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The Incredible Seer Alois Irlmaier – a Countryman of Joseph Ratzinger

The Bavarian well builder Alois Irlmaier is a little known German Catholic seer who died in 1959. He was endowed with extraordinary gifts. When Irlmaier was accused of clairvoyance which was a crime …More
The Bavarian well builder Alois Irlmaier is a little known German Catholic seer who died in 1959. He was endowed with extraordinary gifts. When Irlmaier was accused of clairvoyance which was a crime at the time, he answered, “I see what I tell the people.” Then he told the judge, “Your wife is now at home. She is dressed in red and a gentleman is with her. Go and check whether this is true.” It was true. Irlmaier was acquitted.

During the Second World War, Irlmaier warned the people before a major military offensive against Rosenheim, Bavaria. He told them, “You may enter the big bunker near the State bank. Nothing will happen to you there. But don’t stand in its center. There, the bombs will hit there. I see there a big pile of dirt, and legs and heads sticking out!" The people followed Irlmaier’s advice. But in the last minute, a few soldiers came in. They remained in the middle of the bunker. Half an hour later the ceiling collapsed and they were buried underneath. Heads and legs stuck out of the rubble.

Irlmaier used to say that his clairvoyance was not a gift but a plague. Quote, “You get totally crazy when you see all things.” “It shakes me like a dog when I wake up from my trance”. Afterwards, he was “like smashed.” He also said that he could not always tell the people the truth. Quote, “Not everybody would be able to stand it.” A policeman in Freilassing where Irlmaier was living, said about him, “He usually guesses whatever is personal. Only political things he does not understand well, the future of Germany and things like that."

A woman asked Irlmaier about her husband who was a prisoner of war: Irlmaier answered, “Your husband is already in our home land. Remain at home tomorrow, he will come!” And he came. Irlmaier could describe the countryside and the surroundings where prisoners of war were detained. When they came home, they confirmed what Irlmaier had said. Irlmaier could have become very rich, but he always refused money. "God should be my recompense" he used to say adding, “Because it must be like this.” Irlmaier lived in the part of Bavaria where Joseph Ratzinger is from.
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@DJRESQ: There are many "political" prophecies of Irlmaier but I wonder sometimes whether they stem from him. In which context did he pronounce them? I know the case of the famous Greek monk Païsios whose "political" prophecies are also often quoted, even by the media. So I made the effort and went through the official edition of Païsios' words and noticed that he says many beautiful and …More
@DJRESQ: There are many "political" prophecies of Irlmaier but I wonder sometimes whether they stem from him. In which context did he pronounce them? I know the case of the famous Greek monk Païsios whose "political" prophecies are also often quoted, even by the media. So I made the effort and went through the official edition of Païsios' words and noticed that he says many beautiful and profound things, but he never speaks about politics or future political events. Never.
DJRESQ
I don't know whether the political prophecies of Irlmaier (who I know almost nothing about) stem from him, but political prophecies among Catholic mystics are endemic.

Just one example: Blessed Elena Aiello, who wrote to Benito Mussolini a letter that she claimed was dictated to her by Our Lord, telling him not to get Italy involved in WWII and what would happen if he did not listen.

Sister …More
I don't know whether the political prophecies of Irlmaier (who I know almost nothing about) stem from him, but political prophecies among Catholic mystics are endemic.

Just one example: Blessed Elena Aiello, who wrote to Benito Mussolini a letter that she claimed was dictated to her by Our Lord, telling him not to get Italy involved in WWII and what would happen if he did not listen.

Sister Elena made numerous political predictions regarding Italy, Russia, and the U.S. This statement can be found on this very website:

"Russia will march upon all the nations of Europe, particularly Italy, and will raise her flag over the dome of Saint Peter's. Italy will be severely tried by a great revolution, and Rome will be purified in blood for its many sins, especially those of impurity! The flock is about to be dispersed and the Pope must suffer greatly."

And, of course, Sacred Scripture is filled with political prophecies.
The Italians are supposed to make a "great revolution"? VERY unlikely.
Again, I ask: If an alleged seer makes a prophecy, and that prophecy has not yet taken place, does that mean the prophecy is "wrong"?

Whether or not a prophecy is correct or not is irrelevant. What is obvious is that YOU are wrong.

You have little faith, mio cucciolo. This IS obvious and it is the reason you so zealously defend the “seer.” He and his prophecy are, for you, important to …More
Again, I ask: If an alleged seer makes a prophecy, and that prophecy has not yet taken place, does that mean the prophecy is "wrong"?

Whether or not a prophecy is correct or not is irrelevant. What is obvious is that YOU are wrong.

You have little faith, mio cucciolo. This IS obvious and it is the reason you so zealously defend the “seer.” He and his prophecy are, for you, important to maintain your faith.

Here’s a scriptural passage you may have heard/read before now.

1Now faith is the substance of things to be hoped for, the evidence of things that appear not.

Although you may have heard of it, the passage means little to you and many others like you. They are words without meaning.

How do I know? Simply because people of faith DO NOT depend on the miraculous. They don’t rely on ‘faith crutches’ to strengthen their faith. Not only do they not depend on the miraculous they certainly would not, on a public Christian message board, attempt to defend a man (Alois) who clearly has made erroneous statements. These types are easily impressionable and have weak intellects. Their “faith” is weak and so they must defend prophets and prophecy and other alleged unexplained occurrences because for them “faith” depends on those kinds of things being accurate.

1Now faith is the substance of things to be hoped for, the evidence of things that appear not.

Try reading that passage to a believer who follows the seers and the visions allegedly occurring in Medjugorje. Read that passage to a believer in weeping statues of the Virgin or miraculous apparitions of a saint or clairvoyants or images of Christ on a tortilla. Somehow, like you, they will say you can have both. You can have faith as biblically defined and still think that Asians will ‘someday’ invade the United States as your dear friend Alois Irlmaier has forecasted. What you and other miracle seekers like you fail to understand is that people of faith DO NOT DEPEND or even seek out the miraculous.

What does St. John’s Dark Night of Faith have in common with seers? The answer is nothing at all. In those who have developed a mature faith then faith is the substance of things to be hoped for and the evidence of things that appear not. External things have no significance to people of faith. They are simply a sign of weakness and a departure from the Dark Night of faith.

To you, however, externals ARE important and this is the reason you zealously defend Alois. Instead of emptying and purifying yourself with forgetfulness of all creatures and things pertaining to creatures, you dwell on them.

We tell children about Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy. These, of course, are children's’ fables that are a part of childhood and instill a sense of imagination and wonder in children. However, we expect that children will, in time, mature and these fictional stories will have served their purpose and will remain as merely a fond memory of childhood.

Grow up, stop behaving like a fanciful child and follow the biblical injunction.

1Now faith is the substance of things to be hoped for, the evidence of things that appear not.

Once again, I must go. It appears that an Asian UPS man is at the front door and who knows how many other Asians are hiding in the back of his truck. This could be the beginning of the Asian invasion Alois spoke of.
DJRESQ
I am not defending the seer; I was just correcting your false statements regarding his alleged "prophecies."

I have no idea whether this seer is accurate. In fact, I'm not sure I have ever even heard of him before. But your assumption that you are correct and he is wrong is... wrong.

You make false statements regarding what the seer is alleged to have stated, you come to false conclusions and …More
I am not defending the seer; I was just correcting your false statements regarding his alleged "prophecies."

I have no idea whether this seer is accurate. In fact, I'm not sure I have ever even heard of him before. But your assumption that you are correct and he is wrong is... wrong.

You make false statements regarding what the seer is alleged to have stated, you come to false conclusions and false assumptions based on your false reasoning, you assume you know what he meant as if being a mind reader, and then come up with the idea that the seer is wrong instead of looking at yourself and examining whether your ideas are wrong.

So, do you contend that all "seers/mystics" are fakes? Fatima? Lourdes? La Salette? Padre Pio?

Mockery is the resort of those whose ideas cannot withstand careful scrutiny.
1Now faith is the substance of things to be hoped for, the evidence of things that appear not.

Have someone explain this passage to you. I would help you if I had time but I'm busy fighting off Asians.

Maybe someday, not anytime soon, you'll be ready for this.
Arrivederci
DJRESQ
The subject of this thread is the alleged "prophecies" of Alois Irlmaier, not all the irrelevant things you mentioned. I don't know whether he's a valid "seer," and frankly I couldn't care less whether he is, but what I do know is that you misrepresented the statements that appear at the link. What authority do you possess to make pronouncements on the authenticity of his "predictions"? Do you …More
The subject of this thread is the alleged "prophecies" of Alois Irlmaier, not all the irrelevant things you mentioned. I don't know whether he's a valid "seer," and frankly I couldn't care less whether he is, but what I do know is that you misrepresented the statements that appear at the link. What authority do you possess to make pronouncements on the authenticity of his "predictions"? Do you set yourself above the Church?
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Reread the line from Alois' more carefully. He clearly states:
"The year 1999 will bring destruction, followed by peace.
*snip*
"The "Great City" of the United States will be destroyed by rockets, and the West Coast will be invaded by Asians, but they will be beaten back...

The two lines follow closely which obviously indicate that they are, in Alois' mind, related to each other.

If you still …
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Reread the line from Alois' more carefully. He clearly states:
"The year 1999 will bring destruction, followed by peace.
*snip*
"The "Great City" of the United States will be destroyed by rockets, and the West Coast will be invaded by Asians, but they will be beaten back...

The two lines follow closely which obviously indicate that they are, in Alois' mind, related to each other.

If you still do not understand, have someone help you.
DJRESQ
You're reading way too much into what is contained there and making assumptions that have no basis in the text. Reading the entire document, one can easily see that there are multiple lines that immediately follow one another but are disconnected. It's a collection of unrelated statements, and there is no evidence that the individual statements were even stated at the same time. The "snipped" …More
You're reading way too much into what is contained there and making assumptions that have no basis in the text. Reading the entire document, one can easily see that there are multiple lines that immediately follow one another but are disconnected. It's a collection of unrelated statements, and there is no evidence that the individual statements were even stated at the same time. The "snipped" portion relates to Europe only, and it does not follow that the next statement has anything to do with the prior one, just as with many of the other statements. Nowhere does the alleged seer state that in 1999 "the great city" of the United States will be destroyed by rockets.
"The year 1999 will bring destruction, followed by peace.

Didn't Alois say that or did he not say it? Furthermore, where did the destruction take place that he predicted? Did I miss it?

"The "Great City" of the United States will be destroyed by rockets, and the West Coast will be invaded by Asians, but they will be beaten back...

Was the United States destroyed? Did I miss that also?
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"The year 1999 will bring destruction, followed by peace.

Didn't Alois say that or did he not say it? Furthermore, where did the destruction take place that he predicted? Did I miss it?

"The "Great City" of the United States will be destroyed by rockets, and the West Coast will be invaded by Asians, but they will be beaten back...

Was the United States destroyed? Did I miss that also?
And where are those nasty Asian invaders? Perhaps Alois meant to say there would be an invasion of Asians into Hawaii where the Asain population is currently 39% of the state. However, this was hardly an invasion but rather legal immigration unlike the illegal invasion occurring at our Southern border. If Alois would have predicted the invasion of illegals at our Southern border then he would certainly have interested many.

He was evidently correct about some things but he is not divine and does not bat 1000. The above are just 2 examples. End of story.
DJRESQ
"The year 1999 will bring destruction, followed by peace." Okay, but that begs the question. What did he mean by that? Destruction where? Followed by peace where? You're reading too much into these individual statements. Where did you get the idea that they were all stated at the same time? Who put them together? They're obviously not chronological. The statement that mentions the Third World …More
"The year 1999 will bring destruction, followed by peace." Okay, but that begs the question. What did he mean by that? Destruction where? Followed by peace where? You're reading too much into these individual statements. Where did you get the idea that they were all stated at the same time? Who put them together? They're obviously not chronological. The statement that mentions the Third World War, which appears after the statement with the 1999 date, has this: ""The Third World War will come, but I cannot predict the year." Was the United States destroyed? No. Did the seer predict when it would happen? No. You're conflating all the various statements as if they were a) all made at the same time and b) follow one another. There's no evidence from the link that that is true. In fact, reading the statement, it is obviously not true.
Was the United States destroyed? No. Did the seer predict when it would happen? No.

He predicted it would happen just like I could predict MOLDOVA will be the richest country on earth...someday. Why is it so difficult for you to accept the fact that this or any other “seer” is not ALWAYS right? Period!

Will the United States ever be destroyed by rockets? I currently doubt it but let me know …More
Was the United States destroyed? No. Did the seer predict when it would happen? No.

He predicted it would happen just like I could predict MOLDOVA will be the richest country on earth...someday. Why is it so difficult for you to accept the fact that this or any other “seer” is not ALWAYS right? Period!

Will the United States ever be destroyed by rockets? I currently doubt it but let me know when it happens. Ditto for Moldova.

Incidentally, do you believe in flying saucers and have you ever been on one? Recently?
DJRESQ
Where did you get the idea that it is difficult for me "to accept the fact that this or any other seer is not ALWAYS right?" You make a lot of unwarranted assumptions when you read things. In fact, I accept that statement unequivocally. I was merely pointing out the non sequiturs in your statements.

For instance, you apparently think that the statements found at the link were all made at the …More
Where did you get the idea that it is difficult for me "to accept the fact that this or any other seer is not ALWAYS right?" You make a lot of unwarranted assumptions when you read things. In fact, I accept that statement unequivocally. I was merely pointing out the non sequiturs in your statements.

For instance, you apparently think that the statements found at the link were all made at the same time, one after another, when in fact one statement could have been made 10 years before the statement that follows it. You have no way of knowing otherwise because you have no way of knowing how those statements were collected, who collected them, and when. They're just individual sentences that appear on a website.

Number 2, you constantly misquote the statements at the link. The alleged seer never said anything about "the United States" being destroyed by rockets. It states that "the great city" (unnamed) of the United States would be destroyed by rockets, and he never said when. The year 1999 is not mentioned in regard to that statement; you're the one that linked those two things.

Surely you don't believe that, merely because something has not occurred yet that someone predicted, that that means the prediction is false. Sister Lucia of Fatima has predicted the conversion of Russia, and the two seers of La Salette predicted that the entire world would one day become Catholic. Have you seen those things happen? If not, does that mean the predictions are false?

For goodness sake, Sacred Scripture is filled with predictions that have not yet come to pass. Are they therefore false?

Your reading comprehension is obviously not good.
Where did you get the idea that it is difficult for me "to accept the fact that this or any other seer is not ALWAYS right?"

You attempt to defend Alois in a pointless effort to prove who knows what.

You make a lot of unwarranted assumptions when you read things.
For instance, you apparently think that the statements found at the link were all made at the same time,


I don't believe and I have …More
Where did you get the idea that it is difficult for me "to accept the fact that this or any other seer is not ALWAYS right?"

You attempt to defend Alois in a pointless effort to prove who knows what.

You make a lot of unwarranted assumptions when you read things.
For instance, you apparently think that the statements found at the link were all made at the same time,


I don't believe and I have never said any such thing. Now who’s making assumptions. You know what they say about people who make assumptions?

The alleged seer never said anything about "the United States" being destroyed by rockets. It states that "the great city" (unnamed) of the United States would be destroyed by rockets, and he never said when.

From the article, he said "The "Great City" (note the capitalization) of the United States will be destroyed by rockets

This statement is clearly his reference to the United States as being the “Great City.” If he were referring to an individual city within the United States, as you seem to think, then he would have mentioned that city as he earlier mentioned the cities of New York, Rome, Paris and Berlin. Clearly he was speaking of the United States as “the Great City.”

Sometimes seers get it right and sometimes they don’t. Alois did not ALWAYS GET IT RIGHT.

Finally you wrote to me: Your reading comprehension is obviously not good.

I have to go now, il mio Ometto. I think I hear Alois' rascally Asains invading my neighborhood.
DJRESQ
"You attempt to defend Alois in a pointless effort to prove who knows what."

And you attempt to tell others what the man meant and that he was wrong, in a pointless effort to prove who knows what?

"Clearly he was speaking of the United States as 'the Great City.'”

And clearly that's just another assumption on your part.

Nowhere did the alleged seer say that "the Great City" means "the United…More
"You attempt to defend Alois in a pointless effort to prove who knows what."

And you attempt to tell others what the man meant and that he was wrong, in a pointless effort to prove who knows what?

"Clearly he was speaking of the United States as 'the Great City.'”

And clearly that's just another assumption on your part.

Nowhere did the alleged seer say that "the Great City" means "the United States," which is a country, not a city.

In another portion of the statement, he used the term "great cities," and he means... cities.

Another assumption on your part: The fact that the term "the Great City" is capitalized has meaning somehow. Who capitalized it? Who wrote those statements?

For goodness sake, they're just sentences on a website. Do you contend that Alois himself wrote those things and capitalized them?

In fact, the very sentence you quote defeats your presupposition.

After speaking about "the Great City" being destroyed by rockets, it then states: "and the West Coast will be invaded by Asians, but they will be beaten back..."

Well, if "the Great City" means the entire country, and the entire country gets destroyed, how does the West Coast (notice the caps?) get invaded by Asians if the country is destroyed? And if the entire country has already been destroyed, who beats them back?


Again, I ask: If an alleged seer makes a prophecy, and that prophecy has not yet taken place, does that mean the prophecy is "wrong"?
DJRESQ
By the way, when the alleged prophecies include the names of cities after the expression "three great cities," the names of those cities are in brackets, which should have been an indication to you that they were added by someone else and not mentioned by the seer.

In fact, there are other translations of those exact statements that can be found on the Internet, and none of the names of the …More
By the way, when the alleged prophecies include the names of cities after the expression "three great cities," the names of those cities are in brackets, which should have been an indication to you that they were added by someone else and not mentioned by the seer.

In fact, there are other translations of those exact statements that can be found on the Internet, and none of the names of the cities are included.

Another clue should have been in the statement "Then from 'K' [Koln?]..." Notice the brackets and the question mark? There's no indication that the seer said the word "Koln?" as if the seer did not know what he was saying. There is every reason to believe that someone else added that, just as the other names of the cities were added.

As I said, other translations are on the Internet, and the names of the cities are omitted.

In addition, the term "the great city" is a biblical expression that can be in the Apocalypse in several places. There is no indication that it refers to a country. In fact, every indication is to the contrary, that it is referring to a city.
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DJRESQ
The prophecy does not state that "the great city" of the United States will be destroyed, and the west coast invaded, in the year 1999. It states, ""The year 1999 will bring destruction, followed by peace." There is nothing specific as to where the destruction occurs, how, and of what the "destruction" consists. The prophecy regarding the U.S. is unrelated to that prophecy and unrelated to that …More
The prophecy does not state that "the great city" of the United States will be destroyed, and the west coast invaded, in the year 1999. It states, ""The year 1999 will bring destruction, followed by peace." There is nothing specific as to where the destruction occurs, how, and of what the "destruction" consists. The prophecy regarding the U.S. is unrelated to that prophecy and unrelated to that year. They are disjointed statements and do not follow chronologically.
One of Alois’ prophecies:

"The year 1999 will bring destruction, followed by peace.
"The "Great City" of the United States will be destroyed by rockets, and the West Coast will be invaded by Asians, but they will be beaten back...

He was correct some of the time but not even prophets are right all of the time. The West Coast was not invaded by Asians. However, the Southern border is being …
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One of Alois’ prophecies:

"The year 1999 will bring destruction, followed by peace.
"The "Great City" of the United States will be destroyed by rockets, and the West Coast will be invaded by Asians, but they will be beaten back...

He was correct some of the time but not even prophets are right all of the time. The West Coast was not invaded by Asians. However, the Southern border is being invaded by human trafficers, drug smugglers, violent MS-13 gang members and various other assorted human debris who are trying to enter the United States illegally.

Build the Wall.
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