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Civiltà Cattolica” fights Catholic Marriage: The Vatican journal “La Civiltà Cattolica” published by the Jesuits with Papal imprimatur is fighting against the indissolubility of marriage in support …More
Civiltà Cattolica” fights Catholic Marriage: The Vatican journal “La Civiltà Cattolica” published by the Jesuits with Papal imprimatur is fighting against the indissolubility of marriage in support of the ultraliberal Cardinal Walter Kasper. The magazine dusts off a concession granted by the Council of Trent for Catholics living in the Greek islands under Venetian rule who with the permission of their Latin bishops attended Orthodox churches and services. The Venetian ambassadors asked the council to allow these Catholics to maintain their “rites,” including the possibility of contracting second marriages in the case of adultery.

Sandro Magister Disclaims: The thesis of “La Civiltà Cattolica” is that Trent made a gesture of “evangelical mercy” and that the next synod should do the same. But journalist Sandro Magister points out that in reality, there was no beginning of “openness” to second marriages at Trent, but simply the decision not to enter into direct conflict on this point with the Orthodox although there was and is no doubt that their practice of a second or even third marriage is immoral.

Not Reproduced With the Uniates: The exceptional and historical case of the Greek islands was extinguished with the loss of those territories at the hands of the Turks. It was not reproduced with the Uniates, the communities that switched from Orthodoxy to union with the Roman Church. They were asked for a preliminary confession of faith with the express indication of the impossibility of a second marriage.

Flawed Sources: Ultraliberals like Cardinal Kasper examine the indissolubility of marriage in the Church of the first centuries based on a reconstruction made by ultraliberal Fr Giovanni Cereti in the 1977 book “Divorce, new marriages, and penance in the primitive Church”. This was the main, if not the only, source of reference used by Cardinal Kasper in his controversial address to the consistory in February of 2014. But Kasper ignored all of the subsequent studies conducted by illustrious patrologists like Father Henri Crouzel and Father Gilles Pelland, both Jesuits, who tore Cereti’s reconstruction to shreds.
Francis to the Synod: “Speak clearly, do not think there are issues that cannot be discussed”

Francis asked Bishops to listen to the opinions of the others openly and with interest.

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"At the same time, one must listen with humility and take in the words of our brothers with an open heart. With these two attitudes, one practices synodality”.
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Andrés dijo...
El diablo se alegra ante esto. Así se asegura de que -casi- toda misa contenga una comunión sacrílega: se instaurará el Sacrilegio Perpetuo, obrado dentro de los templos por mano de los Sacerdotes de Dios.
5 de octubre de 2014, 17:05
CAN. XI. Si alguno dijere, que sola la fe es preparación suficiente para recibir el sacramento de la santísima Eucaristía; sea excomulgado. Y para que no se reciba indignamente tan grande Sacramento, y por consecuencia cause muerte y condenación; establece y declara el mismo santo Concilio, que los que se sienten gravados con conciencia de pecado mortal, por contritos que se crean, deben para …More
CAN. XI. Si alguno dijere, que sola la fe es preparación suficiente para recibir el sacramento de la santísima Eucaristía; sea excomulgado. Y para que no se reciba indignamente tan grande Sacramento, y por consecuencia cause muerte y condenación; establece y declara el mismo santo Concilio, que los que se sienten gravados con conciencia de pecado mortal, por contritos que se crean, deben para recibirlo, anticipar necesariamente la confesión sacramental, habiendo confesor. Y si alguno presumiere enseñar, predicar o afirmar con pertinacia lo contrario, o también defenderlo en disputas públicas, quede por el mismo caso excomulgado.

Trento también enseña:
CAN. VII. Si alguno dijere, que la Iglesia yerra cuando ha enseñado y enseña, según la doctrina del Evangelio y de los Apóstoles, que no se puede disolver el vínculo del Matrimonio por el adulterio de uno de los dos consortes; y cuando enseña que ninguno de los dos, ni aun el inocente que no dio motivo al adulterio, puede contraer otro Matrimonio viviendo el otro consorte; y que cae en fornicación el que se casare con otra dejada la primera por adúltera, o la que, dejando al adúltero, se casare con otro; sea excomulgado.
(Cánones sobre el sacramento del Matrimonio)
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Communion for "Remarried Divorcees": "Eucharist Not a Superstitious Rite – Outside State of Grace, Not Only Useless, But Sacrilegious."
The Council of Trent, could not be clearer: Session XXIV, Canon VII - If any one saith, that the Church has erred, in that she hath taught, and doth teach, in accordance with the evangelical and apostolical doctrine, that the bond of matrimony cannot be …More
Communion for "Remarried Divorcees": "Eucharist Not a Superstitious Rite – Outside State of Grace, Not Only Useless, But Sacrilegious."
The Council of Trent, could not be clearer: Session XXIV, Canon VII - If any one saith, that the Church has erred, in that she hath taught, and doth teach, in accordance with the evangelical and apostolical doctrine, that the bond of matrimony cannot be dissolved on account of the adultery of one of the married parties; and that both, or even the innocent one who gave not occasion to the adultery, cannot contract another marriage, during the life-time of the other; and, that he is guilty of adultery, who, having put away the adulteress, shall take another wife, as also she, who, having put away the adulterer, shall take another husband; let him be anathema.

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Mas respondiendo Pedro y los apóstoles, dijeron: Debemos obedecer a Dios antes que a los hombres. Hechos 5:29
Ludovicus dijo...
Lo dice, lo alude, pero no lo define claramente. Nadie quiere expulsar de la Iglesia a los concubinos, nadie se niega a llevarles el Evangelio. Lo único que no pueden recibir es la aprobación de su conducta y la eucaristía mientras no la modifiquen. Pero siempre la alusión es indirecta. Es lo mismo que con la adúltera telefónica, los bebes bautizados de parejas irregulares, los …More
Ludovicus dijo...
Lo dice, lo alude, pero no lo define claramente. Nadie quiere expulsar de la Iglesia a los concubinos, nadie se niega a llevarles el Evangelio. Lo único que no pueden recibir es la aprobación de su conducta y la eucaristía mientras no la modifiquen. Pero siempre la alusión es indirecta. Es lo mismo que con la adúltera telefónica, los bebes bautizados de parejas irregulares, los bautismos masivos etc: rock around the clock. Lo que subyace es la idea de dar el carnet a cualquiera y dejarlo entrar al club y al restaurante, que pague las cuotas es secundario. La conducta sexual es secundaria, en un campo de batalla nadie mide el colesterol. Primero se distribuyen los sacramentos con un modelo inclusivo de acumulación, después veremos. Parece el programa del presidente de un club de fútbol en decadencia.
Lo curioso es que es lo contrario de la praxis de la tan idolatrada Iglesia primitiva, donde los sacramentos eran celosamente reservados y resguardados a traves del arcano y de exigentes pruebas. Ay, quién fue el no misericordiador que habló de no dar las cosas sacras a los perros...
Creo que conjugando varias definiciones, esta prasis de comunión para todos es herética, Trento es claro. Para plantearlo en términos teológicos y blanco sobre negro habría que formular la siguiente proposición y obligarlo a definirse:
"Si alguien dijere que puede acercarse lícitamente a la eucaristía el pecador grave que no se convierte; o el que vive en estado de pecado mortal habitual sin abandonarla; y que tampoco requieren para recibir el cuerpo del Señor la absolución sacramental válida o dolor de contrición perfecta cuando fuere imposible recibir el sacramento, sea anatema"
5 de octubre de 2014, 12:41
Amanda de jesus
EL DEBATE SEGUIRA..... POR ESO EL SINODO....REPRESENTANTES DE TODO EL MUNDO, NO SOLO EL CARDENAL KASPER....POR ESO MUCHA ORACION POR ESTE SINODO Y CONFIANZA EN NUESTROS PASTORES Y QUE LA IGLESIA ES DE CRISTO....
Amanda de jesus
OREMOS POR LOS CARDENALES DEL SINODO Y NUESTRO PAPA FRANCISCO....
If Kasper falsifies quotations from the Fathers of the Church the Jesuit are willing to do anything to promote sacrilegious communions.
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Is there any surprise that Jesuits come forth with all sorts worldly doctrine? But there's a miss conception here, this is not Kasper's baby... Who has let this happen? Who has said we need change and get rid of the old structures? Who invited Kasper to address the cardinals on this absurd false doctrine?

This is not the Orthodox 'I'll do whatever I want' Church, this is the Catholic Church, …More
Is there any surprise that Jesuits come forth with all sorts worldly doctrine? But there's a miss conception here, this is not Kasper's baby... Who has let this happen? Who has said we need change and get rid of the old structures? Who invited Kasper to address the cardinals on this absurd false doctrine?

This is not the Orthodox 'I'll do whatever I want' Church, this is the Catholic Church, and Cardinal Burke is right, Truth cannot be touched and if they do, then is no longer Catholic but protestant, so again everyone is pointing fingers to Kasper and yes he is at fault... but he has said, all that he preaches was idea of the pope and the pope haven't silenced him, on the contrary it seems that there's a strong PR propaganda coming from the very top, using all channels to reach catholics, implying... this false Mercy is not only good but is what God wants.

We can spend the whole day talking about how this pope has targeted conservatives, but what about targeting doctrine... 'who am I to judge' is definitely the summary of the INCLUSION propaganda, which also includes accepting Gay civil unions and blessing them.

Worldliness is ahead for the unprepared and Martyrdom for those who love the Church and Apostolic teachings... Apostasy is about to be unleashed, we need to pray for those priests who will stand for our Lord's commandments.
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