Jan Joseph
Meer dan 50% van de priesters, bisschoppen, kardinalen en paus Franciscus zelf die het Rooms Katholieke geloof van na het Tweede Vaticaanse Concilie zeggen te belijden, geloven niet meer in God. Dit in tegenstelling tot de Priesters van de organisatie van de Pius X Broederschap die het Universele Tridentijnse Rooms Katholieke geloof belijden en die niet tot de organisatie van de Rooms Katholieke …More
Meer dan 50% van de priesters, bisschoppen, kardinalen en paus Franciscus zelf die het Rooms Katholieke geloof van na het Tweede Vaticaanse Concilie zeggen te belijden, geloven niet meer in God. Dit in tegenstelling tot de Priesters van de organisatie van de Pius X Broederschap die het Universele Tridentijnse Rooms Katholieke geloof belijden en die niet tot de organisatie van de Rooms Katholieke kerk behoren, geloven allemaal in God en zijn met hun geloofsovertuiging een voorbeeld voor veel gelovigen en ongelovigen. Het aantal zeer jonge bekeerlingen die zich bekeren tot het Universele Tridentijnse Rooms Katholieke geloof van voor het Tweede Vaticaanse Concilie en het aantal priesterroepingen is sterk stijgende bij de Pius X Broederschap. Het Universele Tridentijnse Rooms Katholieke geloof van voor het Tweede Vaticaanse Concilie is een totaal ander geloof dan het Rooms Katholieke geloof van na het Tweede Vaticaanse Concilie. Het is paradoxaal maar het Rooms Katholieke geloof van na het Tweede Vaticaanse Concilie van de officiële Rooms Katholieke kerk van Rome is het oude geloof dat stervende is en het Nieuwe Rooms Katholieke geloof is het Universele Tridentijnse Rooms Katholieke geloof van voor het Tweede Vaticaanse Concilie dat door de organisatie van de Pius X Broederschap wordt verkondigd.
Live Mike
"The apostasy of the city of Rome from the vicar of Christ and its destruction by Antichrist may be thoughts so new to many Catholics, that I think it well to recite the text of theologians of greatest repute. First Malvenda, who writes expressly on the subject, states as the opinion of Ribera, Gaspar Melus, Biegas, Suarrez, Bellarmine and Bosius that Rome shall apostatise from the faith, drive…More
"The apostasy of the city of Rome from the vicar of Christ and its destruction by Antichrist may be thoughts so new to many Catholics, that I think it well to recite the text of theologians of greatest repute. First Malvenda, who writes expressly on the subject, states as the opinion of Ribera, Gaspar Melus, Biegas, Suarrez, Bellarmine and Bosius that Rome shall apostatise from the faith, drive away the Vicar of Christ and return to its ancient paganism.” “Then the Church shall be scattered, driven into the wilderness, and shall be for a time, as it was in the beginning, invisible hidden in catacombs, in dens, in mountains, in lurking places; for a time it shall be swept, as it were from the face of the earth. Such is the universal testimony of the Fathers of the early Church." - Cardinal Henry Edward Manning, The Present Crisis of the Holy See, 1861, London: Burns and Lambert, p. 88-90, p. 79

Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani, reader of the Third Secret of Fatima, made reference to one of its themes on the 15th of December 1960. In an allocution to the members of the Marian International Academy he declared, "It suffices to cast a rapid glance at what is happening at this moment in the world, in order to recognize that without the intervention of the Mother of all mercy near the All-Powerful, the world risks becoming pagan once more, a paganism more deplorable than the first paganism, because it is aggravated by apostasy. We are witnessing a veritable deluge of sins, a deluge which leaves behind it a nauseating quagmire, infected by immorality, lies and blasphemy..." - “Documentation Catholique,” 1961, col. 244, (15 December 1960 - Allocution de S. Em. Le cardinal Ottaviani à l'Académie Mariale Internationale)
Advocata
“One day, through the Rosary and the Scapular, Our Lady will save the world.” ~Saint Dominic
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I am wearing my scapular.
SHJ-IHM
He said that in 1958 and enthusiastically sided with the liberals at Vatican II ?
John A Cassani
In hindsight, he would probably agree with you. However, there were not more than a couple hundred actual “conservative” bishops at Vatican II. The conservatives of the day were routed from the very beginning, with the swift rejection of Cardinal Ottaviani’s schema, when his microphone was famously tuned off to the raucous applause of many (classless) bishops. The Council effected a revolution, …More
In hindsight, he would probably agree with you. However, there were not more than a couple hundred actual “conservative” bishops at Vatican II. The conservatives of the day were routed from the very beginning, with the swift rejection of Cardinal Ottaviani’s schema, when his microphone was famously tuned off to the raucous applause of many (classless) bishops. The Council effected a revolution, turning the liberals of the day, who still wanted to be Catholics, like Wojtyła and Ratzinger, into the new conservatives. The old heretics were then accepted as the liberal wing. We reap the “benefits” today.
Orthocat
Remember, even Archbishop Lefebvre signed the documents of Vatican II "in agreement" - there was an option to merely indicate 'present" if one didn't want to disagree.
Irishpol
John Cassini—I’ve heard that representation in the past, namely that there were only a few hundred of the bishops who were still “conservative” at the time of the Council. Yet, I’ve never been able to find any authoritive source for it. Can you help me out in that regard. I would greatly appreciate it.
philosopher
@Irishpol - a good source for answering your question is "Iota Unum" by Romano Amerio.