Pope: The Church, and the salvation of God, are for everyone. On the Cross Jesus forgives everyone, and His salvation is for everyone – even for those who have committed grave sins in life, if they …More
Pope: The Church, and the salvation of God, are for everyone.
On the Cross Jesus forgives everyone, and His salvation is for everyone – even for those who have committed grave sins in life, if they draw near to Jesus with penitence “and the will to be embraced.” Pope Francis reflected on this message during his catechesis at the General Audience, which focused on the theme of “Forgiveness on the Cross.” Commenting on the exchange between Jesus and the two thieves crucified with Him – related in the Gospel of St Luke – the Pope emphasized that by dying on the Cross, an innocent man between two criminals, Jesus “bears witness that the salvation of God can reach any man in any condition, even the most negative and sorrowful.” Pope Francis said, “The Church is not o ...
On the Cross Jesus forgives everyone, and His salvation is for everyone – even for those who have committed grave sins in life, if they draw near to Jesus with penitence “and the will to be embraced.” Pope Francis reflected on this message during his catechesis at the General Audience, which focused on the theme of “Forgiveness on the Cross.” Commenting on the exchange between Jesus and the two thieves crucified with Him – related in the Gospel of St Luke – the Pope emphasized that by dying on the Cross, an innocent man between two criminals, Jesus “bears witness that the salvation of God can reach any man in any condition, even the most negative and sorrowful.” Pope Francis said, “The Church is not o ...
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The two popes have tried to change Church teaching.Pope Francis has attempted it on moral theology and Pope Benedict on salvation theology.
The two popes have tried to change Church teaching; the constant teaching of the magisterium.Pope Francis has attempted it on moral theology and Pope Benedict on salvation theology.
Both have used the philosophy of subjectivism.This was noticed by Fr. Matthias …More
The two popes have tried to change Church teaching.Pope Francis has attempted it on moral theology and Pope Benedict on salvation theology.
The two popes have tried to change Church teaching; the constant teaching of the magisterium.Pope Francis has attempted it on moral theology and Pope Benedict on salvation theology.
Both have used the philosophy of subjectivism.This was noticed by Fr. Matthias Guadron of the SSPX Germany, with reference to Amoris Laetitia.However no one has pointed out the same subjectivism in the interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) by Pope Benedict.
For Pope Francis and Cardinal Schonborn there are known exceptions to manifest mortal sin.For Pope Benedict there are known exceptions to the dogma on all needing to be incorporated into the Church to avoid Hell(for salvation).
For Pope Francis we can subjectively know when a divorced and remarried Catholic can receive the Eucharist.For Pope Benedict we can subjectively know of a baptism of desire case without the baptism of water, who has been saved or will be saved.
So with this subjectivism, 'the constant teaching of the magisterium' has been changed.For both the popes there are 'practical exceptions' to traditional teachings on faith and morals.
Pope Francis' moral theology in Amoris Laetitia contradicts the moral encyclical Veritatis Splendor, approved by Pope Benedict when he was the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.Even though it contradicts the Fundamental Option Theory and a mortal sin being objectively being a mortal sin, as mentioned in Veritatis Splendor, Pope Benedict says nothing about Amoris Laeititia.
Pope Benedict in his new book, according to a report, has disclosed he was a progressivist at Vatican Council II.He rejected the Scholasticism models which were presented.We also now know that he supported the New Theology based on an irrational premise and conclusion. He set guidlines so that seminarians and priests would not mention Hell in their homilies.During his pontificate priests in general did not speak of mortal sin and Hell.They also gave the Eucharist to men and women wearing short pants and other immodestly dressed clothes.This is a mortal sin before the very eyes of the priests giving the Eucharist and continues to be a scandal.
A priest to whom I spoke to about this said he did not want to give the Eucharist to immodestly dressed Catholics at Mass,but he had to do so out of obedience to his superiors.
The priests have to obey the two popes who have to obey the Masons and the Jewish Left.The Left supports same sex marriages, abortion, immodesty in clothes, pornography and other things approved by Satan.
The Catholic laity at Mass in Italian silently and helplessly watch all this.Then it is not known who among the lay congregation are not really Catholics, but are infiltrators. They belong to some secret society and are there at Mass on assignment and in obedience to someone who is not a Catholic.-Lionel Andrades
The two popes have tried to change Church teaching; the constant teaching of the magisterium.Pope Francis has attempted it on moral theology and Pope Benedict on salvation theology.
Both have used the philosophy of subjectivism.This was noticed by Fr. Matthias Guadron of the SSPX Germany, with reference to Amoris Laetitia.However no one has pointed out the same subjectivism in the interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) by Pope Benedict.
For Pope Francis and Cardinal Schonborn there are known exceptions to manifest mortal sin.For Pope Benedict there are known exceptions to the dogma on all needing to be incorporated into the Church to avoid Hell(for salvation).
For Pope Francis we can subjectively know when a divorced and remarried Catholic can receive the Eucharist.For Pope Benedict we can subjectively know of a baptism of desire case without the baptism of water, who has been saved or will be saved.
So with this subjectivism, 'the constant teaching of the magisterium' has been changed.For both the popes there are 'practical exceptions' to traditional teachings on faith and morals.
Pope Francis' moral theology in Amoris Laetitia contradicts the moral encyclical Veritatis Splendor, approved by Pope Benedict when he was the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.Even though it contradicts the Fundamental Option Theory and a mortal sin being objectively being a mortal sin, as mentioned in Veritatis Splendor, Pope Benedict says nothing about Amoris Laeititia.
Pope Benedict in his new book, according to a report, has disclosed he was a progressivist at Vatican Council II.He rejected the Scholasticism models which were presented.We also now know that he supported the New Theology based on an irrational premise and conclusion. He set guidlines so that seminarians and priests would not mention Hell in their homilies.During his pontificate priests in general did not speak of mortal sin and Hell.They also gave the Eucharist to men and women wearing short pants and other immodestly dressed clothes.This is a mortal sin before the very eyes of the priests giving the Eucharist and continues to be a scandal.
A priest to whom I spoke to about this said he did not want to give the Eucharist to immodestly dressed Catholics at Mass,but he had to do so out of obedience to his superiors.
The priests have to obey the two popes who have to obey the Masons and the Jewish Left.The Left supports same sex marriages, abortion, immodesty in clothes, pornography and other things approved by Satan.
The Catholic laity at Mass in Italian silently and helplessly watch all this.Then it is not known who among the lay congregation are not really Catholics, but are infiltrators. They belong to some secret society and are there at Mass on assignment and in obedience to someone who is not a Catholic.-Lionel Andrades
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Salvation in potential is open for every one but to receive this salvation all need to formally enter the Church, all need faith and baptism.The Jews do not have 'faith and baptism' so they are oriented to Hell according to Vatican Council II (AG 7,LG 14). Pope Francis does not tell the Jewish Left rabbis this truth of the faith.
FRIDAY, JANUARY 15, 2016
Pope Francis to visit the Jewish Left …More
Salvation in potential is open for every one but to receive this salvation all need to formally enter the Church, all need faith and baptism.The Jews do not have 'faith and baptism' so they are oriented to Hell according to Vatican Council II (AG 7,LG 14). Pope Francis does not tell the Jewish Left rabbis this truth of the faith.
FRIDAY, JANUARY 15, 2016
Pope Francis to visit the Jewish Left synagogue in Rome
Pope Francis is to visit the Jewish Left synagogue on Sunday after the Vatican recently issued a controversial and heretical document 1.The controversial document did not state that Nostra Aetate 4 says Catholics are the new people of God, the Elect.The Church is a continuation of the Jewish religion.Neither did the document state that Vatican Council II indicates all Jews, like other non Catholics need faith and baptism for salvation (AG 7, LG 14).
“Our meeting,” Rome Rabbi Riccardo Di Segni told the Catholic newspaper L’Avvenire, “aims to convey a very topical, important and urgent message — that belonging to a faith, a religion, should not be a cause of hostility, hatred and violence, but that it is possible to build a peaceful coexistence, based on respect and cooperation.”
Rabbi Segni is remembered for objecting to the Good Friday Prayer for the Conversion of the Jews,he also opposed Mel Gibson's film The Passion of Jesus Christ and he objected to the presence of a Catholic archbishop at an inter faith meeting, since that Archbishop had converted into the Catholic Church from Judaism.
Supported by Israel's military and political power the rabbi has been telling Catholics what they are permitted to believe and what will be acceptable to the Jewish Left whom he represents.Along with Rabbi Lara he has visited Vatican offices and the Urbaniana university warning them about Catholic mission it was reported in the newspapers.Their visit was supported by members of a Jewish organisation associated with Freemasonry.
Rabbis Segni and Lara also visited the office of Cardinal Bagnasco, at the Rome Vicariate. The cardinal had to issue an official statement from the Vicariate saying there will no mission to Jews. The rabbis would never dare make this appeal in a Muslim state.
No pope has received permission to visit an Orthoodox rabbis synagogue, who opposes abortion and homosexuality and other pro- Satanic values supported by the Jewish Left.Rabbis who opposed abortion and who were Rome were unable to get permission to meet Pope Benedict.The ADL and the liberal rabbis it is learnt would not allow it.
Rabbi Segni has been supporting anti-Semitic laws, which are pro-Jewish Left, and which target people who criticize the Jewish Left.These laws created by the ADL whom the rabbi supports, are being used as a whip in pontifical Catholic universities to control and change Catholic theology.
Catholics are afraid to affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salusin a rational and traditional way. They will be accused of being anti-Semitic and the Vatican will be forced to penalise a priest or even a bishop, who speaks the truth on what Catholics really believe on a subject opposed by the liberal rabbis, who do not represent all Jews as they claim to do.
A Catholic bishop in the North of Italy who said that the Jewish Left were responsible for the reaction of the German people during the Holocaust was asked to retract his statement by Rabbi Rosen.
Similarly when someone online listed the names of the Jewish professors at the La Sapienza university, a criminal court was filed against this unknown person.
Recently it was reported that Radio Islam in Italy was being criticised for being anti-Semitic since they listed the number of Jewish businessmen in Italy.This was considered offensive.
There can be no dialogue with the Jewish Left since they are constantly using the anti-Semitic law to penalise what is not acceptable to them.Even chaplains at the Catholic universities in Rome are afraid to speak the truth about the Faith.
The Jewish Left have set up ecumenical chairs and fellowships at Catholic universities and the goal seems the creation of a future one world religion in which Catholics will have to give up their traditional beliefs and doctrine.
A reformed rabbi who teaches ecumenism at the Angelicum University in Rome once called up New Catholic, the editor at the website Rorate Caeili. The rabbi objected to some comments on an error of the International Theologiocal Commission which was posted by me. After a few days Rorate Caeili pulled down those comments on extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II, mentioning the phone call he received from the rabbi.
Hundreds of journalists have received their accreditation for the Sunday visit and they will project the same propaganda which will appear in the main line leftist controlled media which censures news of Orthodox Jews or Jews opposed to Zionism.The newspapers are pro Jewish Left and fiercely anti-Catholic.They are also know for the promotion of pro Satan morals.
-Lionel Andrades
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www.vatican.va/…/rc_pc_chrstuni_…
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FRIDAY, JANUARY 15, 2016
Pope Francis to visit the Jewish Left synagogue in Rome
Pope Francis is to visit the Jewish Left synagogue on Sunday after the Vatican recently issued a controversial and heretical document 1.The controversial document did not state that Nostra Aetate 4 says Catholics are the new people of God, the Elect.The Church is a continuation of the Jewish religion.Neither did the document state that Vatican Council II indicates all Jews, like other non Catholics need faith and baptism for salvation (AG 7, LG 14).
“Our meeting,” Rome Rabbi Riccardo Di Segni told the Catholic newspaper L’Avvenire, “aims to convey a very topical, important and urgent message — that belonging to a faith, a religion, should not be a cause of hostility, hatred and violence, but that it is possible to build a peaceful coexistence, based on respect and cooperation.”
Rabbi Segni is remembered for objecting to the Good Friday Prayer for the Conversion of the Jews,he also opposed Mel Gibson's film The Passion of Jesus Christ and he objected to the presence of a Catholic archbishop at an inter faith meeting, since that Archbishop had converted into the Catholic Church from Judaism.
Supported by Israel's military and political power the rabbi has been telling Catholics what they are permitted to believe and what will be acceptable to the Jewish Left whom he represents.Along with Rabbi Lara he has visited Vatican offices and the Urbaniana university warning them about Catholic mission it was reported in the newspapers.Their visit was supported by members of a Jewish organisation associated with Freemasonry.
Rabbis Segni and Lara also visited the office of Cardinal Bagnasco, at the Rome Vicariate. The cardinal had to issue an official statement from the Vicariate saying there will no mission to Jews. The rabbis would never dare make this appeal in a Muslim state.
No pope has received permission to visit an Orthoodox rabbis synagogue, who opposes abortion and homosexuality and other pro- Satanic values supported by the Jewish Left.Rabbis who opposed abortion and who were Rome were unable to get permission to meet Pope Benedict.The ADL and the liberal rabbis it is learnt would not allow it.
Rabbi Segni has been supporting anti-Semitic laws, which are pro-Jewish Left, and which target people who criticize the Jewish Left.These laws created by the ADL whom the rabbi supports, are being used as a whip in pontifical Catholic universities to control and change Catholic theology.
Catholics are afraid to affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salusin a rational and traditional way. They will be accused of being anti-Semitic and the Vatican will be forced to penalise a priest or even a bishop, who speaks the truth on what Catholics really believe on a subject opposed by the liberal rabbis, who do not represent all Jews as they claim to do.
A Catholic bishop in the North of Italy who said that the Jewish Left were responsible for the reaction of the German people during the Holocaust was asked to retract his statement by Rabbi Rosen.
Similarly when someone online listed the names of the Jewish professors at the La Sapienza university, a criminal court was filed against this unknown person.
Recently it was reported that Radio Islam in Italy was being criticised for being anti-Semitic since they listed the number of Jewish businessmen in Italy.This was considered offensive.
There can be no dialogue with the Jewish Left since they are constantly using the anti-Semitic law to penalise what is not acceptable to them.Even chaplains at the Catholic universities in Rome are afraid to speak the truth about the Faith.
The Jewish Left have set up ecumenical chairs and fellowships at Catholic universities and the goal seems the creation of a future one world religion in which Catholics will have to give up their traditional beliefs and doctrine.
A reformed rabbi who teaches ecumenism at the Angelicum University in Rome once called up New Catholic, the editor at the website Rorate Caeili. The rabbi objected to some comments on an error of the International Theologiocal Commission which was posted by me. After a few days Rorate Caeili pulled down those comments on extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II, mentioning the phone call he received from the rabbi.
Hundreds of journalists have received their accreditation for the Sunday visit and they will project the same propaganda which will appear in the main line leftist controlled media which censures news of Orthodox Jews or Jews opposed to Zionism.The newspapers are pro Jewish Left and fiercely anti-Catholic.They are also know for the promotion of pro Satan morals.
-Lionel Andrades
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www.vatican.va/…/rc_pc_chrstuni_…
forward.com/…/pope-francis-to…
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Pope Francis uses an irrational premise to draw a non traditional and heretical conclusion on Methodists and salvation
Pope Francis reminds Methodists of the common baptism. He said the baptismal faith is responsible for really converting us into brothers and sisters.He was speaking to a Methodist delegation and was welcoming a new Methodist headquarters in Rome.
The pope does not believe that the …More
Pope Francis uses an irrational premise to draw a non traditional and heretical conclusion on Methodists and salvation
Pope Francis reminds Methodists of the common baptism. He said the baptismal faith is responsible for really converting us into brothers and sisters.He was speaking to a Methodist delegation and was welcoming a new Methodist headquarters in Rome.
The pope does not believe that the Catholic Church is necessary for salvation.For him every one does not need to be a formal member of the Church for salvation.Instead he holds the pro-Masonic position on salvation, as did Pope Benedict XVI. For them there is salvation outside the Church even though no one in the present times or in the past knew, or could know, of someone saved outside the Church.
It is by assuming that hypothetical cases and subjective cases are explicit, objectively visible in the present times, that the popes have been able to discard the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.It is with this irrational theology that they interpret Vatican Council II.
If invisible cases were not visible for Pope Francis, if LG 16 would refer to only a hypothetical case for him, then Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14) would be saying that all Protestants, need Catholic Faith for salvation, and there would be no exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II.It would also mean that there would be no exceptions in Vatican Council II to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, which indicates Protestants are on the way to the fires of Hell unless they formally convert into the Catholic Church.
KERYGMA MEANING CHANGED
Pope Francis has in the past presented a kerygma which is based on Jesus Death and Sacrifice as a means of salvation and excludes the necessity of membership in Jesus ' Mystical Body, the Church.
NICENE CREEDS MEANING CHANGED
So the Nicene Creed's ' I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sin', which refers to the visible, known and repeatable baptism, the baptism of water, has been changed to 'I believe in three or more baptisms, which exclude the baptism of water. They are the baptism of desire and blood, seeds of the Word, imperfect communion with the Church etc'.This is a new doctrine and is first class heresy .
So the pope has discarded the dogma EENS and the Nicene Creed, by changing its meaning.He does this by using an irrational premise ( we can physically see and know exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus).So the conclusion, the inference is non traditional and heretical.In this way he has changed Catholic salvation theology.
This has also been his approach with moral theology and this can be seen in the exhortation Amoris Laetitia n.301.He supposes that a priest could judge the conscience of a person living in manifest mortal sin and declare the person not to be in sin.Subjective factors which would only be known to God are considered objective and so the traditional teaching on mortal sin is rejected.
Similarly if a married couple decides that according to their conscience there marriage was not valid, even though it was a Sacrament, an annulment is easily given to break up the family.
Steve Skojec on the blog1Peter5 reports' Archbishop Forte has in fact revealed a “behind the scenes” [moment] from the Synod: “If we speak explicitly about communion for the divorced and remarried,” said Archbishop Forte, reporting a joke of Pope Francis, “you do not know what a terrible mess we will make. So we won’t speak plainly, do it in a way that the premises are there, then I will draw out the conclusions.”
“Typical of a Jesuit,” Abp Forte joked, attributing to that suggestion a wisdom that has allowed the maturation necessary to conclude that Amoris Laetitia, as Abp. Bruno Forte explained, does not represent a new doctrine, but the “merciful application” of that [the doctrine]of all time.'1
''do it in a way that the premises are there, then I will draw out the conclusions.”
The premise is that there is known salvation outside the Church and the conclusion is that the dogma EENS is not longer valid.
The premise is that we know of people saved without the baptism of water and the conclusion is that there is salvation outside the Church. So there is a new doctrine on salvation.
The premise is that we can know objectively subjective factors which would indicate that a person in manifest mortal sin is not going to Hell and so the conclusion is that there are exceptions to the traditional understanding on mortal sin.
Since the premise for Pope Francis is that there is known salvation outside the Church, the conclusion for Pope Francis, is that all Methodists and Protestants do not need to convert into the Catholic Church to be saved from Hell. -Lionel Andrades
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Forte: Pope Did Not Want to Speak “Plainly” Of Communion for Remarried
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Pope Francis reminds Methodists of the common baptism. He said the baptismal faith is responsible for really converting us into brothers and sisters.He was speaking to a Methodist delegation and was welcoming a new Methodist headquarters in Rome.
The pope does not believe that the Catholic Church is necessary for salvation.For him every one does not need to be a formal member of the Church for salvation.Instead he holds the pro-Masonic position on salvation, as did Pope Benedict XVI. For them there is salvation outside the Church even though no one in the present times or in the past knew, or could know, of someone saved outside the Church.
It is by assuming that hypothetical cases and subjective cases are explicit, objectively visible in the present times, that the popes have been able to discard the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.It is with this irrational theology that they interpret Vatican Council II.
If invisible cases were not visible for Pope Francis, if LG 16 would refer to only a hypothetical case for him, then Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14) would be saying that all Protestants, need Catholic Faith for salvation, and there would be no exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II.It would also mean that there would be no exceptions in Vatican Council II to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, which indicates Protestants are on the way to the fires of Hell unless they formally convert into the Catholic Church.
KERYGMA MEANING CHANGED
Pope Francis has in the past presented a kerygma which is based on Jesus Death and Sacrifice as a means of salvation and excludes the necessity of membership in Jesus ' Mystical Body, the Church.
NICENE CREEDS MEANING CHANGED
So the Nicene Creed's ' I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sin', which refers to the visible, known and repeatable baptism, the baptism of water, has been changed to 'I believe in three or more baptisms, which exclude the baptism of water. They are the baptism of desire and blood, seeds of the Word, imperfect communion with the Church etc'.This is a new doctrine and is first class heresy .
So the pope has discarded the dogma EENS and the Nicene Creed, by changing its meaning.He does this by using an irrational premise ( we can physically see and know exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus).So the conclusion, the inference is non traditional and heretical.In this way he has changed Catholic salvation theology.
This has also been his approach with moral theology and this can be seen in the exhortation Amoris Laetitia n.301.He supposes that a priest could judge the conscience of a person living in manifest mortal sin and declare the person not to be in sin.Subjective factors which would only be known to God are considered objective and so the traditional teaching on mortal sin is rejected.
Similarly if a married couple decides that according to their conscience there marriage was not valid, even though it was a Sacrament, an annulment is easily given to break up the family.
Steve Skojec on the blog1Peter5 reports' Archbishop Forte has in fact revealed a “behind the scenes” [moment] from the Synod: “If we speak explicitly about communion for the divorced and remarried,” said Archbishop Forte, reporting a joke of Pope Francis, “you do not know what a terrible mess we will make. So we won’t speak plainly, do it in a way that the premises are there, then I will draw out the conclusions.”
“Typical of a Jesuit,” Abp Forte joked, attributing to that suggestion a wisdom that has allowed the maturation necessary to conclude that Amoris Laetitia, as Abp. Bruno Forte explained, does not represent a new doctrine, but the “merciful application” of that [the doctrine]of all time.'1
''do it in a way that the premises are there, then I will draw out the conclusions.”
The premise is that there is known salvation outside the Church and the conclusion is that the dogma EENS is not longer valid.
The premise is that we know of people saved without the baptism of water and the conclusion is that there is salvation outside the Church. So there is a new doctrine on salvation.
The premise is that we can know objectively subjective factors which would indicate that a person in manifest mortal sin is not going to Hell and so the conclusion is that there are exceptions to the traditional understanding on mortal sin.
Since the premise for Pope Francis is that there is known salvation outside the Church, the conclusion for Pope Francis, is that all Methodists and Protestants do not need to convert into the Catholic Church to be saved from Hell. -Lionel Andrades
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Forte: Pope Did Not Want to Speak “Plainly” Of Communion for Remarried
www.onepeterfive.com/pope-speaking-p…