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Many claims of ChurchMilitant vs SSPX refuted

Twitter User „AMericaFirst4Trump“ published on Twitter a reply to ChurchMilitant’s rant against the Society of St Pius X (SSPX).

He does not blame the journalists “with so many people lying, it's hard to know what's what”.

All below is his investigation/ version:

The infamous love letter from a teacher to a student does not exist. It never did. The teacher in question, was not only engaged at the time, but married his fiance & they had several children. The young man has denied receiving such a letter. All of this is easily verifiable.

Fr. Rizzo is the source of many of the nastier rumors about the SSPX dating from that time. His tales scared many people who then pulled their kids from SMAC to follow him. That phoney baloney about guns at St. Mary's? It was Fr. Rizzo.

Of course Fr. Angles denied it and told the cops the doors are open, go look anywhere you want. They didn't find a thing because it wasn't true. Another major whopper was that Fr. Angles had bunch of angry SSPXers shoot up Fr. Rizzo's house...

Nope. Neither Fr. Angles or SSPX Parishioners had anything to do with it & Fr. Rizzo knew it. The truth: It was a drive by shooting by gang bangers after a boy Fr. Rizzo let stay at his home—against his parents wishes, I might add.

For Michael Gonzalez

He didn't commit suicide and there is no suicide note. Gonzalez was a member of the gang that shot up Fr. Rizzo's house, and his death by murder, was gang related.

The Gonzalez family is a very troubled one. Michael's father is an admitted pedophile who abused his own kids & grand children. The mother abandoned the family. Michael's sister Teresa, a victim of incest, is now an anti-Catholic who identifies as a witch.

Her allegations are self serving, and the payoff from Fr. Angles she refers to was the act of a generous pastor, who forgave all the bills of large families who couldn't pay & those who wanted to leave to follow Fr. Rizzo. Michael & Teresa also have another uncle in jail for a shooting & another who abandoned his wife & 10 kids, a few of whom were molested by his father.

About Kurt Chione.

As I pointed out to Niles when the CM report came out, Kurt Chione has an axe to grind, something that Niles could have found out if she had vetted his claims.

For one thing, Kurt Chione has a criminal record for stealing and selling Church property.

Right, like "When did you stop beating your wife?" Kurt Chione claims Gonzales told him that Fr. Angles raped him, that he was fired for reporting it. It might be possible he was fired for another reason & took the chance to settle an old score.
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Kurt also blames the SSPX priests for his divorce. You see he was arrested for beating up his wife, and a very wonderful priest, Fr. Novak, helped her. Kurt's response was to lie about him & all the other priests. So to get revenge

He made up this bull about Fr. Novak--he was the anonymous crying phone call cited by Niles in her fake report. Want some proof? Here you go.

Here's Kurt singing the praises of the SSPX for helping his marriage..

Here is another post where he states he has been an SSPX supporter since 1978. Note the date: 2016. He doesn't sound like someone who believes the SSPX protects pedophiles. He sent his own children to the SSPX schools!

Nothing but love in this post:

Now look at the date on this post—January of this year. You know what else happened in January on the 19th? Jassy Jacas posted her accusations.


Well, well, well. One of Christine Niles' star "witnesses" had a very different attitude to the SSPX just a few months ago.

What changed between then and now? Church Militant happened. He got the opportunity to settle some scores. He fabricated the Gonzalez story to get even. He blames the priests for his marriage failing. He is a loser who has never taken responsibility for his action.
Glamdring
I was in St. Mary's during the time of "The Great Schism." I can say that the "DefendTruth" defense above is factually incorrect and full of half truths.

1. The letter from the teacher did exist. I personally know the young man who received the letter.

Fr. Rizzo and the parent were concerned because this letter fell into the category of predatory grooming. There was nothing in the letter …More
I was in St. Mary's during the time of "The Great Schism." I can say that the "DefendTruth" defense above is factually incorrect and full of half truths.

1. The letter from the teacher did exist. I personally know the young man who received the letter.

Fr. Rizzo and the parent were concerned because this letter fell into the category of predatory grooming. There was nothing in the letter itself that could be construed as inappropriate, the problem was this teacher already had a reputation for being a threat to young men.

2. Saying Michael Gonzalez was in a gang is like saying Canada has a formidable army. It's none sense. Furthermore, people who attended Fr. Rizzo's mass had the lugnuts removed from their FAMILY VAN. Glue was put in the lock of the bank where his Mass was being offered.

3. Fr. Rizzo did not come up with the militia claim. I personally agree that this claim was silly, but it wasn't Rizzo. It was a former parishioner.

4. Fr. Rizzo didn't caused the break in the St. Marys community, Fr. Rizzo came to St. Marys because the fissure already existed because people were tired of Fr. Angles draconian rule.

5. The attacks on Chione are weak. Why? Because Chione, like most of us, were aware of all of these incidents of abuse and coverup.

Personally, I think CM's article was bias. There were things in it that were speculative.

What is so important is that victims are coming forward now. The clericalism that is rife in SSPX communities is losing its power.

The Vampires (pederasts and pedophiles) that exist in these communities are scared because the sun is rising.

I encourage everyone to pray for the Church, pray for our priests, and pray that the perverts get what's coming to them.
Glamdring
Edit: 5. The attacks on Chione are weak. Why? Because Chione, like most of us, wasn't aware in 2016 of all of these incidents of abuse and coverup. There are people too afraid to come forward, and there are other stories untold because it's too painful. But the KBI is on it and the truth will come to light soon enough.
Outlier
I was in St. Mary's at the time and I am still here. Are you referring to this Kurt Chione?
chippewa.com/…/article_014a9f1…
Or are you referring to this Kurt Chione?
www.newspapers.com/…/chione-pleads-g…Or is the Kurt Chione that said this?
Oh wait, those are *all* the same Kurt Chione who beats his wife and has been left by her since. Sheesh! Get a life and stop making things up, will you?
Outlier
Kurt Chione, what a piece of work. So this is your stellar witness, eh? He stole from St. Mary's before he left us, yes he did.
chippewa.com/…/article_014a9f1…
www.newspapers.com/…/chione-pleads-g…
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Outlier
Also his wife left him because she got tired of him beating her. Matter of record.
xandergracie
Also, check out Randy Engel and her very well-researched article, “The Men Behind Opus Dei”. Voris is not whom he seems.
Alex A
A very welcome 'counter' to some of CM's attack on the SSPX. This, of course, does not mitigate all the charges laid at the feet of the Society or indeed minimise the harm to the alleged abused and their families. There have been serious cases of mismanagement, denial, and a clear violation of the duty of care for the faithful. Avoidance of scandal has been the primary motivation of those in …More
A very welcome 'counter' to some of CM's attack on the SSPX. This, of course, does not mitigate all the charges laid at the feet of the Society or indeed minimise the harm to the alleged abused and their families. There have been serious cases of mismanagement, denial, and a clear violation of the duty of care for the faithful. Avoidance of scandal has been the primary motivation of those in positions of authority at the expense of really listening to those brave enough attempting to report cases of actual abuse and/or occasions of potential abuse. The current hierarchy of the SSPX needs to 'clean house' ASAP. Further, an 'open letter' apology from the Superior General of the SSPX would go some way towards regaining the trust of the faithful.
salliperson
God bless the Bishops and priests of the SSPX and Bless all priests who offer the Latin mass. Thank you! Remember, the Christ haters crucified Our Lord, so they continue to, try, destroy His church. One day, God forbid, we may wake up without any church to attend. Indefinitely.
salliperson
God bless the Society and their Bishops and priests. Thank you SSPX for carrying on the traditional Latin mass.
Ultraviolet
...the one wearing the best body-armour Jim Dorchak ;-)
Jim Dorchak
Who is left standing in this circular firing squad?