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Statement of Support for the Four Cardinals’ Dubia

As Catholic scholars and pastors of souls, we wish to express our profound gratitude and full support for the courageous initiative of four members of the College of Cardinals, Their Eminences Walter …More
As Catholic scholars and pastors of souls, we wish to express our profound gratitude and full support for the courageous initiative of four members of the College of Cardinals, Their Eminences Walter Brandmüller, Raymond Leo Burke, Carlo Caffarra and Joachim Meisner. As has been widely publicized, these cardinals have formally submitted five dubia to Pope Francis, asking him to clarify five fundamental points of Catholic doctrine and sacramental discipline, the treatment of which in Chapter 8 of the recent Apostolic Exhortation Amoris Laetitia (AL) appears to conflict with Scripture and/or Tradition and the teaching of previous papal documents – notably Pope St. John Paul II’s Encyclical Veritatis Splendor and his Apostolic Exhortation Familiaris Consortio. Pope Francis has so far declined to answer the four cardinals; but since they are in effect asking him whether the above weighty magisterial documents still require our full assent, we think that the Holy Father’s continued silence …More
Lionel L. Andrades
DECEMBER 10, 2016
Scholars supporting four cardinals in major philosophical mistake
The 23 Scholars who have signed a Statement in support of the four cardinals and the Dubbia like the present magisterium have made a major philosophical mistake.They include Dr.Joseph Shaw a professor of philosophy.
Like the four cardinals the Catholic scholars have overlooked an error which would be obvious to a …
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DECEMBER 10, 2016

Scholars supporting four cardinals in major philosophical mistake

The 23 Scholars who have signed a Statement in support of the four cardinals and the Dubbia like the present magisterium have made a major philosophical mistake.They include Dr.Joseph Shaw a professor of philosophy.

Like the four cardinals the Catholic scholars have overlooked an error which would be obvious to a school boy or a non Catholic who is not educated.

As I mentioned in a previous blog post the following four errors are made by the present magisterium.
They are also made by the four cardinals and the 23 scholars who support them.
1.From the philosophical point of view a catechumen who desires to receive the baptism of water but dies before he can receive it, is a hypothetical case for us?
My answer is YES.It is a hypothetical case.
The scholars and the cardinals infer that it is not a hypothetical case, for them.It is an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. This was the theological position of the Letter of the Holy Office 194 9 which they allsupport. The error of the Letter was based on this philosophical reasoning.
2.So if someone says that this case of the catechumen is physically visible in 2016 and personally known to us then this would be false reasoning.? My answer is YES.

The cardinals and scholars over looked Vatican Council II(AG 7 and LG 14) making this same error.Vatican Council II mentions the case of the catechumen and places it along with orthodox text which says all need faith and baptism for salvation, the Church is necessary for salvation.

3.Would it violate the Principle of Non Contrradiction if someone said this case was visible in the present times, and was personally known?
My answer Yes.
So we have cardinals and scholars violating the Principle of Non Contradiction.Then they act as if all is normal.
The violate the Principle of Non Contradiction when they assume someone invisible is visible.They infer that someone who does not exist on earth actually exists and is known.Someone who is not concrete and tangible it is assumed to be defacto and real in present time and space and is an example of salvation without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.

4.Similarly this case of a catechumen in the past too would be hypothetical for the people of that time, since it cannot be physically visible and known in personal cases?
My answer is YES.

Yet some of the traditionalists assume that there is a St. Emerentiana in Heaven with the baptism of desire and without the baptism of water.This is as if someone saw her physically in Heaven.Or it is as if the Church has made an official pronouncement that she went to Heaven without the baptism of water.It is made to appear that this was personally known to someone in the Catholic Church and so this announcement was made.

TWO QUESTIONS TRADITIONALISTS,SEDEVACANTISTS DO NOT ANSWER

1) Do we personally know the dead now saved in invincible ignorance, a good conscience (LG 16) etc,can we see them, are they physically visible to us in 2016 ?
My answer is that they we cannot see them. They are not physically visible and personally known in our time and space.

The cardinals, including the four mentioned here, will not answer or broach this question.

2) Since we do not know any of these cases, in real life, they are not visible for us, there are no known exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, or Ad Gentes 7 which states 'all' need 'faith and baptism' for salvation? My answer is that they are not exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus . They were never exceptions in the first place. Rome made a mistake in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.
However the new theology of the four cardinals and the 23 scholars is based upon this error and they do not want to talk about it or admit it.
-Lionel Andrades

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DECEMBER 10, 2016

The present magisterium has made a major philosophical mistake
eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/…/the-present-mag…

DECEMBER 10, 2016

The source of the present Arian-like heresy throughout the Church is a philosophy which interprets invisible persons as being visible and so a non traditional conclusion is created
eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/…/the-source-of-p…
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