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More Smoke: Vatican Explanation of Francis' Statement on Homosex Unions

Austen Ivereigh tweeted on November 1 a Spanish text, sent by an official of the Secretariat of State to a Latin-American nuncio explaining Francis’ statements on homosex unions.

The text was translated by WherePeterIs.com (November 1)

TO HELP UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE EXPRESSIONS OF THE POPE IN THE DOCUMENTARY “FRANCESCO”

Some statements contained in the documentary Francisco by filmmaker Evgeny Afineevsky, have provoked, in the past few days, a variety of reactions and interpretations. Therefore, we are offering some useful points of clarification, with the hope of — per his instruction — providing an adequate comprehension of the words of the Holy Father.

More than a year ago, during an interview, Pope Francis answered two different questions at two different times that, in the aforementioned documentary, were edited and published as a single answer without the proper contextualization, which has generated confusion. The Holy Father had first made a reference to the pastoral need that, within the family, a son or daughter with a homosexual orientation should never be discriminated against. These words refer to this: “Homosexuals have a right to be a part of the family. They’re children of God and have a right to a family. Nobody should be thrown out, or be made miserable because of it.”

The following paragraph of the Post-Synodal Apostolic Exhortation Amoris Laetitia on Love in the Family (2016) can shed greater light on this statement:

“The Church makes her own the attitude of the Lord Jesus, who offers his boundless love to each person without exception. During the Synod, we discussed the situation of families whose members include persons who experience same-sex attraction, a situation not easy either for parents or for children. We would like before all else to reaffirm that every person, regardless of sexual orientation, ought to be respected in his or her dignity and treated with consideration, while ‘every sign of unjust discrimination’ is to be carefully avoided, particularly any form of aggression and violence. Such families should be given respectful pastoral guidance, so that those who manifest a homosexual orientation can receive the assistance they need to understand and fully carry out God’s will in their lives” (AL 250).

A subsequent question from the interview was in reference to a ten-year-old local law in Argentina on “marriage equality of same-sex couples” and his opposition to them as the then-Archbishop of Buenos Aires in this regard. To this end, Pope Francis has affirmed that “it is an incongruity to speak of homosexual marriage,” adding that—in that in the same context—he had spoken about the rights of these people to have certain legal protection: “What we have to have is a civil union (convivencia civil) law. That way they are legally covered. I stood up for that.”

The Holy Father expressed himself this way during an interview in 2014: “Marriage is between a man and a woman. Secular states want to justify civil unions to regulate different situations of cohabitation, pushed by the demand to regulate economic aspects between persons, such as ensuring health care. It is about pacts of cohabitating of various natures, of which I wouldn’t know how to list the different ways. One needs to see the different cases and evaluate them in their variety” (CNA Translation).

Therefore, it is clear that Pope Francis was referring to certain provisions made by states, and certainly not to the doctrine of the Church, which he has reaffirmed numerous times over the years.

[Note from en.news: Francis saw the documentary before it was released to the public.]
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Carthusian Silence
To accept homosexual civil unions is the same as accepting freedom to choose a religion, I think. The Church says Jesus is God, but she doesn't oppose if someone wants to convert to (e.g.) Islamism. The Church says marriage is between man and woman, should she oppose to marriage between two people of the same sex? It's all about conscience, "the aboriginal Vicar of Christ" (J. H. Newman). This is …More
To accept homosexual civil unions is the same as accepting freedom to choose a religion, I think. The Church says Jesus is God, but she doesn't oppose if someone wants to convert to (e.g.) Islamism. The Church says marriage is between man and woman, should she oppose to marriage between two people of the same sex? It's all about conscience, "the aboriginal Vicar of Christ" (J. H. Newman). This is my opinion. And my opinion is also that a Pope must be crystal clear.
Scapular
“Those who would move from tolerance to the legitimization of specific rights for cohabiting homosexual persons need to be reminded that the approval or legalization of evil is something far different from the toleration of evil. In those situations where homosexual unions have been legally recognized or have been given the legal status and rights belonging to marriage, clear and emphatic opposition …More
“Those who would move from tolerance to the legitimization of specific rights for cohabiting homosexual persons need to be reminded that the approval or legalization of evil is something far different from the toleration of evil. In those situations where homosexual unions have been legally recognized or have been given the legal status and rights belonging to marriage, clear and emphatic opposition is a duty.”
Carthusian Silence
Yes, one must oppose to it as far as you don't go against the conscience of anybody. The conscience is too dear to God and the Church... see that even the document you quoted expresses this idea: "everyone can exercise the right to conscientious objection."
F M Shyanguya
It appears that their plan is backfiring
More Smoke: because there is a fire, which is this:
“What we have to have is a civil union (convivencia civil) law. That way they are legally covered. I stood up for that.”
No Catholic can stand up for that, therefore, the following:
Therefore, it is clear that Pope Francis was referring to certain provisions made by states, and certainly not to the doctrine …More
It appears that their plan is backfiring

More Smoke: because there is a fire, which is this:

“What we have to have is a civil union (convivencia civil) law. That way they are legally covered. I stood up for that.”

No Catholic can stand up for that, therefore, the following:

Therefore, it is clear that Pope Francis was referring to certain provisions made by states, and certainly not to the doctrine of the Church, which he has reaffirmed numerous times over the years.

Is schizophrenia.