U.S. Based Media Producer Not Approved by WYD 2011

26 July 2011 Madrid WYD WYD Cultural Program Participants Must Be Endorsed by Bishops' Conferences It has come to our attention that Michael Voris, a US based media producer, is scheduled to offer …More
26 July 2011
Madrid
WYD

WYD Cultural Program Participants Must Be Endorsed by Bishops' Conferences
It has come to our attention that Michael Voris, a US based media producer, is scheduled to offer independent catechesis sessions out of a hotel in Madrid during World Youth Day 2011. There has been some confusion regarding his affiliation with World Youth Day. Michael Voris, the clergy and the laity associated with him, and their media efforts “Real Catholic TV” and “No Bull in Madrid” are not in any way recognized or approved by World Youth Day 2011. (16-21 August)
The Vatican's Pontifical Council for the Laity selects and invites Bishops, and only Bishops, from around the world to conduct Catechesis sessions at WYD in various languages.
Participants in the World Youth Day 2011 Cultural Program must be recognized and endorsed by the Bishops and Episcopal Conferences of their respective countries. Participants were selected for Cultural program by the World Youth Day organization in close …More
CitadelCatholicmedia
My Opinion and thoughts:Are the Homosexual groups, the anti catholic groups and any other group who will be at WYD endorsed by the Bishop's Conference?
I can be quite safe saying that Mr. Voris did not pledge obedience to the National Conference of Catholic Bishops.
I wonder how much MONEY the hosting church at Madrid will make on this function. Is Mr Voris cutting into their profit? NOW THIS may …More
My Opinion and thoughts:Are the Homosexual groups, the anti catholic groups and any other group who will be at WYD endorsed by the Bishop's Conference?

I can be quite safe saying that Mr. Voris did not pledge obedience to the National Conference of Catholic Bishops.

I wonder how much MONEY the hosting church at Madrid will make on this function. Is Mr Voris cutting into their profit? NOW THIS may be a good reason for concern.. 😡
holyrope 3
Surely, Raymond Cardinal Burke would vouche for Mr. Voris as well as Many other priests and bishops (interviewed by him) andwho have given him nothing but praise in the work he does and his Fildelity to Holy Mother Church and The Pope. 😇 🤗
Evandro
The problem with Voris is very well exemplified by his attempt at a parallel activity. There is a blessing in being obedient to the Church, especially to her bishops in communion with the Pope. Unfortunately, Voris delides himself thinking that he can vet those who were charged with shepherding the people of God.
gdacumos
What!? Real Catholic TV stands for the truth. Gees, what's up with the Bishops? Speaking of "saving faces..."
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What!? Real Catholic TV stands for the truth. Gees, what's up with the Bishops? Speaking of "saving faces..."

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JTLiuzza
I'll echo what everyone has correctly stated. The Bishops cannot point to one heterodox statement made by Mr. Voris or his organization, not one.
The Vortex, however, has been relentless in pointing out the failures of the USCCB and the contradictions that exist in the Church in the US and elsewhere, and therein lies the problem.More
I'll echo what everyone has correctly stated. The Bishops cannot point to one heterodox statement made by Mr. Voris or his organization, not one.

The Vortex, however, has been relentless in pointing out the failures of the USCCB and the contradictions that exist in the Church in the US and elsewhere, and therein lies the problem.
CitadelCatholicmedia
What a JOKE! I echo what the other posters say and add the the WE, the LAYITY, will save the CHURCH, not the bishops.The Bishops need to grow a pair and address the real problems in the church.
We need Real Masculine Leadership in the Church. I wonder how many bishops would be told "Get Behind Me, Satan." by Christ today?
holyrope 3
Go for it Michael! You have met with plenty of good bishops, such as Raymond Cardinal Burke's personal interview, etc,. etc., Sounds like some jealously going on maybe... Michael will be one of Few if Any Teaching the TRUE Faith to these young people who need to hear it! 👍
Holy Cannoli
A comment posted on Patrick Madrid's blog by Marc Brammer who states that he co-founded RCTV (Real Catholic TV) with Voris in 2008:
"Nothing RealCatholicTV.com has ever done has been done with “approval” owing to the fact that “approval” is not required. The laity, or their efforts, do not operate as ecclesial bodies or functionaries (e.g., prayer groups and Catholic Bible Studies do not need “…More
A comment posted on Patrick Madrid's blog by Marc Brammer who states that he co-founded RCTV (Real Catholic TV) with Voris in 2008:

"Nothing RealCatholicTV.com has ever done has been done with “approval” owing to the fact that “approval” is not required. The laity, or their efforts, do not operate as ecclesial bodies or functionaries (e.g., prayer groups and Catholic Bible Studies do not need “permission” or “approval” before commencing activities) nor is there any real mechanism in place for obtaining such approval.

"For instance, not a single Vortex episode (nearly 800 to date) has ever been “approved” in the sense of receiving some official endorsement by the Church, nor are they required to be “approved” unless there is a claim to be speaking for the Church (which there is not).

Our efforts in Madrid are solely our own undertaking, as is everything that we do. We consult greatly and regularly with various clergy and religious in many of our endeavors, and we are very happy for their support.
The work of the laity, however, is NOT the work of the clergy.

"Additionally, even with the “approval” of the Church on the work of various “official” Church undertakings, we see clearly that in many instances (as with “catholic” universities and hospitals and social justice efforts) this official seal of “approval” is rendered meaningless by the actions or intentions of some of those involved.

"So, while we grateful for the clarification on the part of WYD officials that our efforts are not “approved,” our response is, “Thank you for clearing up a matter that we failed to see needed clarification. We never said we were “approved” and “approval” is not required for lay endeavors on behalf of the Faith.'"

patrickmadrid.com/world-youth-day…
Holy Cannoli
If history is any indication, there will be groups at WYD passing out condoms and anti-Catholic literature. Where’s the Bishops' Press Release warning everyone about THEM?
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If a pant load of Muslim Imams, Jewish Rabbis and Protestant ministers wanted to take part in WYD under the banner of "ecumenism" and "dialogue," I'm sure the red carpet would be rolled out by the same bishop's conferences. …More
If history is any indication, there will be groups at WYD passing out condoms and anti-Catholic literature. Where’s the Bishops' Press Release warning everyone about THEM?

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If a pant load of Muslim Imams, Jewish Rabbis and Protestant ministers wanted to take part in WYD under the banner of "ecumenism" and "dialogue," I'm sure the red carpet would be rolled out by the same bishop's conferences. Voris represents a threat to liberalism & heterodoxy within the Catholic Church and therefore is "not recognized."

"The floor of hell etc., etc., etc."

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Irapuato
😁 O-oops!