSPX it is Cushingite.

For me Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus is Feeneyite and for the SSPX it is Cushingite.

For me the Nicene Creed is Feeneyite and for the SSPX it is Cushingite.

For me the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston is Feeneyite and for the SSPX it is Cushingite.

I avoid the New Theology, while the SSPX uses it.

For me the Catechism of the Catholic Church is Feeneyite and for the SSPX it is Cushingite.
-Lionel Andrades

TERMS EXPLAINED

Feeneyism: It is the old theology and philosophical reaoning which says there are no known exceptions past or present, to the dogma EENS.There are no explicit cases to contradict the traditional interpretation of EENS.

Cushingism: It is the new theology and philosophical reasoning, which assumes there are known exceptions, past and present, to the dogma EENS, on the need for all to formally enter the Church.It assumes that the baptism of desire etc are not hypothetical but objectively known.In principle hypothetical cases are objective in the present times.

Baptism of Desire (Feeneyite): It refers to the hypothetical case of an unknown catechumen who desires the baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is saved. Since this is an invisible case in our reality it is not relevant to the dogma EENS.

Baptism of Desire (Cushingite): It refers to the known case of a catechumen who desires the baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is saved. Since this is a visible case or the SSPX it is relevant to the dogma EENS.

Invincible Ignorance ( Feeneyite): This refers to the hypothetical case of someone allegedly saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church, since he was in ignorance.

Invincible Ignorance (Cushingite): This refers to the explicit case of someone allegedly saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church, since he was in ignorance.Since it is an exception to the dogma EENS it is assumed to be objectively known in particular cases.This reasoning is irrational.

Council of Florence.One of the three Councils which defined the dogma EENS.It did not mention any exceptions.It did not mention the baptism of desire. It was Feeneyite.

Liberal theologians:They reinterpreted the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance, as objective cases, known in the present times.

Vatican Council II (Cushingite): It refers to the interpretation of Vatican Council II with Cushingism.LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc refer not to hypothetical but known cases in the present times. So Vatican Council II emerges as a break with the dogma EENS.

Vatican Council II (Feeneyite):It refers to the interpretation of Vatican Council II with Feeneyism.LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc refer to hypothetical cases, which are unknown personally in the present times.So Vatican Council II is not a break with EENS, the Syllabus of Errors, ecumenism of return, the Nicene Creed ( Feeneyite-one baptism),the teaching on the Social Reign of Christ the King over all political legislation and the non separation of Church and State( since all need to convert into the Church to avoid Hell).

Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston. It assumed hypothetical cases were defacto known in the present times. So it presented the baptism of desire etc as an explicit exception, to the traditional interpretation of the dogma EENS.It censured Fr.Leonard Feeney and the St.Benedict Center.Since they did not assume that the baptism of desire referred to a visible instead of invisible case.The Letter made the baptism of desire etc relevant to EENs.From the second part of this Letter has emerged the New Theology.


Letter of the Holy Office 1949 ( Feeneyite). It means accepting the Letter as Feeneyite based on the first part .It supports Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.The traditional interpretatiion of the dogma EENS does not mention any exceptions.

Letter of the Holy Office ( Cushingite). It is based on the second part of the Letter.It rejects the traditional interpretation of EENS. Since it considers the baptism of desire ( Cushingite-explicit) and being saved in invincible ignorance ( Cushingite-explicit cases) as being exceptions to EENS ( Feeneyite).It worngly assumes hypothetical cases are objectively visible and so they are exceptions to the first part of the Letter.

Baltimore Catechism. It assumed that the desire for the baptism of an unknown catechumen, who dies before receiving it and was saved, was a baptism like the baptism of water. So it was placed in the Baptism Section of the catechism. In other words it was wrongly assumed that the baptism of desire is visible and repeatable like the baptism of water or that we can administer it like the baptism of water.
(The Baltimore Catechism is accepted with the confusion)
Catechism of Pope X. It followed the Baltimore Catechism and placed the baptism of desire in the Baptism Section.


Nicene Creed ( Cushingite) It says 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' and means there are more than three known baptisms. They are water, blood, desire, seeds of the Word etc.

Nicene Creed ( Feeneyite). It says 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins and means there is one known baptism the baptism of water.

New Theology: It refers to the new theology in the Catholic Church based on hypothetical cases being objective in the present times.So it eliminates the dogma EENS.With the dogma EENS made obsolete the ecclesiology of the Church changes. There is a new ecclesiology which is a break with Tradition.

Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus ( Cushingite) .It refers to the dogma but with exceptions.All do not need to defacto convert into the Church in the present times, since there are exceptions.

Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus ( Feeneyite).It refers to the dogma as it was interpreted over the centuries.There are no known exceptions to all needing to formally enter the Church, with faith and baptism, to avoid Hell.

Catechism of the Catholic Church ( Cushingite).CCC 1257 contradicts the Principle of Non Contraduction. Also CCC 848 is based on the new theology and so is a rupture with the dogma EENS( Feeneyite).

Catechism of the Catholic Church ( Feeneyite).CCC 1257 does not contradict the Principle of Non Contradiction since there are no known exceptions to all needing the baptism of water for salvation. There are no known exceptions, since God is not limited to the Sacraments.
When CCC 846 states all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church,CCC 846 does not contradict the dogmatic teaching on all needin to formally enter the Church. CCC 846 does not contradict Ad Gentes 7 which states all need faith and baptism for salvation.

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SUNDAY, AUGUST 21, 2016

Don Aldo Rossi, SSPX Prior had nothing to say to me today morning

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AUGUST 19, 2016
No denial from the SSPX: dogmas and doctrine changed
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If you name important people who reason, like you, it would not change anything.Since you all would be violating the Principle of Non-Contradictioneucharistandmission.blogspot.it/…/if-you-name-imp…
Lionel L. Andrades
I have shown how the New Theology is irrational and contradicts the Principle of Non Contradiction. No one has denied this.

Cannoli:
Would a faithful Catholic ever dare to write the following:

Item #1) the interpretation of the living magisterium is irrational.
Lionel:
I have shown how the New Theology is irrational and contradicts the Principle of Non Contradiction. No one has denied this.
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I have shown how the New Theology is irrational and contradicts the Principle of Non Contradiction. No one has denied this.

Cannoli:
Would a faithful Catholic ever dare to write the following:

Item #1) the interpretation of the living magisterium is irrational.
Lionel:
I have shown how the New Theology is irrational and contradicts the Principle of Non Contradiction. No one has denied this.
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and

Item #2) the living Magisterium is irrational.Their conclusion is non traditional and heretical.
Lionel:
The present Magisterium is a rupture with the past Magisterium which is also the living Magisterium for me.

The past Magisterium ( before the Council of Trent) did not violate the Principle of Non Contradiction with the use of an irrational premise ( visible cases of the baptism of desire in the present times) and false conclusion ( which are explicit exceptions to the centuries old interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.)

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Obviously no faithful Catholic would ever even consider writing such anti-Catholic merde but Gloria.tv's very own super 'catholic' Pope Lionel the Humble would.

Lionel:
I think as a faithful Catholic I must write the truth and not promote a lie.
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A faithful Catholic knows that it is a serious sin to not only doubt the teaching authority of the Church (the Magisterium) but the sin would be compounded by attempting to induce others to also commit the same sin as is being done here on Gloria.tv.


Lionel:
The present magisterium with the use of an irrationality has not only promoted a lie but has also contradicted and rejected the teachings of the consistent magisterium of the Church.The magisterium of the Church over the centuries has been discarded by a Letter from the Holy Office 149 which assumes invisible cases are visible in the present times.This is a factual error and not just a theological error. It can be corrected and it needs to be corrected.
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Therefore, his bizarre, repetitive, and convoluted writings either come from a once Catholic but now: 1) a pseudo catholic who, like the
Trojan Horse, is posing as a faithful Catholic in order to gain credibility among Catholics at this site.

Lionel:
I have quoted you all the magisterial documents which I affirm as a Catholic.It is not enough for you?
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Or, the writings come from: 2) a non-Catholic individual posing (again like the
Trojan Horse of Greek mythology) in order to mislead Catholics into thinking that his own views are those of a Catholic who is “better informed” than ordinary faithful Catholics.
Lionel:
I affirm the centuries old interpretation of the dogma EENS in harmony with Vatican Council II interpreted without the New Theology.I am not proposing any thing new.Instead the present magisterium's interpretation of Vatican Council II and the dogma EENS, is an innovation.
You and Crux also support this innovative theology.

-Lionel Andrades
Holy Cannoli
Would a faithful Catholic ever dare to write the following:

Item #1)
the interpretation of the living magisterium is irrational.
and
Item #2)
the living Magisterium is irrational.Their conclusion is non traditional and heretical.

Obviously no faithful Catholic would ever even consider writing such anti-Catholic merde but Gloria.tv's very own super 'catholic' Pope Lionel the Humble would.

A …
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Would a faithful Catholic ever dare to write the following:

Item #1)
the interpretation of the living magisterium is irrational.
and
Item #2)
the living Magisterium is irrational.Their conclusion is non traditional and heretical.

Obviously no faithful Catholic would ever even consider writing such anti-Catholic merde but Gloria.tv's very own super 'catholic' Pope Lionel the Humble would.

A faithful Catholic knows that it is a serious sin to not only doubt the teaching authority of the Church (the Magisterium) but the sin would be compounded by attempting to induce others to also commit the same sin as is being done here on Gloria.tv.

Therefore, his bizarre, repetitive, and convoluted writings either come from a once Catholic but now: 1) a pseudo catholic who, like the
Trojan Horse, is posing as a faithful Catholic in order to gain credibility among Catholics at this site.

Or, the writings come from: 2) a non-Catholic individual posing (again like the
Trojan Horse of Greek mythology) in order to mislead Catholics into thinking that his own views are those of a Catholic who is “better informed” than ordinary faithful Catholics.

Or, these writings (often full of blues and reds and yellows and bolds and italics and other attention seeking gimmicks): 3) are made by an obsessive-compulsive mentally unbalance individual who is in serious need of professional psychiatric aid
.

The fundamental reason for such behavior?
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

jd1961 😘 😘 😘
Lionel L. Andrades
jd1961

Crux's crooked policy

Crux and the other heretical publications are hiding the truth about the Fr.Leonard Feeney case.The baptism of desire was never explicit and so never was an exception to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).There was no known salvation outside the Catholic Church and there never could be known salvation outside the Church …More
jd1961

Crux's crooked policy

Crux and the other heretical publications are hiding the truth about the Fr.Leonard Feeney case.The baptism of desire was never explicit and so never was an exception to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).There was no known salvation outside the Catholic Church and there never could be known salvation outside the Church for us human beings.The Holy Office 1949 and Pope Pius XII made an objective mistake.
The Crux correspondents for political reasons choose to look the other way and so they continue the deception on Vatican Council II.
If John Allen and the others admit that Pius XII was wrong and the baptism of desire(BOD) being invisible and unknown in personal cases, could not be relevant to the the dogma EENS,which says all need to be incorporated into the Church as members - then it means the interpretation of Vatican Council II changes.

There cannot be any exception mentioned in Vatican Council II to the strict interpretation of EENS.
So Crux repeats the familiar political Left position on 'Feeneyism' and 'Feeneyites', knowing that the 16th century missionaries were Feeneyites.Even St. Thomas Aquinas was a Feeneyite , when the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) refers to invisible cases known only to God.
Crux says 'let's drop the obsession with criticism of Pope Francis' 1 even though the pope has changed doctrine and practise and supported a new salvation and moral theology.Crux also chooses to overlook the deception of the ecclesiastics in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case.
Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani's Letter(1949) from the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston was so bold as to say
'that one may obtain eternal salvation, it is not always required that he be incorporated into the Church actually as a member'. It is as if someone in Rome in 1949 saw a baptism of desire case strolling near the Vatican's Piazza del Cancelleria.
Without this error in the Fr.Leonard Feeney case; that of assuming imaginary cases are personally known and visible, Crux cannot cite any passage in Vatican Council II to support the new ecclesiology and to reject the traditional teachings of the Catholic Church on the members of other religions and Christians communities, all going to Hell, with no exceptions in the present times.-Lionel Andrades

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Lionel L. Andrades
If a new religious community wants to be faithful to the Gospel they must not seek recognition from the Vatican

If a new religious community wants to be faithful to the Gospel they must not seek recognition from the Vatican.
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If a new religious community wants to be faithful to the Gospel they must not seek recognition from the Vatican

If a new religious community wants to be faithful to the Gospel they must not seek recognition from the Vatican.
If they want to say,'All Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims, Protestants, Orthodox Christians in 2016 need to be incorporated into the Catholic Church for salvation, to avoid Hell, with no known exceptions',then they will not be accepted by the two popes and the Vatican Curia.
Without Vatican recognition this new religious community could exist as a society, and affirm Vatican Council II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1995) , the Catechism of Pope Pius X and previous catechisms.
Presently some priests in Rome, who offer Mass in Italian and the Traditional Latin Mass, have told me that in 2016 they do not know of any case of the baptism of desire(BOD) or being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) without the baptism of water.They do not know of any exception to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
Yet some of them have to teach Rahner's theology,(others have to proclaim it) which is based upon there being known exceptions to EENS in 2016.They have to infer that they can see people in Heaven without the baptism of water in 2016.Or that they know of some people on earth who are going to be saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church in some' extraordinary way'.
If the Superior of any of the many religious communities today says Jesus said all need the baptism of water for salvation( John 3:5) and we do not know of any exceptions in 2016 to Jesus' teachings, the Superior would have to resign.
It is only by telling a lie ( being able to physically see invisible cases) can the Superior, Mother or Father General be accepted by the Vatican.
So the Superior compromises. This semester they have sent young religious to study at Rome's pontifical universities where they will all be taught the lie.No one would be allowed to object with the truth.When they tell a lie no one in the community is persecuted.

The seminarians of the Franciscans of the Immaculate, who study at these universities, all have to say that there are known exceptions in 2016 to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS. There are known exceptions to exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church as taught in the Catechism of Pope Pius X.Pope Francis has approved this after he closed down their seminary in Rome.
According to Pope Francis' new rules, for religous communities, including monastic communities,all religious have to be associated with a liberal Catholic community or society. This would be a group of people who among other things, accept the Rahner-Ratzinger New Theology and reject the Feeneyite interpretation of EENS.
Go out into the whole world and proclaim the Good News was the Response to the Psalm, at Holy Mass today.
This can only be done officially and in public by religious, who will theologically 1) not separate Jesus from the Catholic Church and 2) interpret Vatican Council II and the dogma EENS without an irrational premise and conclusion( being able to see the saved in Heaven who are there without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church is the irrational premise. So there is salvation outside the Catholic Church is the conclusion).In this way a new doctrine has been created. There is an innovation in the Church approved by the two popes and the Vatican Curia. In the words of Pope Benedict XVI, EENS is no more like it was in the 16th century. It has been replaced with the new irrational and innovative theology which all religous must accept to get Vatican recognition.
-Lionel Andrades
Holy Cannoli
Again Ms. Lourdes chimes in where she doesn't belong. 🤦

Did you actually write the following merde, Ms. Lourdes?

Bergoglio [sic] is not the pope.
Bergoglio [sic] is not a Catholic.


Here's a link for you Cupcake and all other clueless, sanctimonious, hypocritical know nothings.
jd1961
"Cannoli", it seems that perhaps with your relentless stalking of this user, that you ought to peruse your link more carefully for insight.
Holy Cannoli
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
NIH (National Institute of Mental Health)
Lionel L. Andrades
I affirm Vatican Council II( Feeneyite) and the dogma EENS ( Feeneyite) and I am waiting for the rest of the Church to follow.Meanwhile, I am not alone.
John Martignoni: The American Catholic apologist.He says the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance refer to 'zero cases' in our reality. So they are not exceptions to EENS.
Fr.S.Visintin osb: He is the Dean of Theology at the …
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I affirm Vatican Council II( Feeneyite) and the dogma EENS ( Feeneyite) and I am waiting for the rest of the Church to follow.Meanwhile, I am not alone.
John Martignoni: The American Catholic apologist.He says the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance refer to 'zero cases' in our reality. So they are not exceptions to EENS.
Fr.S.Visintin osb: He is the Dean of Theology at the St.Anselm Pontifical University in Rome.He agrees with Martignoni.


TERMS DEFINED

Feeneyism: It is the old theology and philosophical reaoning which says there are no known exceptions past or present, to the dogma EENS.There are no explicit cases to contradict the traditional interpretation of EENS.
Cushingism: It is the new theology and philosophical reasoning, which assumes there are known exceptions, past and present, to the dogma EENS, on the need for all to formally enter the Church.It assumes that the baptism of desire etc are not hypothetical but objectively known.In principle hypothetical cases are objective in the present times.
Baptism of Desire. It refers to the hypothetical case of an unknown catechumen who desires the baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is saved. Since this is an invisible case in our reality it is not relevant to the dogma EENS.
Invincible Ignorance. This refers to the hypothetical case of someone allegedly saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church, since he was in ignorance.
Council of Florence.One of the three Councils which defined the dogma EENS.It did not mention any exceptions.
Liberal theologians.They reinterpreted the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance, as objective cases, known in the present times.
Vatican Council II(Cushingite). It refers to the interpretation of Vatican Council II with Cushingism.LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc refer not to hypothetical but known cases in the present times. So Vatican Council II emerges as a break with the dogma EENS.
Vatican Council II (Feeneyite).It refers to the interpretation of Vatican Council II with Feeneyism.LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc refer to hypothetical cases, which are unknown personally in the present times.So Vatican Council II is not a break with EENS, the Syllabus of Errors, ecumenism of return, the Nicene Creed ( Feeneyite-one baptism),the teaching on the Social Reign of Christ the King over all political legislation and the non separation of Church and State( since all need to convert into the Church to avoid Hell).
Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston. It assumed hypothetical cases were defacto known in the present times. So it presented the baptism of desire etc as an explicit exception, to the traditional interpretation of the dogma EENS.It censured Fr.Leonard Feeney and the St.Benedict Center.Since they did not assume that the baptism of desire referred to a visible instead of invisible case.The Letter made the baptism of desire etc relevant to EENs.From the second part of this Letter has emerged the New Theology.
Baltimore Catechism. It assumed that the desire for the baptism of an unknown catechumen, who dies before receiving it and was saved, was a baptism like the baptism of water. So it was placed in the Baptism Section of the catechism. In other words it was wrongly assumed that the baptism of desire is visible and repeatable like the baptism of water or that we can administer it like the baptism of water.
Catechism of Pope X. It followed the Baltimore Catechism and placed the baptism of desire in the Baptism Section.
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Lionel L. Andrades
St.Maximillian Kolbe says that as Catholics we are not obliged to follow heresy.
I am affirming the teachings of the Church including Vatican Council II.I can cite Vatican Council II to support me. You cannot.You would have to assume that B is an exception to A. You would have to assume invisible cases are visible in 2016.Then you can live comfortably with no persecution.Here is what I believe.

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St.Maximillian Kolbe says that as Catholics we are not obliged to follow heresy.
I am affirming the teachings of the Church including Vatican Council II.I can cite Vatican Council II to support me. You cannot.You would have to assume that B is an exception to A. You would have to assume invisible cases are visible in 2016.Then you can live comfortably with no persecution.Here is what I believe.

I affirm Vatican Council II with the old ecclesiology of the Catechism of St. Pius X.

From the Catechism of Pope Saint Pius X
17 Q. For whom did Jesus Christ die?
A. Jesus Christ died for the salvation of all men, and made satisfaction for all.

18 Q. If Jesus Christ died for the salvation of all men, why are not all men saved?

A. Jesus Christ died for all, but not all are saved, because not all will acknowledge Him; all do not observe His Law; all do not avail themselves of the means of salvation He has left us.

19 Q. To be saved is it enough that Jesus Christ has died for us?

A. No, it is not enough for our salvation that Jesus Christ has died for us; it is also necessary that the fruit of His Passion and death be applied to each one of us, which is accomplished especially by means of the Sacraments instituted for this end by Jesus Christ Himself; and as many either do not receive the Sacraments at all, or do not receive them well, they thus render the death of Jesus Christ useless in their regard.

The Church in Particular
9 Q. State distinctly what is necessary to be a member of the Church?
A. To be a member of the Church it is necessary to be baptised, to believe and profess the teaching of Jesus Christ, to participate in the same Sacraments, and to acknowledge the Pope and the other lawful pastors of the Church.

13 Q. How can the Church of Jesus Christ be distinguished from the numerous societies or sects founded by men, and calling themselves Christian?
A. From the numerous societies or sects founded by men and calling themselves Christian, the Church of Jesus Christ is easily distinguished by four marks: She is One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic.

14 Q. Why is the Church called One?
A. The true Church is called One, because her children of all ages and places are united together in the same faith, in the same worship, in the same law; and in participation of the same Sacraments, under the same visible Head, the Roman Pontiff.

15 Q. Can there not be several Churches?
A. No, there cannot be more than one Church; for as there is but one God, one Faith and one Baptism, there is and can be but one true Church.

22 Q. In what does the Soul of the Church consist?
A. The Soul of the Church consists in her internal and spiritual endowments, that is, faith, hope, charity, the gifts of grace and of the Holy Ghost, together with all the heavenly treasures which are hers through the merits of our Redeemer, Jesus Christ, and of the Saints.

23 Q. In what does the Body of the Church consist?
A. The Body of the Church consists in her external and visible aspect, that is, in the association of her members, in her worship, in her teaching-power and in her external rule and government.

24 Q. To be saved, is it enough to be any sort of member of the Catholic Church?
A. No, to be saved it is not enough to be any sort of member of the Catholic Church; it is necessary to be a living member.

25 Q. Who are the living members of the Church?
A. The living members of the Church are the just, and the just alone, that is, those who are actually in the grace of God.

26 Q. And who are the dead members?
A. The dead members of the Church are the faithful in mortal sin.

27 Q. Can one be saved outside the Catholic, Apostolic and Roman Church?
A. No, no one can be saved outside the Catholic, Apostolic Roman Church, just as no one could be saved from the flood outside the Ark of Noah, which was a figure of the Church.

29 Q. But if a man through no fault of his own is outside the Church, can he be saved?
A. If he is outside the Church through no fault of his, that is, if he is in good faith, and if he has received Baptism, or at least has the implicit desire of Baptism; and if, moreover, he sincerely seeks the truth and does God's will as best he can such a man is indeed separated from the body of the Church, but is united to the soul of the Church and consequently is on the way of salvation

30 Q. Suppose that a man is a member of the Catholic Church, but does not put her teaching into practice, will he be saved?
A. He who is a member of the Catholic Church and does not put her teaching into practice is a dead member, and hence will not be saved; for towards the salvation of an adult not only Baptism and faith are required, but, furthermore, works in keeping with faith.

Those Outside the Communion of Saints

10 Q. Who are they who do not belong to the Communion of Saints?
A. Those who are damned do not belong to the Communion of Saints in the other life; and in this life those who belong neither to the body nor to the soul of the Church, that is, those who are in mortal sin, and who are outside the true Church.

11 Q. Who are they who are outside the true Church?
A. Outside the true Church are: Infidels, Jews, heretics, apostates, schismatics, and the excommunicated.

12 Q. Who are infidels?
A. Infidels are those who have not been baptised and do not believe in Jesus Christ, because they either believe in and worship false gods as idolaters do, or though admitting one true God, they do not believe in the Messiah, neither as already come in the Person of Jesus Christ, nor as to come; for instance, Mohammedans and the like.

13 Q. Who are the Jews?
A. The Jews are those who profess the Law of Moses; have not received baptism; and do not believe in Jesus Christ.

14 Q. Who are heretics?
A. Heretics are those of the baptised who obstinately refuse to believe some truth revealed by God and taught as an article of faith by the Catholic Church; for example, the Arians, the Nestorians and the various sects of Protestants.

Necessity of Baptism and Obligations of the Baptised
16 Q. Is Baptism necessary to salvation?
A. Baptism is absolutely necessary to salvation, for our Lord has expressly said: "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God."
17 Q. Can the absence of Baptism be supplied in any other way?
A. The absence of Baptism can be supplied by martyrdom, which is called Baptism of Blood, or by an act of perfect love of God, or of contrition, along with the desire, at least implicit, of Baptism, and this is called Baptism of Desire.

The First Commandment


14 Q. What is heresy?
A. Heresy is a culpable error of the intellect by which some truth of faith is obstinately denied.

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All Jews, Muslims, Protestants, Orthodox Christians and other non Catholics in 2016 are oriented to the fires of Hell unless they are incorporated into the Catholic Church as members, with 'faith and baptism' (Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14), Cantate Domino Council of Florence 1441, Dominus Iesus 20, Nicene Creed, Athanasius Creed etc). So I affirm Vatican Council II with the old ecclesiology of the Catechism of the St. Pius X.
-Lionel Andrades
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Holy Cannoli
Your own hardheadedness and refusal to submit to authority has brought you to the place you are now and you will remain there unless you change your attitude.

Will that happen?

Because of years of repeatedly permitting this arrogantly superior and disdainful disposition to grow unchecked, at this point, it would be miraculous if a change did occur.

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Your own hardheadedness and refusal to submit to authority has brought you to the place you are now and you will remain there unless you change your attitude.

Will that happen?

Because of years of repeatedly permitting this arrogantly superior and disdainful disposition to grow unchecked, at this point, it would be miraculous if a change did occur.

To submit to the authority of others whether it be liturgical, civil or social is an obstacle for you but until/unless you do, you will remain as you are with no hope and no chance of progress.
Lionel L. Andrades
Cannoli,
Presently I have a stable place to stay.
However there have been times, long times, when I have had to sleep outside a Church in Rome and use the free showers.
The advantage in this was that I could affirm the Catholic Faith freely.
I can say the Catholic Church teaches in its magisterial documents that all Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims,Protestants and Orthodox Christians are on the …More
Cannoli,
Presently I have a stable place to stay.
However there have been times, long times, when I have had to sleep outside a Church in Rome and use the free showers.
The advantage in this was that I could affirm the Catholic Faith freely.
I can say the Catholic Church teaches in its magisterial documents that all Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims,Protestants and Orthodox Christians are on the way to Hell unless they formally convert into the Catholic Church with 'faith and baptism'( Vatican Council II, AG 7, LG 14) and there are no known exceptions in 2016.
Those who want to live comfortable, and please their superiors or someone else may have difficulty in saying this.
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Similarly I was studying Philosophy at the Pontifical Regina Apostolorum University in Rome. I would distribute pamphlets quoting Dominus Iesus and the CDF, Notification on Fr. Jaques Dupuis S.J.I would affirm the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
I was told by my Spiritual Director that he had received instructions from the Rector of the nearby Pontifical International Maria Mater Ecclesia Seminary, where previously I was a seminariam, that if I did not stop this , my education/tuition sponsorship would be stopped at the university.
It was stopped.I was allowed to attend classes but not allowed to sit for the Final Comprehensive Exam. There were critical letters written to my bishops. The letters were from priests and nuns.Even today I am not allowed to study ther or visit.
The experience was similar at the Beda Pontifical College, the Catholic seminary under the bishops of England and Wales in Rome.I was a seminarian for a month at the Beda Colllege and the Maria Mater Ecclesia seminary in Rome.
So I was out of the two seminaries and the UPRA university in Rome but I was still free to write. To proclaim the faith without security and comfort being a priority.
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You understand what I am saying and you know that I have quoted magisterial texts to support myself . Yet you will not accept it. This has been my experience with priests and nuns in Rome. They are not interested in the truth or proclaiming the truth.They want a Gospel which is comfortable.
Holy Cannoli
One can assume that living homeless on the streets of Rome and using an internet cafe to repost anti-magisterial merde from his own website has its benefits. Francis allows the homeless free haircuts, showers and shelter at the Vatican and a free.meal who knows how often...of course there are always meals at the various homeless shelters in Rome.

The lady...
Lionel L. Andrades
The Holy Spirit guides the Catholic Church to accept Vatican Council II according to Fr.Leonard Feeney and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

The Letter of the Holy Office supports Fr.Leonard Feeney and the St.Benedict Center on the literal interpretation of the dogma. If the Letter assumes that the baptism of desire is an exception to the dogma, it made an objective error.

When Archbishop…
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The Holy Spirit guides the Catholic Church to accept Vatican Council II according to Fr.Leonard Feeney and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

The Letter of the Holy Office supports Fr.Leonard Feeney and the St.Benedict Center on the literal interpretation of the dogma. If the Letter assumes that the baptism of desire is an exception to the dogma, it made an objective error.

When Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre said 'preach extra ecclesiam nulla salus' he meant the literal interpretation of the dogma.There cannot be two interpretations.


The SSPX should criticize the ' ecclesiology of communion' and the 'theology of religions' in the name of Vatican Council II.

The Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) response to Fr.Leonard Feeney and his communities today should be that the Letter of the Holy Office supports Fr. Leonard Feeney on doctrine,in the initial paragraphs of the Letter.If at the end of the Letter, Fr.Leonard Feeney was criticized for doctrine then the Letter made an objective error, since we do not know anyone saved with the baptism of desire etc. If the Letter criticized him for disobedience it is true that Fr.Leonard Feeney and the St.Benedict Center were disobedient to the Archbishop. The Archbishop was teaching heresy with his known- to-us-baptism of desire which was supposed to contradict the dogma.

The SSPX must realize that the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 of Pope Pius XII supported Fr. Leonard Feeney on doctrine and so Vatican Council II must be interpreted in accord with the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney.

Ad Gentes 7 agrees with Fr.Leonard Feeney,it states all need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation.

When Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre said 'preach extra ecclesiam nulla salus' he meant the literal interpretation of the dogma.There cannot be two interpretations.If the SSPX assumes that LG 16 and LG 8 are known to us then we have a new interpretaion of Vatican Council II and the dogma on salvation.

If one assumes that those saved in invincible ignorance are known to us then we get another interpretation of Vatican Council II,it is the Muller-Di Noia liberal interpretation.-Lionel Andrades
Holy Cannoli
It is known to us and to you that those who are in invincible ignorance of our most holy religion, but who observe carefully the natural law, and the precepts graven by God upon the hearts of all men, and who being disposed to obey God lead an honest and upright life, may, aided by the light of divine grace, attain to eternal life; for God who sees clearly, searches and knows the heart, the …More
It is known to us and to you that those who are in invincible ignorance of our most holy religion, but who observe carefully the natural law, and the precepts graven by God upon the hearts of all men, and who being disposed to obey God lead an honest and upright life, may, aided by the light of divine grace, attain to eternal life; for God who sees clearly, searches and knows the heart, the disposition, the thoughts and intentions of each, in His supreme mercy and goodness by no means permits that anyone suffer eternal punishment, who has not of his own free will fallen into sin. Pius IX
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These statements are consistent with the understanding of the Church contained in the documents of Vatican II, and the Catechism of the Catholic Church, as well as explaining why the rigorist position of Fr. Feeney (that all must be actual members of the Catholic Church to be saved) has been condemned by the Magisterium. It is ironic that precisely those who know their obligation to remain united to the Magisterium, and thus on whom this doctrine is morally binding, keep themselves from union with the Roman See on this point.
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It is ironic that precisely those who know their obligation to remain united to the Magisterium, and thus on whom this doctrine is morally binding, keep themselves from union with the Roman See on this point.

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It is ironic that precisely those who know their obligation to remain united to the Magisterium, and thus on whom this doctrine is morally binding, keep themselves from union with the Roman See on this point.

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It is ironic that precisely those who know their obligation to remain united to the Magisterium, and thus on whom this doctrine is morally binding, keep themselves from union with the Roman See on this point.

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It is ironic that precisely those who know their obligation to remain united to the Magisterium, and thus on whom this doctrine is morally binding, keep themselves from union with the Roman See on this point.
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Never argue with Stupid People
Lionel L. Andrades
Second Vatican Council II was a rupture with the Catechism of Pope Pius X due to an oversight of the traditionaists.The mistake invisible cases as being visible. They interpreted the baptism of desire not as a hypothetical case but as referring to someone seen in the present times.Archbishop Lefebvre also did not notice the error and nor is the SSPX issuing a correction today.

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Second Vatican Council II was a rupture with the Catechism of Pope Pius X due to an oversight of the traditionaists.The mistake invisible cases as being visible. They interpreted the baptism of desire not as a hypothetical case but as referring to someone seen in the present times.Archbishop Lefebvre also did not notice the error and nor is the SSPX issuing a correction today.

Catechism of Pope Pius X : Difference between John Vennari and me

I affirm Vatican Council II with the old ecclesiology of the Catechism of Pope Pius X.I am reminded of this Catechism since John Vennari has mentioned it on a video.
The difference between John Vennari and me is here:


Necessity of Baptism and Obligations of the Baptised

16 Q. Is Baptism necessary to salvation?

A. Baptism is absolutely necessary to salvation, for our Lord has expressly said: "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God."

17 Q. Can the absence of Baptism be supplied in any other way?

A. The absence of Baptism can be supplied by martyrdom, which is called Baptism of Blood, or by an act of perfect love of God, or of contrition, along with the desire, at least implicit, of Baptism, and this is called Baptism of Desire.-Catechism of Pope Pius X
For John Vennari and the SSPX priests 17Qrefers to a visible case, seen in the flesh in the present times. So the baptism of desire becomes an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
For me it is an invisible case.
The Letter of the Holy Office 1949 also interpreted 17Q with the irrationality. The baptism of desire refers to ' a practical exception' to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Archbishop Lefebvre also made this mistake.
John Vennari will not be able to affirm the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus since he will refer to the baptism of desire as if it is a relevant exception to the dogma on exclusive salvation.
I affirm the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS since I accept the baptism of desire as only being hypothetical, accepted in theory, speculation with good will, dejure (accepted in principle) and not defacto ( in reality).
-Lionel Andrades

I affirm Vatican Council II with the old ecclesiology of the Catechism of St. Pius X

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Pepík
To je klíčová otázka, na kterou může odpovědět jenom kuťák. 😁
Pepík
Brat Hoki sa doťahuje aj cez nick Peter Maria. 🤐
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Pepík
Peter Maria: Brat Hoki, preberám od teba štafetu. Hebelovi ukážeme, akí sme zbojníci. Odfotíme černé mačky a každému nabijeme. 😁
Pepík
Má smůlu, že ho každý pozná. Dokonce dřív, než napíše první komentář. To už tady bylo mockrát. Měl by se vrátit ke své bezva kočce, když už se stylizoval do čarodějnice s černou kočkou na zádech a bradavicí na nose. 😁
Pepík
Tobě taky, grafomane. Podle toho, jak každého soudíš, bydlíš v lanškrouně. 😁
Libor Halik
Islám není spasitelný, jeho stoupenci hoří navěky v pekle. To satanovi vyhovuje, Hebeli. Proto některé satanské bankéřské židovské elity chtějí použít islám k odstranění křesťanství. Islám kromě toho dovoluje svým stoupencům, zejména mužům, mnoho smrtelných hříchů.
Libor Halik
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Josefine
>>>On the Cross Jesus forgives everyone, and His salvation is for everyone – even for those who have committed grave sins in life, if they draw near to Jesus with penitence and the will to be embraced.”<<<

Pope: The Church, and the salvation of God, are for everyone

"Penitence and the will to be embraced" sounds very sentimental, but penitance - or repentance - is a decision and just the …More
>>>On the Cross Jesus forgives everyone, and His salvation is for everyone – even for those who have committed grave sins in life, if they draw near to Jesus with penitence and the will to be embraced.”<<<

Pope: The Church, and the salvation of God, are for everyone

"Penitence and the will to be embraced" sounds very sentimental, but penitance - or repentance - is a decision and just the beginning of a change in the mind.
May be that ´Francis´and his people are not willing to change their mind, even if we tell them that it is absurd and useless to confess one´s sins without the will to return and a change in the mind.
They will remain obdurate as the Pharao, who disobeyed the order of God to let His people go, who are His firstborn son - because he, the Pharao, did not accepted God and His rulership.
The Lord Jesus instructed Simon Peter to graze His lambs and His sheep... John 21,15-17
He did not say that he should tell them Lies, so that they perish because of the lack of knowledge...: "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge...!" Hosea 4,6
He also did not say that they should support the politicians, who make mortal sins easy and legal, mortal sins as abortion, sodomy, divorce and idolatry...!
There are no Roman bishops and priests who warn the responsible people directly from their mortal sin and their condemnation, if they do not live according the order and precepts of God.
"Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans, because this happened to them? No, but I say to you: All of you will perish like they were, unless you repent! ...Or those eighteen who were killed when the tower of Siloam collapsed on them... Do you think that they were more sinful than all the others living in Jerusalem? No, but I say to you: Unless you repent - all of you will be destroyed like they were!" Luke 13,2-5