I am intrigued by your stance, U.V. I thought you were a “traditonal Catholic?” Does that mean the Latin Mass?
I thought you were opposed to the Novus Ordo? Or do you like both? Is that allowed? They seem entirely different.
I only ask out of a desire to know. The stuff you guys talk about on here was never discussed at the novus ordo churches i went to. They just talked about being a good neighbor and letting go of the past and stuff like that. So it’s a bit confusing, especially after the great help you gave me in deciding to go to
Mass. So it’s confusing seeing you defend the Novus Ordo. If the Pope and officials want the Novus Ordo, why not go to that? Wouldn’t it be wrong to go against their wishes? These are serious questions. I’m so lost I don’t understand any of this stuff lol. I am going to a traditional Mass on Sunday so maybe I will understand a bit better then.

Anyway, thanks again for your help earlier.

What would make them good, in your eyes?
What would they need to do?

Do you think maybe, that if one bug shot bishop says they aren’t in “schism,” and one says they are, that it’s an unclear situation?
I know I don’t want to go join the Novus Ordo. I have been to a few, and it is not for me. I haven’t been to a Tridentine Mass yet. I’ve seen videos. It looks amazing.

So I learned that the S.S.P.X. acknowledge Francis as the Pope? Doesn’t that really make things square?

Sorry for the questions. I’m really interested in the topic.

He told someone not to convert, though. Maybe his being from South America obviously shaped his thinking, but is that true Catholic doctrine?
Keep in mind, I am interested in both Catholicism and Orthodox Churches, and I have no inside knowledge. I’ll compare some things I have heard. I really appreciate you addressing my concerns.
1. Is conversion necessary for salvation in Catholicism? The Orthodox priest told me that “there is no salvation outside the Church,” and that by Church, he meant Orthodox Church. According to Catholicism, can I “cover both bases,” by converting to Orthodox, and still be considered part of the Catholic religion?
2. The Pachamama stuff. The Orthodox Priest told me that they do not allow laypeople on the altar, also that I would not be able to burn incense to my ancestors (I am of Singaporean Chinese ancestry). I’m pretty sure that he would not tolerate the statue of Pachamama, especially bringing it inside the Church, and bowing to it. I’m pretty sure that he would rather encourage those Indians to become part of his Church. Now I read that Pachamama replaced the Virgin Mary in the “Hail Mary” prayer in a part of Argentina, which is the pope’s home. I am waiting for him to address it. Even if Francis was not praying to Pachamama, ot was a very severe signal to send, and apparently his people, who know him best, believe that he would be fine with praying to Pachamama, since he did honor to that statue.

I don’t know. I don’t like the whole “meet people where they are” stuff. Just seems like an excuse to be liberal.

I mean, I am obviously a lost person, but that means I need clear explanations, and teachings, which is more in the Orthodox Church.

The social teaching seems to be all he focuses on. Also, the way he teaches it seems to be little different than the beliefs of the American Democratic Party, and other left wing parties in Western nations.

Lastly, he seems to do the kind of thing the American Republican President Bush did, where he only has smoke for those more traditional than him, while actual evil people, like the witch Nancy Pelosi, and the fake President Joe Biden, are not told to change anything. They are told a bunch of fluff about luv (the American texting phrase not real love) but not to stop murdering babies, which is what Catholicism says it is anyway.

What’s up with your Church in general? Why are your bishops so weak acting? You would think they would be doing more like the Orthodox priests or even the Muslim Imams, by being confident telling clear truth. It’s like they want to play politics with North American and European liberals, when most of them have no interest in Church.

Interesting. Where did the Latin Mass survive? I was under the impression, apparently mistaken, that there was a point where the SSPX were it.
Also, I’m curious why you are so committed to attacking them. What mass do you go to, if you don’t mind my asking?
You are going harder against them, than I’ve ever seen someone go hard at some of the Novus Ordo stuff like blessing gay marriages.
What are they guilty of? I don’t know the whole story.
Your commitment intrigues me.

You guys are mad about somebody creating bishops, which historically saved the mass you follow, but aren’t mad about the Pope teaching people to believe in other gods.

Catholicism seems schizophrenic to me.

If Pope Francis were being misrepresented, wouldn’t it be his fault, for a lack of clarity?
It feels like in the “Novus Ordo” Catholic Church, a lack of clarity is how the anti-traditional stuff spreads. Obviously, I don’t know a whole lot, but reading the Vat II documents, and looking at Pope Francis’ particular statements, especially his refusal to clarify them, the lack of clarity is there to allow both a traditional and anti-traditional interpretation.

Do you think he’s dumb enough to think he will grow his number of believers with all that “flexibility” (which is, I assume, all the gay marriage, pro-abortion, lady priest stuff common in mainline protestant churches now)).

Aren’t the Lutherans, Anglicans, etc. dying, despite all that lame crap?

He cannot seriously want to actually harm his church though, right? He is at least a believer in his own stuff. Or is he?

I don’t need his warnings about the poor, since I’m poor myself. “Working poor,” but poor nonetheless. (I call it “Ramen Noodle Poor)-you aren’t going hungry, because you always have plastic noodles to eat.

What I don’t get, is how he has figured out that all these restorer people are not of the Holy Ghost?
How did he determine that?

Also, what does flexibility look like? It doesn’t look very appealing, to this poor heathen. Just more self-aggrandizement for him. It’s crazy how I have such disdain for you guys’ pope, just from being against globalism and social justice warriors.
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Has there ever been a pope this bad in terms of teachings?

Hello, Sir.
I hate imposing, but your response has me asking questions.
Where specifically is the lie involved? I’m just interested to find where he is slandered?

I’m not much of religious person, but even I can tell that Pope Francis is a big contradiction compared to even the pope before him.
Is agreeing with him, no matter what, part of what Catholicism means? In your Church, is there any questioning of him allowed at all?
I’m just curious where the limits of the Pope’s authority are. When it comes to beliefs, Pope Francis seems no different than any other evil oligarch (Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, George Soros, Rupert Murdoch, Ted Turner, etc.), just with priestly robes.
——a questioner wanting to know more about your Church.