Archbishop Cupich: Kasper's proposal 'very rich theologically' Archbishop Cupich lays out pathway for gay couples to receive Communion at Vatican press scrumMore
Archbishop Cupich: Kasper's proposal 'very rich theologically'
Archbishop Cupich lays out pathway for gay couples to receive Communion at Vatican press scrum
Archbishop Cupich lays out pathway for gay couples to receive Communion at Vatican press scrum
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"I have the impression that many supporters of this modernity, are in fact thinking about changing doctrine, yet calling it a change in Church discipline. It is a disturbing point in these discussions, for it is strongly emphasized: "we accept the entire doctrine", but there immediately follows a suggestion that doctrine has nothing to do with it. This is greatly worrying me, for one and the other …More
"I have the impression that many supporters of this modernity, are in fact thinking about changing doctrine, yet calling it a change in Church discipline. It is a disturbing point in these discussions, for it is strongly emphasized: "we accept the entire doctrine", but there immediately follows a suggestion that doctrine has nothing to do with it. This is greatly worrying me, for one and the other are saying that they want no change in doctrine. From where then, are arising these practices opposed to doctrine?" (Archbishop Gadecki)
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The Kasper proposal is simply the suggestion that it is possible that some people may be divorced and remarried... and yet not be in mortal sin.
In catholic teaching, the conditions necessary for a mortal sin are:
1) the sin itself concerns something grave
2) the person is aware that it concerns something grave
3) the person voluntarily chooses to do it, even though they are aware, and not because …More
The Kasper proposal is simply the suggestion that it is possible that some people may be divorced and remarried... and yet not be in mortal sin.
In catholic teaching, the conditions necessary for a mortal sin are:
1) the sin itself concerns something grave
2) the person is aware that it concerns something grave
3) the person voluntarily chooses to do it, even though they are aware, and not because something else has forced them to do it against their will
masturbation, pornography, sex outside of marriage, homosexual acts, and adultery are all considered grave sins. Divorce and remarriage is adultery, because they are having sex and yet not actually within a marriage, since they are still married to the original partner. So number 1 is checked off for sure.
Is it possible that there are people in the world who are unaware that these are grave sins? I am not sure. I have a feeling in the confusion of today, that such people probably do exist- if not in large numbers. If there are, then number 2 is not checked off for those people, and that means that such people are not in a state of mortal sin and thus could receive communion.
However, it seems to me that more logical that the way you would solve that problem would be by teaching them that it is in fact a grave sin rather than giving them communion because they are unaware and thus not in grave sin.
People like this should not have been even allowed to receive confirmation when they were children or to enter the church as adults if they were converts, because they obviously were not catechized properly. If they were, however, catechized properly and they knowingly reject the church's teachings out of their own free will, then they excommunicate themselves and thus still should not receive the sacraments.
Is there anyone being divorced and remarried who is doing so out of coercion and not by their own free will? Maybe somewhere in the world there is, but I doubt this is the group that the Synod fathers are speaking about. There are some people who are addicted to porn, addicted to masturbation and addicted to sex, who want to break it, and are trying to break it, but have so far failed to completely come clean of it, and to them number 3 could apply and they could perhaps receive communion.
I am not sure if that is the case here or not, however. In order for it to be the case, I think it would necessitate that the divorced and remarried persons were actively trying to get out of the relationship and had just failed to come completely clean of it yet.
I think such people would also be capable of receiving communion, if they existed.
No need to worry though about any of these things... Christ will triumph in the end.
In catholic teaching, the conditions necessary for a mortal sin are:
1) the sin itself concerns something grave
2) the person is aware that it concerns something grave
3) the person voluntarily chooses to do it, even though they are aware, and not because something else has forced them to do it against their will
masturbation, pornography, sex outside of marriage, homosexual acts, and adultery are all considered grave sins. Divorce and remarriage is adultery, because they are having sex and yet not actually within a marriage, since they are still married to the original partner. So number 1 is checked off for sure.
Is it possible that there are people in the world who are unaware that these are grave sins? I am not sure. I have a feeling in the confusion of today, that such people probably do exist- if not in large numbers. If there are, then number 2 is not checked off for those people, and that means that such people are not in a state of mortal sin and thus could receive communion.
However, it seems to me that more logical that the way you would solve that problem would be by teaching them that it is in fact a grave sin rather than giving them communion because they are unaware and thus not in grave sin.
People like this should not have been even allowed to receive confirmation when they were children or to enter the church as adults if they were converts, because they obviously were not catechized properly. If they were, however, catechized properly and they knowingly reject the church's teachings out of their own free will, then they excommunicate themselves and thus still should not receive the sacraments.
Is there anyone being divorced and remarried who is doing so out of coercion and not by their own free will? Maybe somewhere in the world there is, but I doubt this is the group that the Synod fathers are speaking about. There are some people who are addicted to porn, addicted to masturbation and addicted to sex, who want to break it, and are trying to break it, but have so far failed to completely come clean of it, and to them number 3 could apply and they could perhaps receive communion.
I am not sure if that is the case here or not, however. In order for it to be the case, I think it would necessitate that the divorced and remarried persons were actively trying to get out of the relationship and had just failed to come completely clean of it yet.
I think such people would also be capable of receiving communion, if they existed.
No need to worry though about any of these things... Christ will triumph in the end.
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In my opinion this theology is not Catholic.
St. Paul Pray for us
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What flagrant evil! What heresies! What enmity of Christ Our Lord and His Holy Laws!
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Hopefully this will prove that new church and clergy is not guided by the Holy Ghost and have hijacked the Catholic Church and is leading people to hell. Resist.