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Lionel L. Andrades

All non Catholic immigrants in Rome, Italy are on the way to Hell unless they convert into the Catholic Church: this is Catholic teaching according to Lega Nord?

All non Catholic immigrants in Rome, Italy are on the way to Hell unless they convert into the Catholic Church: this is Catholic teaching according to Lega Nord?

Matteo Salvini there are two interpretations of Vatican Council II.One is false and the other true.One is ideological and the other magisterial.One is of the two popes and the other is mine.The two popes are irrational, non traditional and heretical.They have overlooked a factual mistake.
OBJECTIVE MISTAKE AMONG LEGA NORD CATHOLICS
This is the objective mistake being made by most(all) Catholics including members of the Catholic political parties in Italy.When they will avoid this objective error, like I do, then the interpretation of Vatican Council II changes.It becomes traditional, rational and magisterial.
INTERPRET VATICAN COUNCIL TRADITIONALLY
Interpret Vatican Council II traditionally, rationally and according to the text of the Council, by simply referring to Lumen Gentium 16, Lumen Gentum 8, Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Nostra Aetate 2 etc as referring to invisible, hypothetical and theoretical cases in 2017.So they cannot be known, explicit, objective and concrete exceptions to the Church teaching on all needing to be members of the Church for salvation.

NO SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
Since there cannot be any physically known exception to all needing to be members of the Church in 2017; since there are no known cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance without the baptism of water,past or present, all immigrants in Italy need to convert into the Catholic Church to avoid the fires of Hell.They are all free to follow their religion however since there is no salvation outside the Church, Catholics must be free to work for the non separation of Church and State and all political legislation must have its centre in Jesus Christ as known in the Catholic Church.
NO EXCEPTIONS TO TRADITIONAL ECCLESIOCENTRISM
In 2017 all non Catholics need to enter the Church with 'faith and baptism' (AG 7,LG 14, Council of Trent, Council of Florence 1441 etc) to avoid the fires of Hell.Since there is no known salvation outside the Church and there are no exceptions to the traditional ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church.
This is how I interpret Vatican Council II and everyone else can do the same.

INTER-RELIGIOUS DIALOGUE: CATHOLIC POSITION
In inter-religious dialogue, Lega Nord, proclaim,like St.Paul, that all need to believe in Jesus in the Catholic Church,which was the Early Church, the Early Christians, the Early Catholics, the only Church Jesus founded.
Proclaim Jesus Christ and the need for all Protestants, Evangelicals and Orthodox Christians to accept Jesus in the Catholic Church.All Jews, Hindus, Buddhists and Muslims need to convert into the Catholic Church to go to Heaven and avoid the fires of Hell.
Most people go to Hell since they die without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7,LG 14) in the Catholic Church.

CATHOLICS THE NEW PEOPLE OF GOD(NOSTRA AETATE)
Catholics are the new people of God(Nostra Aetate 4, Vatican Council II).In Heaven there are only Catholics.The Catholic Church is the only Ark of Noah that saves in the flood(CCC 845).
All the non Catholic immigrants in Rome are on the way to Hell since they know about the Church(LG 14) and yet do not enter.They die without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7, LG 14).Extra ecclesiam nulla salus( Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence 1441).

NON CATHOLIC IMMIGRANTS IN ROME LOST
All non Catholic immigrants in Rome,Italy are on the way to the fires of Hell is the Catholic understanding of the Catholic Faith for members of the Lega Nord?
Matteo Salvini please make an announcement on the Lega Nord position on Vatican Council II.
Ask the two popes and the Vatican Curia to affirm the Catholic faith according to the text of Vatican Council II.

HISTORIC MAGISTERIAL MISTAKE
The two popes have overlooked a mistake.They assume hypothetical and theoretical cases of the baptism of desire etc are objective exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) as interpreted by the 16th century missionaries.So for them there is ' a development of doctrine' with Vatican Council II.
VATICAN CLARIFICATION NEEDED
The Vatican must be asked to correct this objective mistake on what it calls 'the ecclesiocentrism of the past'(Redemptoris Missio).Please ask, through your official Lega Nord sources for a clarification from the Vatican.
As Catholics your position must be : Vatican Council II indicates all non Catholic immigrants in Rome and Italy are on the way to Hell without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church(AG 7, LG 14).

CATHOLIC MAGISTERIAL PROCLAMATION
This must be your proclamation as Catholics. It is supported by Vatican Council II(AG 7, LG 14), Catechism of the Catholic Church(1257,845,846),Council of Florence 1441,Nicene Creed("I believe in one baptism"), Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation),Mystici Corporis, Evangelii Nuntiandi,Dominus Iesus 20( universal salvation is available in potential for all, in reality all need to enter the Church to receive it), Redemptoris Missio 55( the Church is the ordinary means of salvation),Ecclesia de Eucharestia,Ut Unum Sint,Letter of the Holy Office 1949 (first part) etc.
LETTER OF THE HOLY OFFICE CONTRADICTS ITSELF
The second part of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston has made an objective mistake.It contradicts the first part.It wrongly assumes that there are known cases of being saved in invincible ignorance and with what the Baltimore Catechism called the baptism of desire.It further assumes that these are personally known cases without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.So they irrationally infer that these (theoretical) cases are (practical) exceptions to the dogma EENS.
HOLY OFFICE IN HERESY
The Letter irrationally criticizes Fr.Leonard Feeney and the St.Benedict Centers, including professors at Boston College,who were really orthodox, as being heretical.When it was really the Holy Office and the Archbishop of Boston and the U.S Jesuits who had brought an innovation into the Church and were heretically rejecting the dogma EENS, the Nicene Creed, the Athanasius Creed and other magisterial documents.
NO PHYSICALLY VISIBLE EXCEPTIONS TO EENS THS YEAR
It is a fact of life that for us humans there cannot be known exceptions to the dogma EENS.This is something obvious. It is common sense.We cannot meet or physically see someone saved without the baptism of water.Yet this was ther main thesis, the new premise of the Holy Office in 1949 and still is 'magisterial'.
MAJOR PHILOSOPHICAL ERROR IN THE CHURCH
This is now a major philosophical error in the Catholic Church and is the foundation of the new theology approved by Rahner, Kung,Ratzinger and other liberal, pro-Masonic, theologians.
POPES HAVE MADE FACTUAL MISTAKE
The popes have made a factual mistake on Vatican Council II and the Lega Nord needs to ask them to correct it .Ask the Vatican to clarify that Vatican Council II indicates (AG 7, LG 14) all non Catholic immigrants in Rome are on the way to the fires of Hell, unless they convert visibly ( with faith and baptism) into the Catholic Church.-Lionel Andrades

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