Unfortunate Norms: Vatican Cannot Find Anything "Supernatural" Anymore

On 17 May, Tucho Fernández published guidelines on alleged supernatural phenomena entitled "Norms for proceeding in the discernment of alleged supernatural phenomena." The main change: Neither the …More
On 17 May, Tucho Fernández published guidelines on alleged supernatural phenomena entitled "Norms for proceeding in the discernment of alleged supernatural phenomena."
The main change: Neither the local bishop nor the Vatican will declare that phenomena are of supernatural origin, but the Vatican can authorise the local bishop to declare that a phenomenon is "not supernatural".
There is no provision in these norms for ecclesiastical superiors to give positive recognition to the divine origin of alleged supernatural phenomena, the regulations state.
The second major change is the centralisation of the process, since Francis is the pope of Roman centralism. The local bishop's decisions must be given approval by the Vatican.
The document refers to cases in the 20th century where the local bishop declared a phenomenon to be supernatural, and the Vatican later issued a decision to the contrary. In other cases, a bishop said one thing and his successor said the opposite about the same phenomenon. …More
Lisi Sterndorfer shares this
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Why is Rome continually assuming more power unto itself?
Alex A
Interesting that Francis's decision to centralise the decision regarding alleged apparitions/supernatural events, is in fact a return to the Church's position before Vatican 2,.
All Saints
Mrs. Bergoglio.
Boanerges Boanerges
The purpose of this is to shake the faith of many and it shows that they really don't believe in God anymore
Tony M
One thing I know for sure....I will not be trusting Jorge's judgement on any apparition!!!
All Saints
What exactly are they afraid of? Third Secret?
LiveJohn
Yes - but more likely Garabandal - in which case their efforts will fail; as the events will prove their own authenticity by fulfilment of the major prophecies. The Vatican will then have no option other than stamp its final approval.
All Saints
I tend to agree with your assessment!
Sally Dorman shares this
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New Vatican norms centralize decisions on apparitions
Alex A
As was the norm before Vatican 2
Ivan Tomas
Vatican says...
But what say a true Church of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ?More
Vatican says...

But what say a true Church of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ?
Billy F
These wicked Judas Priests! The Scourge of the Vineyard!!! Please Father remove these hirelings and wolves that they cease their Freemason Sodomite demon led activities of destruction!! In the Holy Name of Jesus!!! Amen
Our Lady said these men were coming and now they’re here. She warned of these days. These are the days of Fatima. The information that has been withheld from the faithful!!!
Her …More
These wicked Judas Priests! The Scourge of the Vineyard!!! Please Father remove these hirelings and wolves that they cease their Freemason Sodomite demon led activities of destruction!! In the Holy Name of Jesus!!! Amen

Our Lady said these men were coming and now they’re here. She warned of these days. These are the days of Fatima. The information that has been withheld from the faithful!!!

Her Immaculate Heart will Triumph!!! Her Heart is Her Son, The King of kings!!!
English Catholic
giveusthisday
However, today the Pope has made another manifesto about Aliens and 'the supernatural.'
Maybe it's important to believe in aliens, but wrong to believe in Akita or La Salette.imgur.com/fwiLmNW
Clement Jaeho Chung
It's totally stupid message.....I am sure...Bergoglio and Bergoglian worry, afraid about Holy Mary's warning to Hell's message...like Our Lady of Akita, Our Lady of Rwanda....and I think they will remove to Our Lady of Fatima's messages too.....be cause Bergoglio and Bergoglian don't believe to Hell's danger...and they want this wrong Ideologies to all around Church....make me so angry...they want …More
It's totally stupid message.....I am sure...Bergoglio and Bergoglian worry, afraid about Holy Mary's warning to Hell's message...like Our Lady of Akita, Our Lady of Rwanda....and I think they will remove to Our Lady of Fatima's messages too.....be cause Bergoglio and Bergoglian don't believe to Hell's danger...and they want this wrong Ideologies to all around Church....make me so angry...they want many souls leading to Hell.....and they always said about understand, talking, mercy...and they said about Local Churches Power....but now, now decision is a destroying to local Bishop's Power.....so stupid...ah....I can't explain my feeling..so horrible..and Bergoglio and Bergoglian always remove or otherwise retaliate against cardinals, bishops, priests, religious, and all other members of the Church who speak out in defense of the Orthodox teachings!!! they virtually shut down the celebration of our precious Traditional Latin Mass!!! Who are they to talk about hearts of mercy! they disgusting Pharisees!!! Bergoglio and his followers!!! Please know that you are the Pharisees that our Lord Jesus Christ hated the most! If you are not Pharisees, who are you to talk about tolerance, understanding, and mutual respect when you are not only not practicing any of it, but oppressing those who defend the Orthodox Faith! going to hell!!! Tucho!! Bergoglio, all Bergoglian!!!! we stop pray for Pope Francis's repentance!! real repentance is step down, will be silence, prayer..don't have another way....if, if Bergoglio's time will much longer....we will have huge damages....Resign!!! step down!!!
Denis Efimov
"War has been declared against everything supernatural, because behind the supernatural stands God, and because it is God that they want to tear out of the mind and heart of man" (Pope Pius X, "Une Fois", 6.01.1907).