Open Revolt in the Vatican?

The Vaticanista Marco Tosatti writes that “a cardinal of great renown, a former diplomat, with an important curriculum at the head of Congregations and important offices in the Secretariat of State”, reproached Francis for his reckless undermining of Catholic doctrine.

During a meeting with Francis the cardinal said in essence: “We elected you to make reforms, not to shatter everything.” According to Tosatti, the discussion became known because the two started raising their voices.

The prelate belongs to the cardinals who in 2013 voted for Bergoglio. A scan through the list of the participants in the 2013 conclave shows that the cardinal most likely involved in this incident is Leonardo Sandri, 74, the Prefect of the Congregation for the Oriental Churches.

Picture: Leonardo Sandri, #newsNuujpawibs

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Dr Bobus

Dec 5, 2017

Rafferju. I realize it's something new for you. You just need to spend a few days (or weeks) thinking about it.

Dr Bobus

Dec 3, 2017

No, God didn't get it wrong--you did.
I agree that the presumption of heaven is common now, which is a sin against the virtue of Hope. This is most manifest in funerals, mainly because Purgatory has been jettisoned. The purpose of a funeral mass has been forgotten. It is now considered a celebration of life rather than acts appealing for the salvation of the deceased because it includes both the …More

No, God didn't get it wrong--you did.

I agree that the presumption of heaven is common now, which is a sin against the virtue of Hope. This is most manifest in funerals, mainly because Purgatory has been jettisoned. The purpose of a funeral mass has been forgotten. It is now considered a celebration of life rather than acts appealing for the salvation of the deceased because it includes both the Divine Mercy and Justice.

IMHO, belief in Purgatory is the measure for the health of the Church.

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Dr Bobus

Dec 3, 2017

rafferju. I would prefer homilies on Purgatory, where the Divine mercy and justice are both present.

Dr Bobus

Dec 3, 2017

BrTom.Saying the Holy Spirit agreeto work with the pope is too general. Infallibility is a negative protection--against formally contradicting doctrine. Beyond that I know of nothing that guarantees the pope is guided by the HS. In fact, we have evidence to the contrary

BrTomFordeOFMCap

Dec 3, 2017

Dr Bobus I agree with one proviso. The Cardinals elect the Pope and the Holy Spirit agrees to work with the man they pick, saint or sinner. The alternative is that the Holy Spirit has picked some right clangers over the course of the Church's history!