Gloria.TV News on the 9th of March 2017 Individual Case Trick: In an interview with the anti-Church German rag, "Zeit," Pope Francis hinted at toppling priestly celibacy with the usual individual-case …More
Gloria.TV News on the 9th of March 2017
Individual Case Trick: In an interview with the anti-Church German rag, "Zeit," Pope Francis hinted at toppling priestly celibacy with the usual individual-case-trick. Quote: "We have to think about whether married priests are a possibility. Then we have to determine which tasks they can assume, for instance, in far away parishes."
One Was Not Kneeling: On the first day of the retreat of the Roman Curia, a Holy Hour with Eucharistic Adoration was held. Everybody was kneeling but one.
No: Pewsitter.com, one of the largest Catholic news aggregators on the Internet has run a poll on the question, "Is the Pope's rehabilitation of Luther a valid way to further Catholic dialogue with the Lutheran Church?" 95% of the respondents answered: No.
Elimination: The new constitutions of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate will be ready within a couple of weeks, according to Marco Tosatti. They were written by the Vatican without any real input from the friars. The Vatican wants to eliminate the Marian vow of unlimited consecration to the Immaculate. Since the Vatican crackdown on the order, almost 20 friaries and three missions have been closed and about 100 members left the order.
Individual Case Trick: In an interview with the anti-Church German rag, "Zeit," Pope Francis hinted at toppling priestly celibacy with the usual individual-case-trick. Quote: "We have to think about whether married priests are a possibility. Then we have to determine which tasks they can assume, for instance, in far away parishes."
One Was Not Kneeling: On the first day of the retreat of the Roman Curia, a Holy Hour with Eucharistic Adoration was held. Everybody was kneeling but one.
No: Pewsitter.com, one of the largest Catholic news aggregators on the Internet has run a poll on the question, "Is the Pope's rehabilitation of Luther a valid way to further Catholic dialogue with the Lutheran Church?" 95% of the respondents answered: No.
Elimination: The new constitutions of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate will be ready within a couple of weeks, according to Marco Tosatti. They were written by the Vatican without any real input from the friars. The Vatican wants to eliminate the Marian vow of unlimited consecration to the Immaculate. Since the Vatican crackdown on the order, almost 20 friaries and three missions have been closed and about 100 members left the order.
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Another step in the revolution. If Francis has his way, the Church will become just another protestant denomination. That surely is the ultimate goal
Francis is continuing the policies of the 1970s that were stopped by JPII. Unfortunately, the neo Con Church left by JPII was neither fish nor fowl--Catholic in morals but with liturgy influenced by Protestantism.
Francis is a Jesuit and, IMHO, has little use for the neo Con Church. Who knows how long his papacy will last, but he seems inclined to try to dismantle this neo Con Church, leaving two …More
Francis is continuing the policies of the 1970s that were stopped by JPII. Unfortunately, the neo Con Church left by JPII was neither fish nor fowl--Catholic in morals but with liturgy influenced by Protestantism.
Francis is a Jesuit and, IMHO, has little use for the neo Con Church. Who knows how long his papacy will last, but he seems inclined to try to dismantle this neo Con Church, leaving two Churches: One will observe Catholic morality and have Latin liturgy, the other will be lax in promoting morality (exc social justice) with have Protestantized liturgy.
Francis is a Jesuit and, IMHO, has little use for the neo Con Church. Who knows how long his papacy will last, but he seems inclined to try to dismantle this neo Con Church, leaving two Churches: One will observe Catholic morality and have Latin liturgy, the other will be lax in promoting morality (exc social justice) with have Protestantized liturgy.
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Individual Case Trick: We have to think about whether married priests are a possibility. Then we have to determine which tasks they can assume, for instance, in far away parishes.
“Far away parishes" = Moldova?
Married priests are not the primary issue and clearly are a possibility since there have been married priests in the past and even today there are married priests (converts) in the Western …More
Individual Case Trick: We have to think about whether married priests are a possibility. Then we have to determine which tasks they can assume, for instance, in far away parishes.
“Far away parishes" = Moldova?
Married priests are not the primary issue and clearly are a possibility since there have been married priests in the past and even today there are married priests (converts) in the Western and, of course, the Eastern Church. Everyone agrees that priestly celibacy is a discipline, not a dogma. This is established by the fact that for many centuries the Church admitted married men to Holy Orders.
The unanimous teaching of the Church throughout the first seven centuries is those of Major Orders were expected to observe perfect continence. This would be true for bachelors but it was commanded of the married clerics as well. When a married man received Major Orders, he was henceforth to cease all conjugal relations with his wife and live with her as brother and sister. This was frequently called being "converted" to continence. This explains how the Church once allowed then prohibited married clerics while simultaneously claiming her teaching on this matter has never changed; this is because the teaching was never about whether a cleric could be married, but whether it was fitting for clerics to have sexual intercourse. Understood this way, the teaching (until modern times) has been unanimous.
This distinction between celibacy and continence also puts modern discussions of admitting married men to the priesthood into context. Like the problem with communion in the hand, those who appeal to patristic practice may have the facts right but miss the point entirely. Yes, the Church once had married priests; however, those married priests were expected to live in perfect continence. Thus, the modern push for a married - and sexually active - priesthood has little in common with ancient practice.
The next logical question would be is there a definite practical 'purpose' for continence?
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His disciples say unto him: If the case of a man with his wife be so, it is not expedient to marry.
(Matt.19:10) D/R.
Who said to them: All men take not this word, but they to whom it is given. For there are eunuchs, who were born so from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, who were made so by men: and there are eunuchs, who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven. He that can take, let him take it. (Matt. 19:11-12) D/R
“Far away parishes" = Moldova?
Married priests are not the primary issue and clearly are a possibility since there have been married priests in the past and even today there are married priests (converts) in the Western and, of course, the Eastern Church. Everyone agrees that priestly celibacy is a discipline, not a dogma. This is established by the fact that for many centuries the Church admitted married men to Holy Orders.
The unanimous teaching of the Church throughout the first seven centuries is those of Major Orders were expected to observe perfect continence. This would be true for bachelors but it was commanded of the married clerics as well. When a married man received Major Orders, he was henceforth to cease all conjugal relations with his wife and live with her as brother and sister. This was frequently called being "converted" to continence. This explains how the Church once allowed then prohibited married clerics while simultaneously claiming her teaching on this matter has never changed; this is because the teaching was never about whether a cleric could be married, but whether it was fitting for clerics to have sexual intercourse. Understood this way, the teaching (until modern times) has been unanimous.
This distinction between celibacy and continence also puts modern discussions of admitting married men to the priesthood into context. Like the problem with communion in the hand, those who appeal to patristic practice may have the facts right but miss the point entirely. Yes, the Church once had married priests; however, those married priests were expected to live in perfect continence. Thus, the modern push for a married - and sexually active - priesthood has little in common with ancient practice.
The next logical question would be is there a definite practical 'purpose' for continence?
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His disciples say unto him: If the case of a man with his wife be so, it is not expedient to marry.
(Matt.19:10) D/R.
Who said to them: All men take not this word, but they to whom it is given. For there are eunuchs, who were born so from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, who were made so by men: and there are eunuchs, who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven. He that can take, let him take it. (Matt. 19:11-12) D/R
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One Was Not Kneeling Mais pour laver les pieds des musulmanes et des transsexuels il retrouve sa souplesse. François a les genoux trop rigides surtout devant son divin maître, mais croit-il a la présence réelle ?