@Koza Nutria Hmmm. Where did I state that Burke has spoken against doctrine? The point here is Burke's failure to engage those who DO speak against doctrine. He doesn't. And if he does, he does so very weakly while shaming the flock to remain in dangerous places.

It's also dangerous of you to put words into my mouth. Where did I say that NO priests are all wrong? I didn't say that. It's good that you 'see' some are damaged by seminaries and that's another issue. Bad seminaries produced bad fruit.

Telling the sheep that they should remain in place and fight without any tangible weapons while a Prince of the Church sits idly talking, talking, and talking is no sign of true leadership. His performance is more disheartening than that of leftist/progressive clergy. Why? Because he's supposed to be one of the good guys. That's scary.

Fight? His Excellency should fight and not remove his teeth before doing so.

The idea that Catholics should remain where they're regularly indoctrinated with bile is absurd and spiritual suicide. He may consider himself "strong" enough, but he has no children dependent upon him. Those in their formative years. (Ooops. Yes, he does. And his Excellency advocates remaining in place at the peril of said children.)

I'm so sick of the remain in place orders. It seems that he's more concerned about keeping the buildings than anything.

"...has not yet been dogmatically dealt with," translates to "we have no idea what to make of the resignation and/or the election of a supposedly new pope who, dogmatically, may not be the pope at all. But he is for you guys."

Whatever Mueller. The doublespeak is digging your deeper and deeper when a simple admission of "I don't know and cannot say with dogmatic authority," would suffice. Why? Because that's the truth.

Haven't we been scandalized enough already??? Seriously.

@Alex A
No kidding. Thou has said it.

+Burke is so busy trying to create schism where there isn't schism, that his words against the German schism are completely devoid of meaning.

You're not leading +Burke. What you're about is Arm Chair Quarterbacking. That's confirmed each and every time you did zippo against actual heresy while finger pointing to those who you may fear are actually doing more than you. It's called having skin in the game, not a facade of faithful on your terms.

Feel better.

Yes, and the sun is really hot. No kidding.

Assorted heresies have been going on for a long, long, long time. Some you comment on, others you let slide. So, please, just get better. Heal. Take your time.

These one off comments are more depressing than anything.

Why?

For Burke, whatever he chooses to stand up against is heresy, but what he chooses to ignore and or slam or sideline for convenience sake is no problem at all. Maybe if he'd actually address Francis directly, to his face, and cease and desist from labeling others schismatics for 'fear' of schism while the German Church does their schism thing, I'd give his 'words' more weight.

Until then.... these comments are tossed out every once in a while to uphold the facade of being aligned with Catholic tradition/teaching. Such a disappointment.

So the "unique" expression of the Novus Ordo is turning away from God then?

Thanks for putting the horns on the horns and tail. Clear teaching at last!!!

Does someone fear ruining his chances for promotion??

Side note: These grinning head shots make me ill. At the very least, take on a serious look when you're photographed, please. Think Stalin propaganda pic. Conveys the message better.

Do you really need the piano tinkling??? Good grief.

This is theater.

Hmmm. The so-called squabbling, "...only began with the Novus Ordo revolution and have never ceased since." I wonder why.

Could be that Catholics with actual Catholic sensibilities smelled a rat. Our Lord prayed for unity to the Father but bid the Apostles in the Upper Room to continue to do ALL that He taught them. That's not uniting in error by my way of thinking. <shrug>

If unity were the only issue, we could all unite in the pretext that sin is now abolished by papal mandate and ALL are now considered to be baptized into the Church. Go big or go home.

The practice of 'renting' out the Church for secular events opens the doors to discrimination lawsuits wherein the Church can legitimately be sued for disallowing certain groups. Perfect storm for front page headlines about how the Church is anti-FILL-IN-THE-BLANK. Then the hue and cry of compassion is engaged and doctrine is subsequently trashed on the altar of political correctness.

The higher ups KNOW this. They're chess players of a sort, so the idea that diocese are caught unaware is unbelievable to me. The powers-that-be are either fifth columnists, intentionally destroying the Church from within, or so vacant in their perceptions as to be unfit for office.

"Nope, and you ain't citing any Canon law because I'll make you eat it if you're dumb enough to try. There's a food metaphor, eh? Canon Law 751 is explicit. You guys are out. Simple as that.

You'll make me eat it? Get help, Ultra, and get out of mom's basement. You don't know of what spirit you are.

This statement, "You schismatics ignore his ecclesiastic authority entirely. You set yourselves has his judges and equals, even when he is speaking as the head of The Church on matters of faith and morals," explains your situation perfectly.

You are ignoring the teachings of Holy Mother Church to set yourself up as the authority. Why? To feel better about the problems you pretend will evaporate as you float nonsense like, "We submit to the Pope, as the FSSP does. Following him is a different matter and that's the kind of technical distinction that's lost on you as it is with other schismatics."

You're the one negating the whole of canon law to pick and choose and pretend that you're obedient when you're not. <shrug>