What Is Benedict's Main Legacy? Francis

It's all very mysterious to me. If Benedict really supported Francis' radical agenda - why didn't he just implement it himself? I'm sure it's common knowledge (I think it was even discussed in some book I read about recent papal elections) that the St. Gallen mafia tried to get Francis elected in 2005 after the death of John Paul II. They failed. I recall I was even shocked that Benedict was chosen …More

It's all very mysterious to me. If Benedict really supported Francis' radical agenda - why didn't he just implement it himself? I'm sure it's common knowledge (I think it was even discussed in some book I read about recent papal elections) that the St. Gallen mafia tried to get Francis elected in 2005 after the death of John Paul II. They failed. I recall I was even shocked that Benedict was chosen since so many in the media cast shade on him. No, I believe Benedict was somehow coerced into resigning - hence the whole 'Pope emeritus' thing to save face. The Pillar article seems to think everything he did was done in complete freedom. I have my doubts.

V.R.S.

Jan 4

True.
They have also the common legacy with JPII-weluvU namely: Holocaust Industry Franchise.
See e.g.:
Pope Calls Holocaust Denial Intolerable And Unacceptable
Revelations in Rome as Jewish leaders meet the popeMore

True.

They have also the common legacy with JPII-weluvU namely: Holocaust Industry Franchise.
See e.g.:
Pope Calls Holocaust Denial Intolerable And Unacceptable
Revelations in Rome as Jewish leaders meet the pope

Wilma Lopez shares this

3 448Jan 4

Benedict’s most important legacy is Francis

Wilma Lopez

Jan 4

Kenjiro M. Yoshimori

Jan 4

Benedict XVI didn't mean for this to happen. I think when he retired, he expected a good Pope to be chosen....not a heretic. He trusted people to much.

Malki Tzedek

Jan 4

What we've left behind (our legacies) will be ultimately less important than the future we get to embrace.

Laura Yunque

3 Jan 3

We must accept that Benedict did harm the Church and took actions and held beliefs that were contrary to the Traditional Teaching of the Church. To deny this is to deny Truth. We also must pray for his soul and that repented of these errors. Death and judgement are serious business. Judgement is not based upon how much we may like him. The Pope is responsible for upholding the Catholic Faith. …More

We must accept that Benedict did harm the Church and took actions and held beliefs that were contrary to the Traditional Teaching of the Church. To deny this is to deny Truth. We also must pray for his soul and that repented of these errors. Death and judgement are serious business. Judgement is not based upon how much we may like him. The Pope is responsible for upholding the Catholic Faith. Ratzinger and V2 tried to change it by his own admission. How God judged this, no one can say, but we must not put our heads in the sand because that isn't charity. Nor is it charity to condemn him. However, we must cease and desist from the habit of canonizing the dead. Pray for him.

Seabass

Jan 3

Anyone who reads and understands Quo Primum (as surely the late 'master theologian' Benedict did) knows that Summorum Pontificum was not even necessary. Benedict was a textbook example of what controlled opposition looks like. Link to Quo Primum:
Quo Primum - Papal EncyclicalsMore

Anyone who reads and understands Quo Primum (as surely the late 'master theologian' Benedict did) knows that Summorum Pontificum was not even necessary. Benedict was a textbook example of what controlled opposition looks like. Link to Quo Primum:

Quo Primum - Papal Encyclicals

Hugh N. Cry

3 Jan 3

Yes, my sentiments exactly. I likened this whole situation to a father who abandoned his spouse and children, and an abuser stepped in. Maybe all of this is due to my personal sins (including omission) with those of the whole world? Maybe this was the consequence of it and inline with prophecy?

Agatha James

Jan 4

God is permitting this. And my sins are a reason.

Wilma Lopez

Jan 3

According to the Vatican Gendarmerie, by 2pm today (Rome-time) an estimated 40,000 faithful & pilgrims had come to pay their respects & bid farewell to Pope Benedict XVI in St Peter's Basilica. Here is a shot of the line entering the Vatican basilica this morning.

Kenjiro M. Yoshimori

2 Jan 3

That's very impressive, because for all of yesterday, there were almost 70,000. That makes over 100,000 in two days. And there's still Wednesday to go. Liberals in the Church during Benedict's time labeled him strict, severe, aloof. But the people in Rome loved him.... compared to the fact that they hate Pope Francis and his agenda.
The Vatican expected only 30,000 people to visit yesterday. They …More

That's very impressive, because for all of yesterday, there were almost 70,000. That makes over 100,000 in two days. And there's still Wednesday to go. Liberals in the Church during Benedict's time labeled him strict, severe, aloof. But the people in Rome loved him.... compared to the fact that they hate Pope Francis and his agenda.
The Vatican expected only 30,000 people to visit yesterday. They got nearly 70,000. They stated they expect less than 60,000 for the funeral. I pray, hope, and would like to see the entire Piazza di San Pietro literally packed and going all the way down Via delle Concilazione, like the funeral of JPII. Francis and his trolls would be devastated. It would be a huge slap in the face to Francis, and his agenda (which by the way, people in Italy hate with a passion).

Lisi Sterndorfer

Jan 3

Wilma Lopez

Jan 3

Another point from the article,
“Paradoxically, invoking Benedict as an obstacle for his successor, or even a limit on his freedom to lead the Church, became a kind of rhetorical device for liberals to criticize Francis when the two men were inconveniently in agreement.”