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Chinese Forced Abortion At 7 1/2 Months Pregnant

Steven W Mosher on Twitter, July 8: "This poor woman was 7 1/2 months pregnant when CCP China officials declared her pregnancy "illegal." She was forcibly aborted by cesarean section. I am an …More
Steven W Mosher on Twitter, July 8: "This poor woman was 7 1/2 months pregnant when CCP China officials declared her pregnancy "illegal." She was forcibly aborted by cesarean section. I am an eyewitness to China's crimes against humanity."
Ultraviolet
Well... if you wanna talk numbers @Jmy1975 Chi-Com already holds the high score for the death tol and they -have- surpassed the Sovs. Democide, as you know, differs from genocide, which is what most official figures tend cite.
Jmy1975
@Ultraviolet I'm taking about atrocity. Obv the numbers are on China's side. But since communism was first tried in Russia the lengths the Soviet state went to psychologically and physically degrade its people is unrivaled. IMO. They wrote the playbook the Chinese and other Commie states learned from. And it was harder because culturally Russians were much more resistant than the Chinese culture. …More
@Ultraviolet I'm taking about atrocity. Obv the numbers are on China's side. But since communism was first tried in Russia the lengths the Soviet state went to psychologically and physically degrade its people is unrivaled. IMO. They wrote the playbook the Chinese and other Commie states learned from. And it was harder because culturally Russians were much more resistant than the Chinese culture.

Since China has become wealthy through theft, however, and Is probably the richest country on earth at the moment, they have the opportunity to do much worse. But only if western countries allow China to replace the US as its sugar daddy. I think that's coming. But now Russia still has the worse history, which is partly why Russia can't even acknowledge what communism did to them.
Ultraviolet
Your argument is based on seeing atrocity as strictly politically based. It is also cultural. The Russians are, essentially, rooted in Western/ Central European medievalism.. The Chinese were, are, and always shall be... Chinese.

Culturally speaking, the Chinese have always been fascinated by torture. That same exquisite attention to detail they apply to arts and handicrafts has also been used …More
Your argument is based on seeing atrocity as strictly politically based. It is also cultural. The Russians are, essentially, rooted in Western/ Central European medievalism.. The Chinese were, are, and always shall be... Chinese.

Culturally speaking, the Chinese have always been fascinated by torture. That same exquisite attention to detail they apply to arts and handicrafts has also been used to make others suffer.. Russians see atrocity as a means to an end. The Chinese see the end as an excuse for more atrocity. Combined with communism, it's easy to see why the Chinese hold the first rank.

If we both agree the Chinse hold the top death toll, it's difficult to claim Russia has the worst history, eh? ;-)
Jmy1975
@Ultraviolet not quite. But they're gaining.
Ultraviolet
By now Communist China has easily surpassed it Russian ancestor in terms of sheer atrocity, both in scale and quantity.