Cardinal Burke: It Would Be “Difficult” To Deny that Benedict Has Resigned

In order to counter widespread doubts on the validity of Benedict XVI’s resignation, LifeSiteNews.com spoke on February 14 with Cardinal Burke. The origin of the doubts is Benedict himself. He sugges…
Dr Bobus Please clarify the point you're trynig to convey. "The problem is that munus is used in two ways: The Sacramental actions based in Potestas Ordinis and the actions based in Potestas Iurisdictionis."
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The problem is that munus is used in two ways: The Sacramental actions based in Potestas Ordinis and the actions based in Potestas Iurisdictionis.
Dr Bobus Please clarify the point you're trynig to convey.
The bishops are subject to the pope who is their master in authority in the traditional Catholic teaching. Unfortunately, VII 'Council' amplified the doctrine of primacy from the First Vatican Council by giving greater weight to the Episcopal ministry. Thereby all somehow rule the Church together with the Roman Pontiff. I.e. in Lumen Gentium bishops rule with the pope many times. This is …More
The bishops are subject to the pope who is their master in authority in the traditional Catholic teaching. Unfortunately, VII 'Council' amplified the doctrine of primacy from the First Vatican Council by giving greater weight to the Episcopal ministry. Thereby all somehow rule the Church together with the Roman Pontiff. I.e. in Lumen Gentium bishops rule with the pope many times. This is deviation from truth by which papacy has been enriched by men amplifying, expanding and enriching divine constitution established by Christ and doctrinally confirmed, i.e. in Pastor Aeternus.

Cardinal's statement is in contradiction to Pope Benedict's document and reality. However, it is logical, philosophically consequent and in line with their election of Francis and renewal of absolute dedication and unconditional love for his august person Francis, in whom they recognize the Successor of Peter and the Vicar of Jesus. Munus and ministerium should occur mutually in practice, in as much as, the Episcopal order is in communion with Peter, as Christ commanded, to be subject to and obey Peter. "Otherwise it necessarily becomes a lawless and disorderly crowd." (cf Satis Cognitum 15)

In consequence, exercising power of teaching and ruling (ministerio) by a Roman Pontiff is dependent upon the bishops' communion with Peter's successor. It is clear that it was not so in the case of Pope Benedict XVI after numerous documented external and internal attacks. Whilst mafia of Cardinals from Saint Gallen plotting to overthrow BXVI has officially revealed itself the remaining Princes have decided to remain silent after having elected a second 'pope'. One, whether a canonist or a simple man, will not understand what happened unless the papal crisis is analysed integrally instead of its particular elements taken out of context.

Pope Benedict XVI received munus (Petrine Office) what is conferred forever. Unfortunately, he was practically unable to exercise power (ministerio) for aforementioned reason and therefore only abdicated from teaching and ruling but not visibility of Pope. In his first homily he has clearly foreseen this fact of wolves in sheep skin making him flee. ["Pray for me, that I may not flee for fear of the wolves."] Practically flee from ministry to the quasi-shared Petrine Office stemming from Conciliar collegiality against Scripture, Magisterium and decree of Roman Rota making it not valid and still true POPE, as there can not be more than one pope.
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So much useless argument. Why not seek the true answer to the matter? THE TRUTH, in the OWN words of the reputed elected
What did Bergoglio say when he showed up for Loggia on March 13, 2013?
"Everyone knows that the duty of the Conclave was to give A BISHOP TO ROME."
"The Archdiocese of Rome already has HIS BISHOP."
"I ask you to join me in praying for THE BISHOP EMER…More
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So much useless argument. Why not seek the true answer to the matter? THE TRUTH, in the OWN words of the reputed elected
What did Bergoglio say when he showed up for Loggia on March 13, 2013?
"Everyone knows that the duty of the Conclave was to give A BISHOP TO ROME."
"The Archdiocese of Rome already has HIS BISHOP."
"I ask you to join me in praying for THE BISHOP EMERITUS BENEDICT XVI."
Therefore, Bergoglio himself RECOGNIZED NOT BEING A POPE but he was recognized as Bishop of the Diocese of Rome. It was Bergoglio himself who recognized Benedict XVI as Bishop Emeritus of Rome, and therefore, STILL POPE.
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It might be difficult but because we cannot say impossible its left unclear which is the very problem.

Cardinal Burke says that the Pope uses the terms interchangeably (which is reasonable in prose “The munus and the ministerium are inseparable,”). However then he goes on to say that “The munus is a grace that’s conferred, and only in virtue of that grace can one carry out the ministry.” …More
It might be difficult but because we cannot say impossible its left unclear which is the very problem.

Cardinal Burke says that the Pope uses the terms interchangeably (which is reasonable in prose “The munus and the ministerium are inseparable,”). However then he goes on to say that “The munus is a grace that’s conferred, and only in virtue of that grace can one carry out the ministry.” Therefore, “if one no longer has that grace because he has withdrawn his will to be the Vicar of Christ on earth, then he can’t be exercising the Petrine ministry.”

Here Cardinal Burke makes a distinction between munus and ministry. If he is able to make that distinction then is it not reasonable to assume that Pope Benedict himself, a far more erudite man, might also? If the code of law asks for the resignation of the "munus" then the absence of that term in that particular part of statement that seeks to satisfy the legal requirement is very odd. The fact that this anomaly is pertaining to the THE RESIGNATION OF A POPE, a matter of monumental importance, is very troubling to me. Cardinal Burke says “The Church would become completely destabilized if we couldn’t depend upon certain juridical acts which carry effects.” Nobody disagrees with this. However, if you do not use the language specified by the canon then how do you know there was a juridical act in the first place? Cardinal Burke seems to be judging that Pope Benedict intended munus to equal ministerium.

In relation to Ganswein ,why was no clear answer given to the very precise and clarifying question posed?

Presenting these concerns to Archbishop Gänswein, we asked him: “Did Pope Benedict intend to resign the Petrine munus as named in canon law (canon 332.2), or just the public actions that pertain to that munus?”

He did not answer Pope Benedict intended and in fact did resign the Petrine Munus as named in Canon 332.2.

His answer was

“I have already cleared up the ‘misunderstanding’ several times,” he responded. “It makes no sense at all, no, even more, it is counterproductive to insist on this ‘misunderstanding’ and to quote me again and again. This is absurd and leads to self-harm [Selbstzerfleischung]. I have clearly said that there is only one Pope, one legitimately elected and incumbent Pope, and that is Francis. Amen.”
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Excellent observations!
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The whole thing is not a natural occurrence. It is fishy from the start. I'm sure the NWO crowd engineered in some way and pressured him or gave him an ultimatum or pushed him in some way to resign. I do believe that he made the wrong choice as if he thought there was some chance that He was doing the right thing for the Church and him resigning would be the least damaging option for the Church. …More
The whole thing is not a natural occurrence. It is fishy from the start. I'm sure the NWO crowd engineered in some way and pressured him or gave him an ultimatum or pushed him in some way to resign. I do believe that he made the wrong choice as if he thought there was some chance that He was doing the right thing for the Church and him resigning would be the least damaging option for the Church. But, In my humble opinion-he was wrong. I think He should have just proclaimed the Truth and let the chips fall were they may. Truth needs to be the order of the day. We need to be willing to bare the consequences of proclaiming the TRUTH. Yes accompanied by Love and Mercy---but the TRUTH!
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Cardinal Burke is a holy man and reputable canon lawyer.
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Benedict is my Pope and I love him.
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Benedict abandoned his family and let an abuser move into the house.
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Is Benedict in his home? No, he's still on the Vatican, therefore he didn't abandond his family. There's enough evidence that supports he was being pressured and were death threats. The information is available for all to see.
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Quo vadis? Romam eo iterum crucifigi.
Actually, the proof is in the pudding, and oh, what a pudding we’ve been served.
It is impossible to prove threats while the victim publicly denies them, perhaps because of them. Yet there is a growing chain of convincing circumstantial evidence of just such a threat. Begin here: taylormarshall.com/…/213-pope-benedi… and also consider James Grine's testimony to Dr. Taylor Marshall in Marshall's archives Numbers 188 and 197 here: taylormarshall.com/podcastarchive I, persona…More
It is impossible to prove threats while the victim publicly denies them, perhaps because of them. Yet there is a growing chain of convincing circumstantial evidence of just such a threat. Begin here: taylormarshall.com/…/213-pope-benedi… and also consider James Grine's testimony to Dr. Taylor Marshall in Marshall's archives Numbers 188 and 197 here: taylormarshall.com/podcastarchive I, personally, am convinced that Benedict XVI's resignation is invalid.
I pray for him, myself, and our/Christ's Church, as well as our civilization and countries.