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m sr a
German Bishops “Approve” a Morning-After Pill that Does Not Exist

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m sr a
Secretary of the Spanish Episcopal Conference, Bishop Juan Antonio Martínez Camino

"If there is a pill that prevents that there be a conception in cases of rape, then it is licit to prevent it." [However,] "We have no knowledge of a morning-after pill without abortifacient effects. If it does exist, it may be used, with the doctrine we have." "If it does exist, we will be sure to know it .... …More
Secretary of the Spanish Episcopal Conference, Bishop Juan Antonio Martínez Camino

"If there is a pill that prevents that there be a conception in cases of rape, then it is licit to prevent it." [However,] "We have no knowledge of a morning-after pill without abortifacient effects. If it does exist, it may be used, with the doctrine we have." "If it does exist, we will be sure to know it .... all morning-after pills have this possible abortive effect. Therefore, its use is illicit. If it does exist in Germany, we are not aware of it. It is not known to us that this technical possibility exists." (Several sources, including El Mundo)

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m sr a
Erzbischof Eguren: Der Heilige Stuhl hat bei ‚Pille danach‘ nichts geändert

Der Vorsitzende der Kommission für Familie, Kinder und Verteidigung des Lebens in der Peruanischen Bischofskonferenz, Erzbischof José Antonio Eguren, hat darauf hingewiesen, daß der Heilige Stuhl seine Haltung zur ‚Pille danach‘, wegen deren potentiell abortiver Wirkweise, nicht geändert, und damit Klarheit geschaffen …More
Erzbischof Eguren: Der Heilige Stuhl hat bei ‚Pille danach‘ nichts geändert

Der Vorsitzende der Kommission für Familie, Kinder und Verteidigung des Lebens in der Peruanischen Bischofskonferenz, Erzbischof José Antonio Eguren, hat darauf hingewiesen, daß der Heilige Stuhl seine Haltung zur ‚Pille danach‘, wegen deren potentiell abortiver Wirkweise, nicht geändert, und damit Klarheit geschaffen habe in Bezug auf die „einsame und überraschende“ Erklärung der deutschen Bischöfe, die deren Gebrauch in katholischen Krankenhäusern in Deutschland für Frauen erlaubt hat, die Opfer einer Vergewaltigung geworden sind.
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m sr a
Without encroaching on the respective arguments of both, I think that the utterance of personal respect towards contributors of this forum may improve 👌
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News about... pearls and swines...

www.welt.de/…/Kardinal-Meisne…

JMJ - fine but just amagin badman would come to adoration!!!

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dont start it...
Coelestin V
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bosco7591
Soy médico. No hay seguridad de que cualquier fármaco tenga la dosis exacta que solo produzca anticoncepción y no aborto; o que en sí mismo no sea capaz de producir aborto. Por lo tanto, solo por la existencia de la posibilidad de que un solo ser humano muera por ese motivo, ya es pecado.
Holy Cannoli
Your Cardinal lied in his attempt to justify his acceptance of the abortive morning-after pill. He (and the rest of his gang of dissemblers) are not to be trusted.

Archbishop Gänswein reportedly says Cardinal Meisner's statement "not true"

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I forgive you for the injustice you did to me.

There has been no injustice. You are in denial and are simply …More
Your Cardinal lied in his attempt to justify his acceptance of the abortive morning-after pill. He (and the rest of his gang of dissemblers) are not to be trusted.

Archbishop Gänswein reportedly says Cardinal Meisner's statement "not true"

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I forgive you for the injustice you did to me.

There has been no injustice. You are in denial and are simply unwilling to accept the truth.
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For neurotics, behavior such as denial is an unconscious defense mechanism that protects against the experience of unbearable pain. With disordered characters, what we commonly perceive as unconscious defenses (e.g., denial) are more often deliberate tactics of impression-management, manipulation, and responsibility-avoidance. counsellingresource.com/…/denial-as-defen…

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P.S. Stop trying to get my attention. You are not the type of woman I could ever be interested in. Try here.

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Maria-Klara
Where is the "proof" that Kardinal Meisner allowed abortive pills? Show it to me and I will correct my opinion about him. If you can't proof it to me, I will keep defending the Bishop. I read all his original statements and publications and I don't need "English-speaking gloria.tv" or any other dubious media to tell me what to think.

I forgive you for the injustice you did to me.

May God save …More
Where is the "proof" that Kardinal Meisner allowed abortive pills? Show it to me and I will correct my opinion about him. If you can't proof it to me, I will keep defending the Bishop. I read all his original statements and publications and I don't need "English-speaking gloria.tv" or any other dubious media to tell me what to think.

I forgive you for the injustice you did to me.

May God save your soul!
Holy Cannoli
We are here to discuss this matter and despite the fact that you should know better now,

I do know better and you do not and here's why.

It is a relatively uncommon mental disorder and defense mechanism where an individual (often with limited intellectual capacity) attempts to cope with an unpleasant situation by simply denying its truth in spite of evidence to the contrary. The person in …More
We are here to discuss this matter and despite the fact that you should know better now,

I do know better and you do not and here's why.

It is a relatively uncommon mental disorder and defense mechanism where an individual (often with limited intellectual capacity) attempts to cope with an unpleasant situation by simply denying its truth in spite of evidence to the contrary. The person in denial will lash out at anyone who points out their error even when there is clear indisputable proof that they are mistaken.

Take your defense of the indefensible to someone who will believe it. You are in denial and have lost touch with the reality of this case. As such, it would be pointless to make any additional posts to you.

Cardinal Archbishop Joachim Meisner pussyfooted into abortion cases, by leaning on alleged research coming from all places the abortion lobby.

www.rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/…/vatican-ii-at-5…

Foul play by the German bishops- "Morning after" pill: a fait accompli during the Sede Vacante
Maria-Klara
It really amazes me how little you are interested in the truth.

@Holy Cannoli
We are here to discuss this matter and despite the fact that you should know better now, after reading what Kardinal Meiser REALLY said about the morning-after pill (which is totally in line with the church's teaching on the dignity of man from the moment of conception), you are still holding on to your point of view …More
It really amazes me how little you are interested in the truth.

@Holy Cannoli
We are here to discuss this matter and despite the fact that you should know better now, after reading what Kardinal Meiser REALLY said about the morning-after pill (which is totally in line with the church's teaching on the dignity of man from the moment of conception), you are still holding on to your point of view that he is "betraying the Catholic faith they ostensibly represent in addition to betraying the Lord and Giver of Life".

It makes me so angry and sad that Meisner is accused of such a grave sin which he did not commit. He is not a liberal, nor did he yield to spirit of the age (which you can't know because all you know about him is what the media told you). Look at the picture above. Could gloria.tv be more biasing? Lightning strikes on the photographs of 6 Bishops, as if they were the devil in person. Doesn't this way of exposition make you doubt if the auther only wants to inform about the way things are? Why is there no word on what Kardinal Meisner really said about the pill ("If a preparation, whose mechanism of action it is to inhibit nidation, is employed with the intention of averting the nidation of an already fertilized ovum, it is still NOT JUSTIFIABLE, because thereby the fertilized ovum, to whom the protection of the dignity of man corresponds, is deprived actively of its source of life.") or even on what the german conference of bishops said? Are you so ignorant that you rather keep harassing a bishop instead of correcting your image of him being the foe in person? He has served Christ for so many years and been faithful to his bride the church. It is simply wrongful to ascribe the opposite to him.
m sr a
I dissociate from the declaration of the bishops as much as Pope John Paul II dissociated from the Königsteiner Erklärung.
Holy Cannoli
Do you spend time with Jesus TRULY PRESENT in the Blessed Sacrament?

The answer to the question is "yes" but it is none of your business and it is irrelevant to the matter at hand.

This is not about me.

You spew venom when someone doesn't agree with you or challenges you.

You are not a challenge. I "spew venom" (it's called tough love) when dealing with stupidity.

As expected, you totally…More
Do you spend time with Jesus TRULY PRESENT in the Blessed Sacrament?

The answer to the question is "yes" but it is none of your business and it is irrelevant to the matter at hand.

This is not about me.

You spew venom when someone doesn't agree with you or challenges you.

You are not a challenge. I "spew venom" (it's called tough love) when dealing with stupidity.

As expected, you totally ignored my last post because it did not fit your pacifist template.

Try to pay attention. I'll be brief.

Since Monday the subject throughout Gloria's various boards has been about 6 German Bishops who are betraying the Catholic faith they ostensibly represent in addition to betraying the Lord and Giver of Life.

If you want to discuss that matter (which is the subject of this thread by the way) fine. If you don't want to discuss it, then find a thread where you can pontificate to your heart's content, where you can discuss "love", where you can discuss your "personal relationship with Jesus Christ" and where you can judge others but bristle at being judged yourself.

In short, go away as you've indicated you will do. You and your type bore me and you have contributed nothing to the actual subject matter of this thread.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Do not think that I came to send peace upon earth: I came not to send peace, but the sword.

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Holy Cannoli
Study the life of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

You study it. He was not a girly-man like you novus ordo hand-holding types would prefer.
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we are called to imitate Christ Jesus and not justify hostile rebuttals by quoting scriptures of bringing the sword.


How very little you know concerning the heroes of your Church.

Be forewarned, These quotes will …More
Study the life of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

You study it. He was not a girly-man like you novus ordo hand-holding types would prefer.
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we are called to imitate Christ Jesus and not justify hostile rebuttals by quoting scriptures of bringing the sword.


How very little you know concerning the heroes of your Church.

Be forewarned, These quotes will likely upset your pacifist, namby-pamby, hand-holding leanings.

This quote is from Fr. Salvany's book Liberalism is a Sin.www.liberalismisasin.com
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St. John the Baptist calls the Pharisees a "race of vipers"; Jesus Christ, Our Divine Savior, hurls at them the epithets "hypocrites, whitened sepulchres, a perverse and adulterous generation."

St. Paul criticizes the schismatic Cretians as "always liars, evil beasts, slothful bellies." The same Apostle calls Elymas the magician a "seducer, full of guile and deceit, a child of the devil, and enemy of all justice."

The Fathers of the Church exercised the same vigorous castigation of heresy and heretics.

The gentle St. Bernard did not honey his words when he attacked the enemies of the Faith. Addressing Arnold of Brescia, the great Liberal agitator of his times, he calls him in his letters, "seducer, vase of injuries, scorpion, cruel wolf."

The Angelic Doctor, Saint Thomas Aquinas, forgets the calm of his cold syllogisms when he hurls his violent attacks against William of St. Amour, and his disciples; "Enemies of God, ministers of the devil, members of antichrist, ignorami, perverts, reprobates!"

Did St. Francis de Sales, purr softly over the heretics of his age and country? With the enemies of the Faith he preserved neither moderation nor consideration.

Asked by a Catholic, who desired to know if it were permissible to speak evil of a heretic who propagated false doctrines, he replied: "Yes, you can, on the condition that you adhere to the exact truth, to what you know of his bad conduct, presenting that which is doubtful as doubtful, according to the degree of doubt which you may have in this regard."

In his _Introduction to the Devout Life_, he expresses himself again: 'If the declared enemies of God and of the Church, ought to be blamed and censured with all possible vigor, charity obliges us to cry 'wolf' when the wolf slips into the midst of the flock and in every way and place we may meet him."

We all know (in Acts 5) the story of Ananias and Saphira, but I would like to close with a relevant quote from that passage.

And there came great fear upon the whole church, and upon all that heard these things. 12. And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people. And they were all with one accord in Solomon's porch.
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Now, go away and pray for those of us who want to fight.

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el lugar correcto!

But remember: this is the english-speaking side 😁

(das ist die englische Seite... mit ihrer ganz eigenen Aufassung von Satire)
bosco7591
Es imposible tener la seguridad de que cualquier píldora del día después tenga la dosis suficiente de fármaco que solo produzca anticoncepción y no aborto. Por lo tanto, solo por la existencia de la posibilidad de que un solo ser humano muera por ese motivo, ya es pecado.
Barbarella