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Indult Institutes to Discuss ‘Traditionis Custodes’ Amid Talk of Visitations
etheldreda symms
Archbishop Lefevre revisited!!!!!!!!Many years ago.
Vincent Capuano
Very simple if officially restricted go off book. If our ancestors trained priests under persecution so can we.
Ultraviolet
Correction @etheldreda symms None of these organizations have broken Canon Law and defied the Pope by appointing their own bishops without approval. :) Also, these Superiors are in full communion with the Catholic Church. Abp. Lefebvre was excommunicated, as were those who formally adhere to his movement's schism. That was confirmed by St. Pope John Paul II in his letter "Ecclesia Dei".

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Correction @etheldreda symms None of these organizations have broken Canon Law and defied the Pope by appointing their own bishops without approval. :) Also, these Superiors are in full communion with the Catholic Church. Abp. Lefebvre was excommunicated, as were those who formally adhere to his movement's schism. That was confirmed by St. Pope John Paul II in his letter "Ecclesia Dei".

We'll have to wait and see what sort of waltz the FSSP and the ICTK do with their dancing partners in the Vatican.
pgmgn
We'll have to wait for you to put your money where your mouth is... or make that your flying fingers as you dance across the keyboard.

Francis says, "Who am I to judge," and yet you, a supposed devotee of ultimate papal obedience are here judging. How is that possible?

If indeed you wish to set an example of total and complete submission to the utterances of the Holy Father, then I bid you do …More
We'll have to wait for you to put your money where your mouth is... or make that your flying fingers as you dance across the keyboard.

Francis says, "Who am I to judge," and yet you, a supposed devotee of ultimate papal obedience are here judging. How is that possible?

If indeed you wish to set an example of total and complete submission to the utterances of the Holy Father, then I bid you do so for the sake of souls. In truth. The hubris you demonstrate here in light of Francis's quintessential humility is shocking. Shocking, I say!!!!
Ultraviolet
I'm not making any predictions on what these organizations will do. Failed gambling analogy is failed. :D

"Francis says, "Who am I to judge," and yet you, a supposed devotee of ultimate papal obedience are here judging. How is that possible?"

1.) You're wrong on both points.
2.) You're trying to pick a fight while being 1.)

Hey, I can understand you wanting a re-match this bad. But when …More
I'm not making any predictions on what these organizations will do. Failed gambling analogy is failed. :D

"Francis says, "Who am I to judge," and yet you, a supposed devotee of ultimate papal obedience are here judging. How is that possible?"

1.) You're wrong on both points.
2.) You're trying to pick a fight while being 1.)

Hey, I can understand you wanting a re-match this bad. But when you get knocked out you need to heal up for a while first.

Don't climb back in the ring when you're still punch-drunk from yesterday's loss.

Here's where you're wrong... I'm not a "supposed devotee of ultimate papal obedience" at all.

Can. 751 requires submission to the Pope. Obedience isn't mentioned. Nor are any criteria supplied for defining "submission". Obedience doesn't appear anywhere in Can. 1382 which is the one Abp. Lefebvre broke and got him excommunicated.

Also, I'm not "judging", I'm citing a judgement made by others. Easy mistake for you to make when you're still-seeing double. :D

"If indeed you wish to set an example of total and complete submission to the utterances of the Holy Father..."

I don't because total and complete submission to the utterances of the Holy Father isn't a Canonical requirement.

Go put an ice-pack on the back of your neck and go ask Coach to check your stitches.

My hubris is well-earned, as you've demonstrated.

You're not even a decent sparring partner today, just a speed-bag. :P
pgmgn
You're citing word salad :^)
Ultraviolet
..and THIS from the guy bragging about his God-given ability to reason! :P Vaguely labelling a reply "word salad" fails as a coherent rebuttal. It's an "ad hominem" against the comment but doesn't address the points made. You've come up empty every time now and your derpy sarcasm isn't clever enough to make up for that