Good Luck! Francis Again Rants Against Catholic Bloggers
During the June 23 General Audience, Francis was unable to hold back his anger over Catholic bloggers who have become the extra-parliamentary opposition …
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Peanuts adult voice when he speaks: wawawa wawa wa.
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Perhaps he should vent his anger on those who promote the china virus injection.
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...and offend his generous Asian donors? Surely you jest. :D
The pope doesn't understand that certain positions that he endorses are just ideas that have been around for hundreds of years.
He is more ideologue than pastor.More
The pope doesn't understand that certain positions that he endorses are just ideas that have been around for hundreds of years.
He is more ideologue than pastor.
He is more ideologue than pastor.
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@Dr Bobus Spot on! An ideology rooted in the Enlightenment thought of materialism, immanentism and a rejection of metaphysics.
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Very true. Bad Popes have been around for hundreds of years as well. It's the main reason I can't get worked up about the latest one. Pope Tagle is going to make Francis look like like a saint. You heard it here first.
philosopher I wasn't referring to the Enlightenment. In fact, the Existentialism at the base of the pope's formation was itself a reaction against the Enlightenment. More specifically, against the Rationalism that had influenced (or infected) Neo Scholasticism.
I was actually referring to centuries before the Enlightenment--the 12th to be specific.More
philosopher I wasn't referring to the Enlightenment. In fact, the Existentialism at the base of the pope's formation was itself a reaction against the Enlightenment. More specifically, against the Rationalism that had influenced (or infected) Neo Scholasticism.
I was actually referring to centuries before the Enlightenment--the 12th to be specific.
I was actually referring to centuries before the Enlightenment--the 12th to be specific.
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@Dr Bobus True, we see the rejection of metaphysics beginning with Ockham's nominalism and its subsequent fragmentation of scholastic philosophy. The Radical Orthodoxy theologians such as John Milbank, identify Dun Scotus as the culprit who started the philosophical and civilizational slide toward modernism, but I think he misreads and hence distorts his understanding of his scholasticism, which is …More
@Dr Bobus True, we see the rejection of metaphysics beginning with Ockham's nominalism and its subsequent fragmentation of scholastic philosophy. The Radical Orthodoxy theologians such as John Milbank, identify Dun Scotus as the culprit who started the philosophical and civilizational slide toward modernism, but I think he misreads and hence distorts his understanding of his scholasticism, which is actually a more intense Aristotelianism than even Aquinas. The unscholastic relativism of Ockham is the actual prime-mover of all modern philosophies running through Luther, Descartes, Bacon, Rousseau, Hobbs, Locke, Hume, Kant, and the existentialists to Derrida and the postmoderns.
We need a robust and un apologetic return to scholasticism, especially in the Church. All modern philosophies are routes traveling from nowhere and arriving at nothing.
We need a robust and un apologetic return to scholasticism, especially in the Church. All modern philosophies are routes traveling from nowhere and arriving at nothing.
Both Ockham and Scotus were born after the 12th century. I was referring to the misunderstanding of the structure of the human act found in Amoris Laetitia.
To a great extent the thought of Scotus, distilled by the Jesuits, dominated the Counter Reformation Church.More
Both Ockham and Scotus were born after the 12th century. I was referring to the misunderstanding of the structure of the human act found in Amoris Laetitia.
To a great extent the thought of Scotus, distilled by the Jesuits, dominated the Counter Reformation Church.
To a great extent the thought of Scotus, distilled by the Jesuits, dominated the Counter Reformation Church.
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@Dr Bobus Thanks for the clarification. I overlooked Peter Abelard in the 12th century, who posited his own form of nominalism and subjective ethics. I can see the connection with Pope Francis and AL. Abelard argued that no matter the human act if the persons intention was pure then they did not sin. He defended his sordid affair with the 16-year-old Heloise who later became an Abbess (Abelard was …More
@Dr Bobus Thanks for the clarification. I overlooked Peter Abelard in the 12th century, who posited his own form of nominalism and subjective ethics. I can see the connection with Pope Francis and AL. Abelard argued that no matter the human act if the persons intention was pure then they did not sin. He defended his sordid affair with the 16-year-old Heloise who later became an Abbess (Abelard was around 30 at the time and her tutor) by stating that a woman who commits fornication with a man out of love has not sinned. Its the same kind of logic we see with Frances.
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Ah... The Supreme Pontiff has apparently been surfing the internet. :D Many clergy (novus ordo and traditionalists alike) are horrified when they read the unedited views of Catholics with opposing positions. They suddenly realize just how deeply the ideological schism has gone. They also learn what Catholics say to each other at "coffee 'n doughnut socials" after Mass in NO way reflects what …More
Ah... The Supreme Pontiff has apparently been surfing the internet. :D Many clergy (novus ordo and traditionalists alike) are horrified when they read the unedited views of Catholics with opposing positions. They suddenly realize just how deeply the ideological schism has gone. They also learn what Catholics say to each other at "coffee 'n doughnut socials" after Mass in NO way reflects what Catholics say to each other online. :D
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The caricatures of Gloria.tv are probably not good for his blood pressure.
