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E Michael Jones finally banished

Tesa
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Youtube uses its portal for its own message. What did we expect?
Jmy1975
EMJ is a Jew hater misrepresenting Catholic dogma to advance his hatred. He is a shameful human being.
herrick
Which dogma does EMJ misrepresent?
Ultraviolet
Jones is a bigot, hiding behind a Catholic faith he doesn't follow. Swap the word "Christians" for "Jews" and he reads like the worst of the radical left today.
Arthur McGowan
Baloney. All a person needs to do to know you are lying about Jones is to read his articles and books. Your lies will fall by the wayside.
Ultraviolet
You've accused me twice of lying, Arthur McGowan. When I called Jones a bigot, I made a point of backing up my claim. You should follow my example.

So quote the lies I supposedly told directly, word for word, and then link evidence disproving them. That should be easy enough. ;-) Yes, I'm handing you a shovel and waiting for you to dig the hole so I can push you into it.
herrick
From the article you referenced:

In his book, The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and its Impact on World History, Jones quotes passages in the New Testament supposedly proving that the Jews are the children of Satan. Should such scriptures be read literally? I should think the scriptures carry a deeper spiritual message, requiring an understanding of symbolical and metaphoric allusions — in …More
From the article you referenced:

In his book, The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and its Impact on World History, Jones quotes passages in the New Testament supposedly proving that the Jews are the children of Satan. Should such scriptures be read literally? I should think the scriptures carry a deeper spiritual message, requiring an understanding of symbolical and metaphoric allusions — in respect of the soul and transcendence. Jones weaponizes those allusions to persuade his reader that the eradication of Jewish influence would allow the manifestation of God’s intended order on earth. This proposition bears a striking likeness to totalitarian Utopianism. Thus, as Eric Voegelin would say, Jones is a gnostic whose claim to knowledge centers on allegations of Jewish villainy. In doing this he has politicized the scriptures by way of antisemitism — all in a quest to “immanentize the gnostic eschaton.” In other words, he proposes antisemitism as a path to salvation. But this salvation is political and cultural, not spiritual. He seeks salvation in the world — through anti-Jewish agitation — eschewing the transcendent altogether.

Does living in a society that promotes sin have nothing to do with one's eternal salvation?
Ultraviolet
"Does living in a society that promotes sin have nothing to do with one's eternal salvation?"

-a rhetorical question that does nothing to refute my claim that Jones is a bigot., particularly against Jews. Quite the opposite given the content you cited.. Likewise, it does nothing to support Arthur McGowan's accusation that I have told a lie.

Your fallacy is:
herrick
Since you deem my question to be a rhetorical one, am I to understand you disagree with the argument made by the author of the article you referenced?
Ultraviolet
You are to understand that your question is irrelevant to either disproving my claim or supporting Arthur McGowan's. As such, it's a distraction, a red-herring in the classic sense. That's what you're to understand. Since you asked. ;-)
AngelusMaria
It's terrible that some of you are misrepresenting EMJ and calumniating him. If you would actually READ what he writes, esp his Jewish Revolutionary Spirit, you will find it very beautiful. Many Jews have converted because of it, and many anti-semites have been delivered from their antisemitism because of it. It is a very Catholic understanding of Christ as Logos, why the rejection of Logos (…More
It's terrible that some of you are misrepresenting EMJ and calumniating him. If you would actually READ what he writes, esp his Jewish Revolutionary Spirit, you will find it very beautiful. Many Jews have converted because of it, and many anti-semites have been delivered from their antisemitism because of it. It is a very Catholic understanding of Christ as Logos, why the rejection of Logos (Word Made Flesh) and the choosing of Barabbas (the revolutionary) has been the pattern of Jewish activity from that moment on, and explains much more. His work is based heavily on Church Documents and Jewish authors themselves. Rabbis and Jewish Scholars have had him on their shows, agreeing he is not an antisemite. You have to actually dive into his work and once you do, you will be happy you did. EMJ is one of the good guys. Shame on you false witnesses and calumniators. Do your homework. Actually read his book, you will learn so much, and you might even discover a new appreciation for the struggles we are in.
Cruzat
EMJ is a decent intellectual. He is being honest about many issues, that is why there are so many people listening to what he says and reading what he writes. That is also why there are so many infiltrators trying to tarnish his reputation by calling him anti-semite.
Be Ye Separate
EMJ naming Jews as a people of revolt/chaos is correct.
Bolshevik Jews assisted in the murdering of many millions of Russians, in the first half of the 20th century.
Some of these brutal Bolshevik Jews went to Spain in the 1930's from Russia. These Jews agitated Spaniards and assisted in murdering many Catholics, including priests and nuns. They also took part in the destruction of numerous …More
EMJ naming Jews as a people of revolt/chaos is correct.
Bolshevik Jews assisted in the murdering of many millions of Russians, in the first half of the 20th century.
Some of these brutal Bolshevik Jews went to Spain in the 1930's from Russia. These Jews agitated Spaniards and assisted in murdering many Catholics, including priests and nuns. They also took part in the destruction of numerous Catholic Churches.
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As Jesus teaches us, men can only have life in Him. All else is death, confusion and destruction.
Ultraviolet
"It's terrible that some of you are misrepresenting EMJ and calumniating him." -AngelusMaria

Calumny and misrepresentation are based on a contradiction between what is claimed and what actually is. I accuse EMJ of being a bigot and and anti-Semite. His own writings support that claim. . For you to prove I'm misrepresenting and culumniating EMJ, you must show he is NOT a bigot and NOT an …More
"It's terrible that some of you are misrepresenting EMJ and calumniating him." -AngelusMaria

Calumny and misrepresentation are based on a contradiction between what is claimed and what actually is. I accuse EMJ of being a bigot and and anti-Semite. His own writings support that claim. . For you to prove I'm misrepresenting and culumniating EMJ, you must show he is NOT a bigot and NOT an anti-Semite. Good luck with that. Just because you happen to agree with a bigot and an anti-Semite doesn't show that my claim is incorrect.

"Many Jews have converted because of it, and many anti-semites have been delivered from their antisemitism because of it."

Your say-so isn't good enough. Start by showing how a Jew who follows Judaism is "anti-semitic".

"His work is based heavily on Church Documents and Jewish authors themselves."

His work is in direct opposition with the official teachings of the Catholic Church. Just so you know. ;-)

"Rabbis and Jewish Scholars have had him on their shows, agreeing he is not an antisemite."

Care to prove that? I can prove he's been on Iranian TV precisely because they agree with his anti-Semitic drivel.

"you might even discover a new appreciation for the struggles we are in."

I already do appreciat the struggle we're in. People who hate The Church can point to bigoted morons like you and say, "THESE are Catholics. THESE are the 'traditionalists'! If you disagree with Francis, you're just like THESE people." Simply put,you're disagrace and an embarrassment to normal Catholics and a wonderful tool for The Church's enemies to use.

"That is also why there are so many infiltrators trying to tarnish his reputation by calling him anti-semite." @Cruzat

The only "infiltrators" on GTV are Jew-haters who've been kicked off every regularly moderated Catholic online venue and are trying to pervert site into a recruiting center for EMJ's bigoted philosophy. It's impossible to tarnish the reputation of a man who's spent decades blackening it himself.

"Bolshevik Jews assisted in the murdering of many millions of Russians, in the first half of the 20th century."

Sure. That's why the leaders of the Russian Revolution were Russians. Idiot. You're not even trying.
AngelusMaria
Don't be silly. Your verbage fails in fact. Pick up the book and read. You are acting awfully. Elsewhere on this site @giveusthisday posted a link to a victims video exposing Epstein-Israeli and Jewish hatred www.youtube.com/watch
AngelusMaria
@Ultraviolet...See interview with Charles Moscowitz "Logos + Privilege." Also see Charles Moscowitz interview with EMJ (March , 25, 2019) The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit. You'll have to search for these, UltraViolet, because YouTube and other entities such as yourself who are not interested in open debate but slinging scare-words meant to silence are deplatforming honest discussion.
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@Ultraviolet...See interview with Charles Moscowitz "Logos + Privilege." Also see Charles Moscowitz interview with EMJ (March , 25, 2019) The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit. You'll have to search for these, UltraViolet, because YouTube and other entities such as yourself who are not interested in open debate but slinging scare-words meant to silence are deplatforming honest discussion.
His own writings do not support the claim that he is antisemite. You are the one hurling accusations, just like the Accuser himself, who could proof text to our Lord because he didn't care to have the whole story. I'm not going to waste time trying to disprove your slander of this man. I
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AngelusMaria
@Ultraviolet, Read also Henry Makow, PhD review of Jewish Revolutionary Spirit rense.com/general82/revo.htm
Or Bradley Rothstein's review, who correctly observes, "It’s really hopeless when anyone who tries to discuss the Jews is instantly accused of being anti-Semitic if his conclusions point out any Jewish misbehavior.”
Ultraviolet
"Your verbage fails in fact." @AngelusMaria

It might help if you spelled the word correctly while using it incorrectly. A demand that you prove your accusations can not fail in fact because you havne't done so.

"Pick up the book and read. You are acting awfully."

As I've told others, one does not need to consume error in order to recognize it IS error.

Here's an example... Have you read …More
"Your verbage fails in fact." @AngelusMaria

It might help if you spelled the word correctly while using it incorrectly. A demand that you prove your accusations can not fail in fact because you havne't done so.

"Pick up the book and read. You are acting awfully."

As I've told others, one does not need to consume error in order to recognize it IS error.

Here's an example... Have you read the Satanic Bible and Satanic Rituals by Anton Szandor LaVey? How about the Teachings Of Baphomet or The Stgyian Spiral? Either in translation or the original Latin? Yes or no?

No? Then using YOUR logic, you can't criticize those books or denounce them as filled with Satanic blasphemy since you haven't read them.

In fact, I'm certain you would refuse to read such blasphemous filth, simply because you're familiar with the content of the books. The same is true with E. Michael Jones.

What he promotes is contrary to the words of Christ in the Gospels and the Teachings of the Catholic Church on this subject.

Since I am aware of this, I do -in fact- have an obligation to AVOID material contrary to the Faith.

You are right about my behavior, though. I'm taking an enormous amount of pleasure in mocking you and exposing your errors in reasoning and your ignorance of the Church.

It's not a good thing to do, but in your case it's entirely well deserved.

"Elsewhere on this site @giveusthisday posted a link to a victims video exposing Epstein-Israeli and Jewish hatred"

Some day people like you will realize "youtube videos" are the same kind of content as the anti-Catholic garbage you see on CNN or MSNBC.

It's a video presentation filled with snappy quotes, evocative images, and aimed at appealing to idiots who can't read. Ironic since you're the one demanding I read a bigot's book..

If you'd like to have a scholarly debate on E. Michael Jones, bring it!

Mentioning video interviews isn't evidence of anything. By contrast, when I say E. Michael Jones' theology is in serious error, I can show factual proof of that. Like so:

www.catholicleague.org/playing-fast-an…

That isn't Youtube, that isn't an interview, it's a point-by-point deconstruction of his errors.

"His own writings do not support the claim that he is antisemite."

Ah. Now we are getting somewhere. ;-) Easily disproven.

"Abortion is a Jewish sacrament."
-E. Michael Jones
twitter.com/…/121578181829057…

That is, of course, a factual untruth. There is no "sacrament" of abortion in Judaism.

Consequently, it is a defamation of the Jewish religion.

Ergo, he is an anti-Semite. See? THAT is how you prove a claim. Or disprove someone else's, in this case yours. You said Jones' writing doesn't support the claim he is an antisemite

I quoted Jones' writing directly and then showed why that writing is anti-semitic. Therefore your claim is false and, again, I have shown E. Michael Jones is both a bigot and an anti-Semite.

"You are the one hurling accusations, just like the Accuser himself."

...and my accusations have factual support behind them. But what of Jones? All he ever does is accuse the Jews, both as a religion and as a race of one thing after another.

If you are offended by "The Accuser" then you should take equal offense at a rabid Jew-hating bigot who does nothing except make accusations. But since you agree with The Accuser and his libel of the Jewish faith, you're only too happy to sit there reverently turning page after page of a book filled with accusations.

"I'm not going to waste time trying to disprove your slander of this man."

Mainly because you can't and we both know it. Spare me your false concerns about wasting your time.

...because you'll gladly waste it slandering me.

Amazing how selective the value of your time, eh?
AngelusMaria
Somehow I missed this response of yours. I will be including my rebuttals to it in our discussion on the Libido Dominandi post.
Ultraviolet
Lovely. ;-) :P
Be Ye Separate
Jones criticizes the hatred of Christians by the Talmud Jews.
He also points out the immense amount of cultural destruction caused by the Jews in media: selling pornography, peddling violence, transgender unicorns, numerous perversions.
The woman who runs YouTube is a Jew, she has censored this media outlet much.
Many Jews will sell you the most perverse pornography, yet they will censor you for …More
Jones criticizes the hatred of Christians by the Talmud Jews.
He also points out the immense amount of cultural destruction caused by the Jews in media: selling pornography, peddling violence, transgender unicorns, numerous perversions.
The woman who runs YouTube is a Jew, she has censored this media outlet much.
Many Jews will sell you the most perverse pornography, yet they will censor you for criticizing them.
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Without Jesus, these false Jews have no boundaries.
Cruzat
I totally agree with Be Ye Separate.
F M Shyanguya
Key concepts in E. Michael Jones’ thesis is the Logos, Christ himself, who the Jews rejected, thus creating in themselves a Jewish Revolutionary spirit that not only wars against the Logos, but also against Logos’ plan for his creation. One can only be a destroyer and not a builder if one wars against the Creator.

One way the revolutionaries achieve their aims is via “libido dominandi”.

I do …More
Key concepts in E. Michael Jones’ thesis is the Logos, Christ himself, who the Jews rejected, thus creating in themselves a Jewish Revolutionary spirit that not only wars against the Logos, but also against Logos’ plan for his creation. One can only be a destroyer and not a builder if one wars against the Creator.

One way the revolutionaries achieve their aims is via “libido dominandi”.

I do believe E.Michael Jones is doing work for Logos.