Francis Orders "Visitation" Of Spanish Seminaries

The Congregation for the Clergy will carry out an Apostolic Visitation in all 45 diocesan seminaries in Spain between January and February 2023, the bishops announced on 6 November.

One wonders how so many seminaries can be "visited" in such a short time, unless the results of the visitation are predetermined. The "visitators" are two Uruguayan bishops, Milton Tróccoli, 58, and Arturo Fajardo, 61, both former rectors of the inter-diocesan Cristo Rey Seminary in Montevideo.

VidaNuevaDigital.com (8 Nov) reports that Spanish bishops and seminary rectors were surprised by the announcement. The matter was allegedly cooked up by Francis' grey eminence in Spain, Father Germán Arana Beorlegui SJ, and Barcelona's Cardinal Juan José Omella.

It is likely that the scheme is directed against the flourishing Redemptoris Mater Seminary of the Neocatechumenal Way in Madrid.

ElConfidencial.com quotes an anonymous Spanish rector who believes the visitation will end "with the imposition of a process of 'psychologisation' on seminarians", making it difficult to persevere and confusing seminarians about the priestly identity.

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John A Cassani
The “psychologisation” of the priesthood has done more damage to the priestly identity than anything else, aside from the Novus ordo, possibly.
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
This is true, but the Novus Ordo has done the most harm, almost from the very first when it was rolled out.
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
" flourishing Redemptoris Mater Seminary of the Neocatechumenal Way in Madrid." This group isn't really Catholic in the first place, so "who cares?" if it is investigated. They are more like a cult. Before Vatican II, Spain was among the most conservative of Catholic countries, and it took relatively long for the "deforms" of Vatican II to penetrate into Spanish religious life.....but its done its …More
" flourishing Redemptoris Mater Seminary of the Neocatechumenal Way in Madrid." This group isn't really Catholic in the first place, so "who cares?" if it is investigated. They are more like a cult. Before Vatican II, Spain was among the most conservative of Catholic countries, and it took relatively long for the "deforms" of Vatican II to penetrate into Spanish religious life.....but its done its work now. Most religious Orders in Spain are aged communities and habitless dying liberal Orders of nuns. There ARE still 2-3 dozen good Orders of nuns left in Spain, and a handful of good male religious Orders.....but most have gone the same way as other European countries.
Even in India now, which was up until 25 years ago, fairly conservative in its Catholic outlook, many religious orders-especially of nuns- have discarded the habits, and "updated" the way their European and American counterparts did 45-50 years ago. And the results have been the same....massive declines, few vocations, aging religious. You'd think everyone would learv after 55+ years of Vatican II rot. But Francis and company still keeps pushing it with little opposition. Therefore the Church deserves what it gets.
Salvatore Bastatti
Another reason Gordo has to go-- and Deo placente soon. Soon.
P. O'B
In the last few months I have filled in playing the organ at a parish run by two Neo-Cat priests. While I have read much negative about the group over the last two decades or so, and I am sure accurate in its negativity, have been happily surprised by these two priests. Reverent Masses, one priest using the Roman Canon very often, fine sermons, strict moral theology, and not a word of complaint …More
In the last few months I have filled in playing the organ at a parish run by two Neo-Cat priests. While I have read much negative about the group over the last two decades or so, and I am sure accurate in its negativity, have been happily surprised by these two priests. Reverent Masses, one priest using the Roman Canon very often, fine sermons, strict moral theology, and not a word of complaint about the very traditional music (once Latin) that I have selected. The Neo-Cats will never be my cup of tea, and maybe their private antics are goofy to say the least, but I have respect at least for these two priests. And I have found kindness and gratitude, the lack of which drove me from the local FSSP parish years ago.