@Wilma Lopez @Willem Call on the bishops to reject error:

Please, shepherds: Protect your flock, guard the Deposit of Faith, ‘confirm thy brethren’!

@Clement Jaeho Chung Hi Clement, I am pretty good but the evil in the Church upsets me. Thank you for sharing it with the cardinal.

I believe that we'll likely get an orthodox Pope next and if not I will indeed go underground/

@Kenjiro M. Yoshimori Hi Kenjiro. Did you read this recently again? From whom?

Btw, have you signed the petitition calling on bishops to stand against sodomy?

Please, shepherds: Protect your flock, guard the Deposit of Faith, ‘confirm thy brethren’!

@Tony Dee @Tonó @Ivan Tomas Ask the bishops to oppose sodomitic unions:

Please, shepherds: Protect your flock, guard the Deposit of Faith, ‘confirm thy brethren’!

@Jan Joseph @JA @Ja Wa Support the call for correction by the bishop:

Please, shepherds: Protect your flock, guard the Deposit of Faith, ‘confirm thy brethren’!

@rhemes1582 @Kenjiro M. Yoshimori @Kenji789 @Clement Jaeho Chung Please support this petitition. Sign it, share it with other faithful and with bishops when possible. It calls on bishops and cardinals to step in oppose the sodomite agenda:

Please, shepherds: Protect your flock, guard the Deposit of Faith, ‘confirm thy brethren’!

@Kenjiro M. Yoshimori Thank you Kenjiro. I still have to directly answer your question regarding which 4 cardinals I thought were bad. Fernandez that Jesuit from Hong Kong, Chow, were indeed 2 of them and the most obvious ones. And as came up in my post Aguiar and Rossi are the 2 other ones. They are not as clearcut but I took no chances on either.

Aguiar is that auxiliary bishop if Lisbon who suprisingly isn't made the new patriarch of Lisbon now. He became (in)famous for his remarks about World Youth Day and not trying to convert people to Catholicism. It seems that his comments in context and the riginal Portuguese weren't as bad but still questionable. Basically he seems to have said there was no active attempt to convert non-Catholics, who were welcome and respected, while Catholics were encouraged to witness their faith. His youth centered remarks since being announced a cardinal and his defense of his words fit the moderate impression I got from him. PillarCatholic described him as a protegee of the patriarch who is retiring who is apparently centre-right.

Rossi is an Argentinian Archbishop and a Jesuit. Enough said. Though nothing radical about him has come to my knowledge. He works with drug addicts in the slums. He might be a good man, but I do suspect he'd sooner vote for Tagle (one of the few at this point).

So there are the 4 ones I counted as bad. 4 out of 18.

Yes, I am from the Netherlands. It's indeed quite sad with Bishop Smeets. He was a rather good bishop, ironically appointed by Francis in 2018. Thankfully another bishop who has cancer, the ultra-Conservative lion Bishop Liesen, was expected to die soon, yet he seems to be making a surprise recovery. Like Cardinal Burke who miraculously survived covid when he was on the brink of death.

Your sympathy for the bishop is admirable. I pray for him daily.

@Rafał_Ovile @Kenjiro M. Yoshimori The large percentage of cardinals appointed by Bergoglio at this point seems rather irrelevant. The two consistories of last year and this year will have given 33 new cardinal electors yet only 8 seems like they're Bergoglion, like they'd elect another Bergoglio. That's less than a quarter of the new cardinals.

In 2022 those cardinals were McElroy, Steiner, Roche and Cantoni. This year Fernandez, Chow and possibly Aguiar and Rossi.

But between the 2 consistories at least 4 bad cardinals turned 80. Maradiaga, Ravasi,
Bertello and Rosa Chávez.

Now, before, the number of cardinal electors goes down to 120 again, 3 more bad cardinals, all from Latin America and appointed by Francis will turn 80; José Luis Lacunza Maestrojuán from Panama, Pedro Ricardo Barreto Jimeno from Peru and Baltazar Enrique Porras Cardozo from Venezuela.

The 2022 and 2023 consistories barely if at all expand the bloc of bad Bergoglian cardinals.

Some of the cardinals from these two consistories include:

Okpaleke from Nigeria, a protegee of Cardinal Arinze who was a strong Pell ally and has openly opposed the gay agenda.

Goh from Singapore, has defended the anti-sodomy law in Singapore and supported Courage ministry and Conservative communion practices.

Marengo missionary leader in Mongolia, has opposed religious syncretism and Shamanism as demonic (contrary to the Amazon synod) and said that the next Pope should preserve the faith unchanged.

Carmo da Silva from East Timor, has sproken of the harmful influence of 'LGBT' spreading in his country.

Rugambwa from Tanzania, a loyal African curial official appointed under Beneict XVI.

Ameyu Martin Mulla from South Sudan, contradicted Francis' call for decriminalising homosexuality.

Ryś from Poland, a loyal supporter of John Paul II while alive, now fanatical defender of his reputation against marxist slander, was seminary director in Warsaw, made bishop by Pope Benedict, said Cardinal Muller was right to defend priestly celibacy, that Church teaching against abortion is infallible, that all homosexual acts remain sinful, that unambigious teachings about sex are essential for proper pastoral guidence for the youth. He specifically praised African bishops for clearly adhering to monogamous marriage in a culture dominated by polygamy.

Cobo Cano from Spain, the new Archbishop of Madrid, surprised everyone including me, by condemning abortion and gay marriage and saying June is Sacred Heart month and not pride month almost immediately after he was anounced as the new Archbishop, saying priestly celibacy is a revolutionary thing in a pan-sexualised society and doesn't make priests abusers, that Church doctrine doesn't change, only the way we express it which he said in the context of the new evangelisation approach talking about new pastoral approaches to reach the unconverted but not to water down doctrine or discipline, and celebrating his second mass at the church of Opus Dei.

@Rafał_Ovile Sorry if the term sexual teachings was neo-Marxist. I meant the Church's teachings regarding sex. Sexual morality.

If Bergoglio wsn't validly elected, then 2/3 of the cardinals who were appointed before 2013 who partake in the conclave need to vote for an orthodox cardinal like Peter Erdo. Martyr Cardinal Pell campaigned for this apparently.

The fact that many dubious cardinals appointed by Bergoglio seem likely to join the valid cardinals in electing someone like Erdo, would mean the sede vacante would be resolved in a way where the new orthodox Poe would need to be recognised even by those who say that Bergoglio is a valid Pope. It would mean restoration.

@Kenjiro M. Yoshimori I cannot blame you for that.

I had wanted to tell you that I have done a lot of research and that of the 18 cardinal electors Francis is hoping to appoint at the end of September, only 4 seem very Bergoglian.

2 out of the 3 new curial prefects specifically don't seem bad. I investigated Prevost for the dicastery of bishops and he doesn't seem too horrible, while Gugerotti for the Eastern churches seems good. Only Fernandez seems truly bad.

Likewise, the new Archbishops of Toronto and Madrid (the one for Madrid is one of the new cardinals) are fine as well and the new one for Brussels doesn't seem worse than his predecessor and might actually be less bad. Only the new Archbishop of Buenors Aires seem particularly awful.

Ironically however, by appointing the radical new Archbishop of Buenos Aires and retiring his predecessor Cardinal Poli rather early at 75.5 (after seeming to have mistreated him with a nonsense investigation before that), Francis may have turned Cardinal Poli against the Bergoglian cardinals as well. Poli had been Francis' auxiliary bishop before he was Pope and Francis had made him the new Archbishop of Buenors Airos and then a cardinal in 2014. But it seems Francis was expecting him to be a yes man and he wasn't. He also showed just a bit of authentic orthodoxy it seems.

So Bergoglio seems to have failed to turn a lot of important Archdioceses modernist and the same with a lot of the curia. Most importantly, he will fail to pack the college of cardinals again.

@Kenjiro M. Yoshimori With all due respect (and that's a lot of respect that's due for you Kenjiro) I think the nun is wrong. Maybe Cardinal Ouellet mishandled her case but it is an internal church matter and has nothing to do with secular law. She should appeal to the highest church authority in judicial matters, the Apostolic Signature. I would never appeal a dismissal by Church authorities to a godless secular court.

Cardinal Puellet himself has been a mixed back. He has ensured largely orthodox bishop appointments for over 12 years. Most of that time he had to function under Bergoglio. I believe he may have pragmatically attempted to avoid worse. He has defended priestly celibacy and the Church's sexual teachings.

@Clement Jaeho Chung Hi Clements, I have been very busy balancing a difficult new job while also being sick. I am really tired. I hope you're doing better. I also pray for an orthodox Pope.

While Bergoglio remains in office I want to do what I can to defend the faith from being undermined. I am planning a petition to urge bishops to ask Fernandez to unambigiously affirm the CDF 2021 responsum rejecting any blessing of same sex unions.

@Clement Jaeho Chung I understand that you're angry Clement but: Archbishop Stephen Ameyu Martin Mulla of Juba in South Sudan openly disagreed with Francis' call to decriminalise homosexuality.

Archbishop Grzegorz Rys of Łódź in Poland and Archbishop Protase Rugambwa from Tanzania are both clearly orthodox.

Prevost, the new prefect of the dicastery of bishops strongly opposes abortion and gender ideology while supporting traditional marriage.

@Kenjiro M. Yoshimori The new archbishop of Buenos Aires won't be made cardinal, the one from Madrid so far has seemed less bad: Against abortion, gay marriage and for celibacy.

Prevost only became head of the order during this century when it was already struggling I think. I know that he was bypassed for the appointment of that radical archbishop of Buenos Aires by Frances. I don't think he actively pushed for the investigation of Strickland. I studied all his twitter posts back to when he created the channel. He seems centre possibly centre-right. His teweets supported rejection of gender ideology and defense of traditional family by bishops in Paraguay. He was close to Cardinal Francis George in Chicago it seems. He follows EWTN on twitter. The channel accused by Francis of doing the work of the devil.

@Kenjiro M. Yoshimori I have been looking at the appointments. It is 18 cardinal electors. 4 are definitely bad including Fernandez and Jesuit bishop Stephen Chow from Hong Kong. 3 seem definitely good.

There is an archbishop from Poland, one from South Sudan who believes countries should be able to have their own code on homosexuality, and one from Tanzania appointed to the curia by Pope Benedict XVI.

Updates will follow soon.

@Kenjiro M. Yoshimori Very good. Go for the remnant to avoid the ape of the church. I have indeed read that the Eastern orthodox too often are infected by natural nationalism over the universal faith. Something you don't see with ultra-Traditionalists, even though they have their extremists.

My mom believes Bergoglio will decline fast mid-way August and die befor 18 november. Likely in september, possible October and very slight cance early november. When the number of cardinal electors drops below 120 on 17 September she does not think there will be a new consistory.

We both think it is likely that Cardinal Erdo will be chosen then.