Gloria.TV News on the 26th of September 2014 Evil: Pope Francis has dismissed Bishop Rogelio Ricardo Livieres Plano von Ciudad del Este in Paraguay from all his positions. Livieres is member of Opus …More
Gloria.TV News on the 26th of September 2014
Evil: Pope Francis has dismissed Bishop Rogelio Ricardo Livieres Plano von Ciudad del Este in Paraguay from all his positions. Livieres is member of Opus Dei and one of the world's most Catholic bishops. He publicly criticized Asuncion archbishop Eustaquio Pastor Cuquejo Verga for being homosexual. The Vatican press release claims that the dismissal came for alleged serious pastoral reasons and in favor of a - quote - “unity” among the bishops of Paraguay. Bishop Livieres is replaced by an apostolic administrator. It is one of the most anti-Catholic bishops of Paraguay, Ricardo Jorge Valenzuela Ríos from Villarrica del Espiritu Santo.
No Future With Vatican II: The well-known blogger, Father Tim Finigan, was recently replaced as a parish-priest of Our Lady of the Rosary in Blackfen by Fr Steven Fisher. Fisher announced that with the end of September all masses according to the Traditional Roman Rite will be stopped. Of the four Sunday masses …More
Evil: Pope Francis has dismissed Bishop Rogelio Ricardo Livieres Plano von Ciudad del Este in Paraguay from all his positions. Livieres is member of Opus Dei and one of the world's most Catholic bishops. He publicly criticized Asuncion archbishop Eustaquio Pastor Cuquejo Verga for being homosexual. The Vatican press release claims that the dismissal came for alleged serious pastoral reasons and in favor of a - quote - “unity” among the bishops of Paraguay. Bishop Livieres is replaced by an apostolic administrator. It is one of the most anti-Catholic bishops of Paraguay, Ricardo Jorge Valenzuela Ríos from Villarrica del Espiritu Santo.
No Future With Vatican II: The well-known blogger, Father Tim Finigan, was recently replaced as a parish-priest of Our Lady of the Rosary in Blackfen by Fr Steven Fisher. Fisher announced that with the end of September all masses according to the Traditional Roman Rite will be stopped. Of the four Sunday masses …More
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Hermanos tengan cuidado con las cuentas del moderador argentino germanpb = Dios te salve María vean aquí por ejemplo como MALICIOSAMENTE utilizó la cuenta ficticia Tamara Rodero para calumniar al fallecido Obispo Livieres en Paraguay luego eliminó su comentario, obispo al que la mafia Gay en venganza para silenciarlo quería acusar falsamente de encubrimiento de abuso sexual. Y el moderador …More
Hermanos tengan cuidado con las cuentas del moderador argentino germanpb = Dios te salve María vean aquí por ejemplo como MALICIOSAMENTE utilizó la cuenta ficticia Tamara Rodero para calumniar al fallecido Obispo Livieres en Paraguay luego eliminó su comentario, obispo al que la mafia Gay en venganza para silenciarlo quería acusar falsamente de encubrimiento de abuso sexual. Y el moderador utilizando la cuenta troll Tamara Rodero maliciosamente lo acusó falsamente de encubrimiento de abuso sexual.
Vean como estas dos cuentas Dios te salve María plevantateya se han confabulado para calumniar y silenciar al Obispo Carlo Maria Viganò. Vean como aparece también los comentarios de la cuenta del moderador mexicano Germen abajo.
Vean como estas dos cuentas Dios te salve María plevantateya se han confabulado para calumniar y silenciar al Obispo Carlo Maria Viganò. Vean como aparece también los comentarios de la cuenta del moderador mexicano Germen abajo.
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PADRE DIEGO dijo...
El gran protector de sodomitas (i.e. JB) tiene el descaro de mandar a sus amanuenses (Tornielli, Beltramo & Cia.) a difundir la especie que a Livieres se lo cargan por encubridor de maricones.
Al menos Tosatti tiene decencia dentro de la caterva del house organ de la secta bergogliana llamado Vatican Insider.
25 de septiembre de 2014, 18:21.
PADRE DIEGO dijo...
El gran protector de sodomitas (i.e. JB) tiene el descaro de mandar a sus amanuenses (Tornielli, Beltramo & Cia.) a difundir la especie que a Livieres se lo cargan por encubridor de maricones.
Al menos Tosatti tiene decencia dentro de la caterva del house organ de la secta bergogliana llamado Vatican Insider.
25 de septiembre de 2014, 18:21.
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Hi Galahad 
Much to think about. Pope Frances scandalizes me much. Much of His actions that you mentioned makes me ill. I am not sure what to say. I will just pray and hope his stay isn't long on the chair of Peter. I think its dangerous to say he isn't the Pope because if I were wrong than I would be in scisim! But I believe his actions are not the best. That is why I pray he leaves soon.
Much to think about. Pope Frances scandalizes me much. Much of His actions that you mentioned makes me ill. I am not sure what to say. I will just pray and hope his stay isn't long on the chair of Peter. I think its dangerous to say he isn't the Pope because if I were wrong than I would be in scisim! But I believe his actions are not the best. That is why I pray he leaves soon.
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Letter from Bishop Rogelio LIVIERES to the Prefect of the Congregation for Bishops
Thursday, September 25 2014 1:59 PM
Cardinal Marc Ouellet
Prefect of the Congregation for Bishops
Palazzo della Congregazioni,
Piazza Pio XII, 10,
00193 Rome, Italy
September 25 2014
Eminence:
Thank you for the warmth with which I received on Monday 22 and Tuesday 23 of this month at the Congregation presiding. …More
Letter from Bishop Rogelio LIVIERES to the Prefect of the Congregation for Bishops
Thursday, September 25 2014 1:59 PM
Cardinal Marc Ouellet
Prefect of the Congregation for Bishops
Palazzo della Congregazioni,
Piazza Pio XII, 10,
00193 Rome, Italy
September 25 2014
Eminence:
Thank you for the warmth with which I received on Monday 22 and Tuesday 23 of this month at the Congregation presiding. Similarly, communication by telephone that has made me a few moments ago the Pope's decision to declare the Diocese of Ciudad del Este vacant and appoint Mons. Ricardo Valenzuela as Apostolic Administrator.
I have understood that the Nuncio, almost simultaneously with the announcement that His Eminence has just given me, has made a press conference in Paraguay and now goes to the Diocese to take immediate control of it. The public announcement by the Nuncio before I be notified in writing of the decree is an irregularity more on this anomalous process. Fulminant Diocese intervention may perhaps be due to the fear that most of the faithful people react negatively to the decision taken, and who have openly indicated their support for me and for the Apostolic Visitation management. In this respect I remember the parting words of Cardinal Santos and April: "I hope to receive the decisions of Rome with the same openness and docility with which I have received of me." Was indicating the course of action was decided before the final reports and review of the Holy Father? In any case, we need not fear any rebellion. The faithful have been trained in the discipline of the Church and know how to obey the legitimate authorities.
The conversations we had and apparently because I have not seen the official documents given to justify such a serious decision tension in the ecclesial communion between the bishops of Paraguay and me and Diocese: 'We are not in communion "Nuncio had declared in his lecture.
For my part, I think I have shown that destituyentes attacks and maneuvers which have already been initiated since my appointment as bishop, before he could even set foot in the Diocese -there correspondence of the time between the bishops of Paraguay with the Department that His Eminence presided as irrefutable proof. My case was not the only one in which an Episcopal Conference has consistently opposed an appointment made by the Pope against his opinion. I had the grace to which, in my case, Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI support me to keep going. I understand now that the Pope Francisco has decided to withdraw that support.
I just want to emphasize that at no point did not receive a written report on the Apostolic Visitation and therefore I could not properly respond to it. Despite much talk about dialogue, compassion, openness, decentralization and respect for the authority of the local Churches, I have not had a chance to speak with the Pope Francisco, even to clarify any questions or concerns. Consequently, I could not receive any paternal, or fraternal correction, as prefer-from you. Non useless complaints, just proceed without formalities indefinitely and suddenly does not seem very fair, and leads to self-defense, or the appropriate correction of any errors. I only received oral pressure to resign.
My opponents and local media recently have been reporting in the media, not what happened but what was about to happen, even in the smallest details, is certainly another indicator that some senior officials in the Vatican the Apostolic Nuncio in the country and some bishops were maneuvering in an orchestrated and giving irresponsible to "guide" the course of action and public opinion leaks.
As obedient son of the Church, I agree, however, that decision even though I consider unfounded and arbitrary and that the Pope will give an account to God and not to me. Beyond the many human errors made and why and ask forgiveness from God and those who have suffered for it, I say again to anyone who will listen that the substance of the case has been an ideological opposition and persecution.
The true Church unity is what is built from the Eucharist and respect, observance and obedience to the faith of the Church taught by the Magisterium normatively articulated in church discipline and lived in the liturgy. Now, however, it seeks to impose a unity based not on divine law, but human agreements and maintaining the status quo. In Paraguay, particularly on the poor training of a single National Seminar -deficiencias identified not by me, but authoritatively by the Congregation for Catholic Education in a letter to the Bishops of 2008 In contrast, without criticizing what others did Bishops although there is plenty of material, I focused on establishing a diocesan seminary under the rules of the Church. I also did not just because I have the duty and right under the general laws of the Church, but with the specific approval of the Holy See, unequivocally ratified during the last visit ad limina 2008.
Our diocesan seminary has given excellent results recognized by recent laudatory letters of the Holy See on at least three occasions during the previous pontificate, by the Bishops who have visited us and, ultimately, by the Apostolic Visitors. Any suggestions made by the Holy See concerning improvements on how to carry out the seminar have been faithfully fulfilled.
The other criterion is the uncritical ecclesiastical unity coexistence between us based on uniformity of thought and action, which excludes dissent in defense of truth and legitimate variety of gifts and charisms. To this ideological uniformity is imposed by the euphemism of "collegiality."
He who suffers the ultimate consequences of what I describe is the faithful, since the particular Churches remain dormant, with great exodus to other denominations, almost priestly or religious vocations, and with little hope of a real dynamism and lasting growth.
The real problem of the Church in Paraguay is the crisis of faith and moral life that poor training of the clergy has been perpetuated, along with the negligence of the pastors. Lugo is but a sign of the times this problem reducing the life of faith and fashionable ideologies accomplice relaxation of the life and discipline of the clergy. As I said, I have not been since I released the report of Cardinal Santos and April on the Apostolic Visitation. But if it was his opinion that the problem of the Church in Paraguay sacristy is a problem that is resolved by changing the sexton, I would be deeply and trágimente wrong.
The opposition to any renewal and change in the Church in Paraguay has benefited not only bishops but also with the support of political groups and anti-Catholic associations, and support from some religious of the Conference of Religious of Paraguay-those know the religious life crisis globally will not be surprised latter. The spokesman liar and repeatedly paid for such maneuvers has always been a certain Javier Miranda. All this was done with the intention of showing "divison" within the same diocesan Church. Although the truth is demonstrated and proven wide acceptance among the laity of the work we were doing.
Just like me, before accepting my appointment as Bishop, believed strongly in the obligation to express my feeling of inadequacy at such responsibility, having accepted this charge with the full weight of divine authority and the rights and duties attending me, I have kept the grave moral responsibility to obey God rather than men. So I refused to give up on their own initiative and wanting to witness to the end of truth and spiritual freedom that a pastor should have. Task from now I hope to continue my new situation in the Church.
The Diocese of Ciudad del Este is a case in point that has grown and multiplied fruit in all aspects of church life, for happiness of faithful and devoted people who seek the sources of faith and spiritual life, not ideologies politicized and watered down beliefs that fit the prevailing opinions. These people openly and publicly expressed his support for the apostolic work we have been doing. The people and I have been ignored.
Yours faithfully in Christ,
+ Rogelio Livieres
Former Bishop of Ciudad del Este (Paraguay)
/google translation from Spanish/
Thursday, September 25 2014 1:59 PM
Cardinal Marc Ouellet
Prefect of the Congregation for Bishops
Palazzo della Congregazioni,
Piazza Pio XII, 10,
00193 Rome, Italy
September 25 2014
Eminence:
Thank you for the warmth with which I received on Monday 22 and Tuesday 23 of this month at the Congregation presiding. Similarly, communication by telephone that has made me a few moments ago the Pope's decision to declare the Diocese of Ciudad del Este vacant and appoint Mons. Ricardo Valenzuela as Apostolic Administrator.
I have understood that the Nuncio, almost simultaneously with the announcement that His Eminence has just given me, has made a press conference in Paraguay and now goes to the Diocese to take immediate control of it. The public announcement by the Nuncio before I be notified in writing of the decree is an irregularity more on this anomalous process. Fulminant Diocese intervention may perhaps be due to the fear that most of the faithful people react negatively to the decision taken, and who have openly indicated their support for me and for the Apostolic Visitation management. In this respect I remember the parting words of Cardinal Santos and April: "I hope to receive the decisions of Rome with the same openness and docility with which I have received of me." Was indicating the course of action was decided before the final reports and review of the Holy Father? In any case, we need not fear any rebellion. The faithful have been trained in the discipline of the Church and know how to obey the legitimate authorities.
The conversations we had and apparently because I have not seen the official documents given to justify such a serious decision tension in the ecclesial communion between the bishops of Paraguay and me and Diocese: 'We are not in communion "Nuncio had declared in his lecture.
For my part, I think I have shown that destituyentes attacks and maneuvers which have already been initiated since my appointment as bishop, before he could even set foot in the Diocese -there correspondence of the time between the bishops of Paraguay with the Department that His Eminence presided as irrefutable proof. My case was not the only one in which an Episcopal Conference has consistently opposed an appointment made by the Pope against his opinion. I had the grace to which, in my case, Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI support me to keep going. I understand now that the Pope Francisco has decided to withdraw that support.
I just want to emphasize that at no point did not receive a written report on the Apostolic Visitation and therefore I could not properly respond to it. Despite much talk about dialogue, compassion, openness, decentralization and respect for the authority of the local Churches, I have not had a chance to speak with the Pope Francisco, even to clarify any questions or concerns. Consequently, I could not receive any paternal, or fraternal correction, as prefer-from you. Non useless complaints, just proceed without formalities indefinitely and suddenly does not seem very fair, and leads to self-defense, or the appropriate correction of any errors. I only received oral pressure to resign.
My opponents and local media recently have been reporting in the media, not what happened but what was about to happen, even in the smallest details, is certainly another indicator that some senior officials in the Vatican the Apostolic Nuncio in the country and some bishops were maneuvering in an orchestrated and giving irresponsible to "guide" the course of action and public opinion leaks.
As obedient son of the Church, I agree, however, that decision even though I consider unfounded and arbitrary and that the Pope will give an account to God and not to me. Beyond the many human errors made and why and ask forgiveness from God and those who have suffered for it, I say again to anyone who will listen that the substance of the case has been an ideological opposition and persecution.
The true Church unity is what is built from the Eucharist and respect, observance and obedience to the faith of the Church taught by the Magisterium normatively articulated in church discipline and lived in the liturgy. Now, however, it seeks to impose a unity based not on divine law, but human agreements and maintaining the status quo. In Paraguay, particularly on the poor training of a single National Seminar -deficiencias identified not by me, but authoritatively by the Congregation for Catholic Education in a letter to the Bishops of 2008 In contrast, without criticizing what others did Bishops although there is plenty of material, I focused on establishing a diocesan seminary under the rules of the Church. I also did not just because I have the duty and right under the general laws of the Church, but with the specific approval of the Holy See, unequivocally ratified during the last visit ad limina 2008.
Our diocesan seminary has given excellent results recognized by recent laudatory letters of the Holy See on at least three occasions during the previous pontificate, by the Bishops who have visited us and, ultimately, by the Apostolic Visitors. Any suggestions made by the Holy See concerning improvements on how to carry out the seminar have been faithfully fulfilled.
The other criterion is the uncritical ecclesiastical unity coexistence between us based on uniformity of thought and action, which excludes dissent in defense of truth and legitimate variety of gifts and charisms. To this ideological uniformity is imposed by the euphemism of "collegiality."
He who suffers the ultimate consequences of what I describe is the faithful, since the particular Churches remain dormant, with great exodus to other denominations, almost priestly or religious vocations, and with little hope of a real dynamism and lasting growth.
The real problem of the Church in Paraguay is the crisis of faith and moral life that poor training of the clergy has been perpetuated, along with the negligence of the pastors. Lugo is but a sign of the times this problem reducing the life of faith and fashionable ideologies accomplice relaxation of the life and discipline of the clergy. As I said, I have not been since I released the report of Cardinal Santos and April on the Apostolic Visitation. But if it was his opinion that the problem of the Church in Paraguay sacristy is a problem that is resolved by changing the sexton, I would be deeply and trágimente wrong.
The opposition to any renewal and change in the Church in Paraguay has benefited not only bishops but also with the support of political groups and anti-Catholic associations, and support from some religious of the Conference of Religious of Paraguay-those know the religious life crisis globally will not be surprised latter. The spokesman liar and repeatedly paid for such maneuvers has always been a certain Javier Miranda. All this was done with the intention of showing "divison" within the same diocesan Church. Although the truth is demonstrated and proven wide acceptance among the laity of the work we were doing.
Just like me, before accepting my appointment as Bishop, believed strongly in the obligation to express my feeling of inadequacy at such responsibility, having accepted this charge with the full weight of divine authority and the rights and duties attending me, I have kept the grave moral responsibility to obey God rather than men. So I refused to give up on their own initiative and wanting to witness to the end of truth and spiritual freedom that a pastor should have. Task from now I hope to continue my new situation in the Church.
The Diocese of Ciudad del Este is a case in point that has grown and multiplied fruit in all aspects of church life, for happiness of faithful and devoted people who seek the sources of faith and spiritual life, not ideologies politicized and watered down beliefs that fit the prevailing opinions. These people openly and publicly expressed his support for the apostolic work we have been doing. The people and I have been ignored.
Yours faithfully in Christ,
+ Rogelio Livieres
Former Bishop of Ciudad del Este (Paraguay)
/google translation from Spanish/
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Carta de Mons. Rogelio LIVIERES al Prefecto de la Congregación para los Obispos
Jueves, 25 de Septiembre de 2014 13:59
Cardenal Marc Ouellet
Prefecto de la Congregación para los Obispos
Palazzo della Congregazioni,
Piazza Pio XII, 10,
00193 Roma, Italia
25 de septiembre de 2014
Eminencia Reverendísima:
Le agradezco la cordialidad con que me recibió el lunes 22 y el martes 23 de este mes en el …More
Carta de Mons. Rogelio LIVIERES al Prefecto de la Congregación para los Obispos
Jueves, 25 de Septiembre de 2014 13:59
Cardenal Marc Ouellet
Prefecto de la Congregación para los Obispos
Palazzo della Congregazioni,
Piazza Pio XII, 10,
00193 Roma, Italia
25 de septiembre de 2014
Eminencia Reverendísima:
Le agradezco la cordialidad con que me recibió el lunes 22 y el martes 23 de este mes en el Dicasterio que preside. Igualmente, la comunicación por teléfono que me ha hecho hace unos momentos de la decisión del Papa de declarar a la Diócesis de Ciudad del Este sede vacante y de nombrar a Mons. Ricardo Valenzuela como Administrador Apostólico.
Tengo entendido que el Nuncio, prácticamente en simultáneo con el anuncio que Su Eminencia me acaba de dar, ha realizado una conferencia de prensa en el Paraguay y ya se dirige hacia la Diócesis para tomar control inmediato de la misma. El anuncio público por parte del Nuncio antes de que yo sea notificado por escrito del decreto es una irregularidad más en este anómalo proceso. La intervención fulminante de la Diócesis puede quizás deberse al temor de que la mayoría del pueblo fiel reaccione negativamente ante la decisión tomada, ya que han manifiestado abiertamente su apoyo a mi persona y gestión durante la Visita Apostólica. En este sentido recuerdo las palabras de despedida del Cardenal Santos y Abril: «espero que reciban las decisiones de Roma con la misma apertura y docilidad con que me han recibido a mí». ¿Estaba indicando que el curso de acción estaba ya decidido antes de los informes finales y el examen del Santo Padre? En cualquier caso, no hay que temer rebeldía alguna. Los fieles han sido formados en la disciplina de la Iglesia y saben obedecer a las autoridades legítimas.
Las conversaciones que hemos mantenido y, aparentemente ya que no los he visto, los documentos oficiales, dan por justificación para tan grave decisión la tensión en la comunión eclesial entre los Obispos del Paraguay y mi persona y Diócesis: «no estamos en comunión», habría declarado el Nuncio en su conferencia.
Por mi parte, creo haber demostrado que los ataques y maniobras destituyentes de la que he sido objeto se iniciaron ya desde mi nombramiento como Obispo, antes incluso de que pudiera poner un pie en la Diócesis –hay correspondencia de la época entre los Obispos del Paraguay con el Dicasterio que Su Eminencia preside como prueba fehaciente de ello. Mi caso no ha sido el único en el que una Conferencia Episcopal se ha opuesto sistemáticamente a un nombramiento hecho por el Papa contra su parecer. Yo tuve la gracia de que, en mi caso, los Papas san Juan Pablo II y Benedicto XVI me apoyaran para seguir adelante. Entiendo ahora que el Papa Francisco haya decidido retirarme ese apoyo.
Sólo quiero destacar que no recibí en ningún momento un informe escrito sobre la Visita Apostólica y, por consiguiente, tampoco he podido responder debidamente a él. A pesar de tanto discurso sobre diálogo, misericordia, apertura, descentralización y respeto por la autoridad de las Iglesias locales, tampoco he tenido oportunidad de hablar con el Papa Francisco, ni siquiera para aclararle alguna duda o preocupación. Consecuentemente, no pude recibir ninguna corrección paternal –o fraternal, como se prefiera– de su parte. Sin ánimo de quejas inútiles, tal proceder sin formalidades, de manera indefinida y súbita, no parece muy justa, ni da lugar a una legítima defensa, ni a la corrección adecuada de posibles errores. Sólo he recibido presiones orales para renunciar.
Que mis opositores y la prensa local hayan recientemente estado informando en los medios, no de lo que había pasado, sino de lo que iba a suceder, incluso en los más mínimos detalles, es sin duda otro indicador de que algunas altas autoridades en el Vaticano, el Nuncio Apostólico y algunos Obispos del país estaban maniobrando de forma orquestada y dando filtraciones irresponsables para «orientar» el curso de acción y la opinión pública.
Como hijo obediente de la Iglesia, acepto, sin embargo, esta decisión por más que la considero infundada y arbitraria y de la que el Papa tendrá que dar cuentas a Dios, ya que no a mí. Más allá de los muchos errores humanos que haya cometido, y por los cuales desde ya pido perdón a Dios y a quienes hayan sufrido por ello, afirmo una vez más ante quien quiera escucharlo que la substancia del caso ha sido una oposición y persecución ideológica.
La verdadera unidad eclesial es la que se edifica a partir de la Eucaristía y el respeto, observancia y obediencia a la fe de la Iglesia enseñada normativamente por el Magisterio, articulada en la disciplina eclesial y vivida en la liturgia. Ahora, empero, se busca imponer una unidad basada, no sobre la ley divina, sino sobre acuerdos humanos y el mantenimiento del statu quo. En el Paraguay, concretamente, sobre la deficiente formación de un único Seminario Nacional –deficiencias señaladas no por mí, sino autoritativamente por la Congregación para la Educación Católica en carta a los Obispos de 2008. En contraposición, y sin criticar lo que hacían otros Obispos, aunque hay materia de sobra, yo me aboqué a establecer un Seminario diocesano según las normas de la Iglesia. Lo hice, además, no sólo porque tengo el deber y el derecho, reconocido por las leyes generales de la Iglesia, sino con la aprobación específica de la Santa Sede, inequívocamente ratificada durante la última visita ad limina de 2008.
Nuestro Seminario diocesano ha dado excelentes frutos reconocidos por recientes cartas laudatorias de la Santa Sede en al menos tres oportunidades durante el pontificado anterior, por los Obispos que nos han visitado y, últimamente, por los Visitadores Apostólicos. Toda sugerencia hecha por la Santa Sede en relación a mejoras sobre el modo de llevar adelante el Seminario, se han cumplido fielmente.
El otro criterio de unidad eclesiástica es la convivencia acrítica entre nosotros basada en la uniformidad de acción y pensamiento, lo que excluye el disentimiento por defensa de la verdad y la legítima variedad de dones y carismas. A esta uniformidad ideológica se la impone con el eufemismo de «colegialidad».
El que sufre las últimas consecuencias de lo que describo es el pueblo fiel, ya que las Iglesias particulares se mantienen en estado de letargo, con gran éxodo a otras denominaciones, casi sin vocaciones sacerdotales o religiosas, y con pocas esperanzas de un dinamismo auténtico y un crecimiento perdurable.
El verdadero problema de la Iglesia en el Paraguay es la crisis de fe y de vida moral que una mala formación del clero ha ido perpetuando, junto con la negligencia de los Pastores. Lugo no es sino un signo de los tiempos de esta problemática reducción de la vida de la fe a las ideologías de moda y al relajamiento cómplice de la vida y disciplina del clero. Como ya he dicho, no me ha sido dado conocer el informe del Cardenal Santos y Abril sobre la Visita Apostólica. Pero si fuera su opinión que el problema de la Iglesia en el Paraguay es un problema de sacristía que se resuelve cambiando al sacristán, estaría profunda y trágimente equivocado.
La oposicion a toda renovación y cambio en la Iglesia en el Paraguay no sólo ha contado con Obispos, sino también con el apoyo de grupos políticos y asociaciones anti-católicas, además del apoyo de algunos religiosos de la Conferencia de Religiosos del Paraguay –los que conocen la crisis de la vida religiosa a nivel mundial no se sorprenderán de esto último. El vocero pagado y reiteradamente mentiroso para tales maniobras ha sido siempre un tal Javier Miranda. Todo esto se hizo con la pretensión de mostrar «divisón» dentro de la misma Iglesia diocesana. Aunque la verdad demostrada y probada es la amplia aceptación entre el laicado de la labor que veníamos haciendo.
Del mismo modo que, antes de aceptar mi nombramiento como Obispo, me creí en la obligación de expresar vivamente mi sentimiento de incapacidad ante tamaña responsabilidad, después de haber aceptado dicha carga, con todo el peso de la autoridad divina y de los derechos y deberes que me asisten, he mantenido la gravísima responsabilidad moral de obedecer a Dios antes que a los hombres. Por eso me he negado a renunciar por propia iniciativa, queriendo así dar testimonio hasta el final de la verdad y la libertad espiritual que un Pastor debe tener. Tarea que espero continuar ahora desde mi nueva situación de servicio en la Iglesia.
La Diócesis de Ciudad del Este es un caso a considerar que ha crecido y multiplicado sus frutos en todos los aspectos de la vida eclesial, para felicidad del pueblo fiel y devoto que busca las fuentes de la fe y de la vida espiritual, y no ideologías politizadas y diluídas creencias que se acomodan a las opiniones reinantes. Ese pueblo expresó abierta y públicamente su apoyo a la labor apostólica que hemos venido haciendo. El pueblo y yo hemos sido desoídos.
Suyo afectísimo en Cristo,
+ Rogelio Livieres
Ex obispo de Ciudad del Este (Paraguay)
Jueves, 25 de Septiembre de 2014 13:59
Cardenal Marc Ouellet
Prefecto de la Congregación para los Obispos
Palazzo della Congregazioni,
Piazza Pio XII, 10,
00193 Roma, Italia
25 de septiembre de 2014
Eminencia Reverendísima:
Le agradezco la cordialidad con que me recibió el lunes 22 y el martes 23 de este mes en el Dicasterio que preside. Igualmente, la comunicación por teléfono que me ha hecho hace unos momentos de la decisión del Papa de declarar a la Diócesis de Ciudad del Este sede vacante y de nombrar a Mons. Ricardo Valenzuela como Administrador Apostólico.
Tengo entendido que el Nuncio, prácticamente en simultáneo con el anuncio que Su Eminencia me acaba de dar, ha realizado una conferencia de prensa en el Paraguay y ya se dirige hacia la Diócesis para tomar control inmediato de la misma. El anuncio público por parte del Nuncio antes de que yo sea notificado por escrito del decreto es una irregularidad más en este anómalo proceso. La intervención fulminante de la Diócesis puede quizás deberse al temor de que la mayoría del pueblo fiel reaccione negativamente ante la decisión tomada, ya que han manifiestado abiertamente su apoyo a mi persona y gestión durante la Visita Apostólica. En este sentido recuerdo las palabras de despedida del Cardenal Santos y Abril: «espero que reciban las decisiones de Roma con la misma apertura y docilidad con que me han recibido a mí». ¿Estaba indicando que el curso de acción estaba ya decidido antes de los informes finales y el examen del Santo Padre? En cualquier caso, no hay que temer rebeldía alguna. Los fieles han sido formados en la disciplina de la Iglesia y saben obedecer a las autoridades legítimas.
Las conversaciones que hemos mantenido y, aparentemente ya que no los he visto, los documentos oficiales, dan por justificación para tan grave decisión la tensión en la comunión eclesial entre los Obispos del Paraguay y mi persona y Diócesis: «no estamos en comunión», habría declarado el Nuncio en su conferencia.
Por mi parte, creo haber demostrado que los ataques y maniobras destituyentes de la que he sido objeto se iniciaron ya desde mi nombramiento como Obispo, antes incluso de que pudiera poner un pie en la Diócesis –hay correspondencia de la época entre los Obispos del Paraguay con el Dicasterio que Su Eminencia preside como prueba fehaciente de ello. Mi caso no ha sido el único en el que una Conferencia Episcopal se ha opuesto sistemáticamente a un nombramiento hecho por el Papa contra su parecer. Yo tuve la gracia de que, en mi caso, los Papas san Juan Pablo II y Benedicto XVI me apoyaran para seguir adelante. Entiendo ahora que el Papa Francisco haya decidido retirarme ese apoyo.
Sólo quiero destacar que no recibí en ningún momento un informe escrito sobre la Visita Apostólica y, por consiguiente, tampoco he podido responder debidamente a él. A pesar de tanto discurso sobre diálogo, misericordia, apertura, descentralización y respeto por la autoridad de las Iglesias locales, tampoco he tenido oportunidad de hablar con el Papa Francisco, ni siquiera para aclararle alguna duda o preocupación. Consecuentemente, no pude recibir ninguna corrección paternal –o fraternal, como se prefiera– de su parte. Sin ánimo de quejas inútiles, tal proceder sin formalidades, de manera indefinida y súbita, no parece muy justa, ni da lugar a una legítima defensa, ni a la corrección adecuada de posibles errores. Sólo he recibido presiones orales para renunciar.
Que mis opositores y la prensa local hayan recientemente estado informando en los medios, no de lo que había pasado, sino de lo que iba a suceder, incluso en los más mínimos detalles, es sin duda otro indicador de que algunas altas autoridades en el Vaticano, el Nuncio Apostólico y algunos Obispos del país estaban maniobrando de forma orquestada y dando filtraciones irresponsables para «orientar» el curso de acción y la opinión pública.
Como hijo obediente de la Iglesia, acepto, sin embargo, esta decisión por más que la considero infundada y arbitraria y de la que el Papa tendrá que dar cuentas a Dios, ya que no a mí. Más allá de los muchos errores humanos que haya cometido, y por los cuales desde ya pido perdón a Dios y a quienes hayan sufrido por ello, afirmo una vez más ante quien quiera escucharlo que la substancia del caso ha sido una oposición y persecución ideológica.
La verdadera unidad eclesial es la que se edifica a partir de la Eucaristía y el respeto, observancia y obediencia a la fe de la Iglesia enseñada normativamente por el Magisterio, articulada en la disciplina eclesial y vivida en la liturgia. Ahora, empero, se busca imponer una unidad basada, no sobre la ley divina, sino sobre acuerdos humanos y el mantenimiento del statu quo. En el Paraguay, concretamente, sobre la deficiente formación de un único Seminario Nacional –deficiencias señaladas no por mí, sino autoritativamente por la Congregación para la Educación Católica en carta a los Obispos de 2008. En contraposición, y sin criticar lo que hacían otros Obispos, aunque hay materia de sobra, yo me aboqué a establecer un Seminario diocesano según las normas de la Iglesia. Lo hice, además, no sólo porque tengo el deber y el derecho, reconocido por las leyes generales de la Iglesia, sino con la aprobación específica de la Santa Sede, inequívocamente ratificada durante la última visita ad limina de 2008.
Nuestro Seminario diocesano ha dado excelentes frutos reconocidos por recientes cartas laudatorias de la Santa Sede en al menos tres oportunidades durante el pontificado anterior, por los Obispos que nos han visitado y, últimamente, por los Visitadores Apostólicos. Toda sugerencia hecha por la Santa Sede en relación a mejoras sobre el modo de llevar adelante el Seminario, se han cumplido fielmente.
El otro criterio de unidad eclesiástica es la convivencia acrítica entre nosotros basada en la uniformidad de acción y pensamiento, lo que excluye el disentimiento por defensa de la verdad y la legítima variedad de dones y carismas. A esta uniformidad ideológica se la impone con el eufemismo de «colegialidad».
El que sufre las últimas consecuencias de lo que describo es el pueblo fiel, ya que las Iglesias particulares se mantienen en estado de letargo, con gran éxodo a otras denominaciones, casi sin vocaciones sacerdotales o religiosas, y con pocas esperanzas de un dinamismo auténtico y un crecimiento perdurable.
El verdadero problema de la Iglesia en el Paraguay es la crisis de fe y de vida moral que una mala formación del clero ha ido perpetuando, junto con la negligencia de los Pastores. Lugo no es sino un signo de los tiempos de esta problemática reducción de la vida de la fe a las ideologías de moda y al relajamiento cómplice de la vida y disciplina del clero. Como ya he dicho, no me ha sido dado conocer el informe del Cardenal Santos y Abril sobre la Visita Apostólica. Pero si fuera su opinión que el problema de la Iglesia en el Paraguay es un problema de sacristía que se resuelve cambiando al sacristán, estaría profunda y trágimente equivocado.
La oposicion a toda renovación y cambio en la Iglesia en el Paraguay no sólo ha contado con Obispos, sino también con el apoyo de grupos políticos y asociaciones anti-católicas, además del apoyo de algunos religiosos de la Conferencia de Religiosos del Paraguay –los que conocen la crisis de la vida religiosa a nivel mundial no se sorprenderán de esto último. El vocero pagado y reiteradamente mentiroso para tales maniobras ha sido siempre un tal Javier Miranda. Todo esto se hizo con la pretensión de mostrar «divisón» dentro de la misma Iglesia diocesana. Aunque la verdad demostrada y probada es la amplia aceptación entre el laicado de la labor que veníamos haciendo.
Del mismo modo que, antes de aceptar mi nombramiento como Obispo, me creí en la obligación de expresar vivamente mi sentimiento de incapacidad ante tamaña responsabilidad, después de haber aceptado dicha carga, con todo el peso de la autoridad divina y de los derechos y deberes que me asisten, he mantenido la gravísima responsabilidad moral de obedecer a Dios antes que a los hombres. Por eso me he negado a renunciar por propia iniciativa, queriendo así dar testimonio hasta el final de la verdad y la libertad espiritual que un Pastor debe tener. Tarea que espero continuar ahora desde mi nueva situación de servicio en la Iglesia.
La Diócesis de Ciudad del Este es un caso a considerar que ha crecido y multiplicado sus frutos en todos los aspectos de la vida eclesial, para felicidad del pueblo fiel y devoto que busca las fuentes de la fe y de la vida espiritual, y no ideologías politizadas y diluídas creencias que se acomodan a las opiniones reinantes. Ese pueblo expresó abierta y públicamente su apoyo a la labor apostólica que hemos venido haciendo. El pueblo y yo hemos sido desoídos.
Suyo afectísimo en Cristo,
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Nobody has blasphemed the church, we have said what is happening with this ULTRALIBERAL pope and to say wherever peter is also the church... well that only applies if Peter is NOT a wolve in other words an apostate, Peter wouldn't have kissed the feet of those who reject and openly blaspheme our Lord. 
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Nobody has blasphemed the church, we have said what is happening with this ULTRALIBERAL pope and to say wherever peter is also the church... well that only applies if Peter is NOT a wolve in other words an apostate, Peter wouldn't have kissed the feet of those who reject and openly blaspheme our Lord.
God bless Benedict XVI, the Catholic church and hope the next pope comes soon and rejects this ultraliberal nightmare.
And God bless you both Temp and Galahad
God bless Benedict XVI, the Catholic church and hope the next pope comes soon and rejects this ultraliberal nightmare.
And God bless you both Temp and Galahad
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"Benedict XVI is the Pope"
The above is obviously a false statement meant to discredit Pope Francis. Is there anyone among the administrators of gloria.tv who believes that the above comment adds to the reputation of the website or, in actuality, does this kind of comment discredit and embarrass this website and everyone who is associated with gloria.tv including both the management and members?
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"Benedict XVI is the Pope"
The above is obviously a false statement meant to discredit Pope Francis. Is there anyone among the administrators of gloria.tv who believes that the above comment adds to the reputation of the website or, in actuality, does this kind of comment discredit and embarrass this website and everyone who is associated with gloria.tv including both the management and members?
Furthermore, is the above comment the kind of inexcusable remark that would scandalize non-Catholics and fallen away Catholics? Is this remark the kind of remark that would cause clerics, lay religious and even non-believers who read it to think that your website is a home for schismatics and anti-Catholics?
The person making these remarks is clearly incorrigible and hardened who makes these types of comments each and every day using multiple IDs that she has created.
If any of what I have written is true, then why allow it to keep occurring? What good is there in permitting this and similar remarks to keep happening each and every day?
Her guilt and her need for reparation is increasing with each intemperate remark and, at the same time, the website is discredited by allowing such an individual to remain? So again, why allow it to continue?
Donna
The above is obviously a false statement meant to discredit Pope Francis. Is there anyone among the administrators of gloria.tv who believes that the above comment adds to the reputation of the website or, in actuality, does this kind of comment discredit and embarrass this website and everyone who is associated with gloria.tv including both the management and members?
Furthermore, is the above comment the kind of inexcusable remark that would scandalize non-Catholics and fallen away Catholics? Is this remark the kind of remark that would cause clerics, lay religious and even non-believers who read it to think that your website is a home for schismatics and anti-Catholics?
The person making these remarks is clearly incorrigible and hardened who makes these types of comments each and every day using multiple IDs that she has created.
If any of what I have written is true, then why allow it to keep occurring? What good is there in permitting this and similar remarks to keep happening each and every day?
Her guilt and her need for reparation is increasing with each intemperate remark and, at the same time, the website is discredited by allowing such an individual to remain? So again, why allow it to continue?
Donna
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Benedict XVI is the Pope
St. Cyprian (200-258)
"To adhere to a false Bishop of Rome is to be out of communion with the Church."More
Benedict XVI is the Pope
St. Cyprian (200-258)
"To adhere to a false Bishop of Rome is to be out of communion with the Church."
St. Cyprian (200-258)
"To adhere to a false Bishop of Rome is to be out of communion with the Church."
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"Now when the Pope is explicitly a heretic, he falls ipso facto from his dignity and out of the Church . . ."
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"Now when the Pope is explicitly a heretic, he falls ipso facto from his dignity and out of the Church . . ."
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St. Thomas Cajetan, O.P. (1469-1534)
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He points out that the famous axiom "Ubi Petrus, ibi Ecclesia" (Where the Pope is, there is also the Church) holds true only when the Pope acts and behaves as the Pope, because Peter "is subject to the duties of the Office" otherwise, "neither is the Church in him, nor is he in the Church."
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He points out that the famous axiom "Ubi Petrus, ibi Ecclesia" (Where the Pope is, there is also the Church) holds true only when the Pope acts and behaves as the Pope, because Peter "is subject to the duties of the Office" otherwise, "neither is the Church in him, nor is he in the Church."
St. Augustine says, “What doth it profit to confess the Lord, to honour God, to preach Him, to acknowledge His Son, and to confess that He sits on the right hand of the Father, if you blaspheme His Church?”
(Enarratio in Psal. lxxxviii., sermo ii., n. 14).
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St. Augustine says, “What doth it profit to confess the Lord, to honour God, to preach Him, to acknowledge His Son, and to confess that He sits on the right hand of the Father, if you blaspheme His Church?”
(Enarratio in Psal. lxxxviii., sermo ii., n. 14).
(Enarratio in Psal. lxxxviii., sermo ii., n. 14).
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Most Catholics are lemmings, they will blindly do what the majority of Catholics do.
Thank you for mentioning that. 
Do you know: The VII.concilar lemming
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@Temperance
Most Catholics are lemmings, they will blindly do what the majority of Catholics do.
Thank you for mentioning that.
Do you know: The VII.concilar lemming
Most Catholics are lemmings, they will blindly do what the majority of Catholics do.
Thank you for mentioning that.
Do you know: The VII.concilar lemming
This Pope hasn't been much of a pillar for conservative values. I wouldn't go as far to call him an apostate, but he hasn't done much except been a sort of Catholic dalai lama.
Hello Temperance,
I understand, what you want to say. It´s hard to belive, that a pope can force or even practice apostatic acts. But what can we do:
Pope Francis I.:
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This Pope hasn't been much of a pillar for conservative values. I wouldn't go as far to call him an apostate, but he hasn't done much except been a sort of Catholic dalai lama.
Hello Temperance,
I understand, what you want to say. It´s hard to belive, that a pope can force or even practice apostatic acts. But what can we do:
Pope Francis I.:
I. Kissed a muslim woman´s feet and washed them at Holy Thursday. That can be interpreted as signal that she is in the meening Francis in the APOSTOLIC SUGGSSEION. In the traditional faith only CATHOLIC PRIESTS get washed feed at Holy Thursday, reminding Lord Jesus Christ washing the feet of his 12 APOSTLES. Isn´t that an apostatic act and a logical consequence infront of the background of vaticanum II. and it´s wrong "additiv theology" (important name: Karl Rahner) - a drift away from true catholic faith?
II. Prayed together with modern jews and moslems in the garden of Vatican at Pentecoast "to the one god we adore with them". This overtops the first point to just the same or even greater blasphemie because:
II. At Pentecoast all people could understand the apostles in their OWN SPEECH (in the holy bible: National speech!). What intention follows Pope Francis I. by arranging this intereligious "prayer". Do all religions "mean the same", and "only say it in an other religious speech" in the oppinion of the actuall Pope? That is an apostatic act, because of reminding to the masonic haeresie or asian paganism, wrong occult and esoterical systems, etc..
III. Pope Francis I. told a bishop to burry the protestan Tony Palmer (who was told, not to convert to catholizisme by Pope Francis I. because of oecumenism), not only catholic (that would be wrong enough), but as a catholich bishop - with a bishops requiem. That´an apostatic act because it is PURE RELATIVISM. Even a "high-church"-Lutherian man wouldn´t agree with that. And what that NEVER can be, is true catholic faith.
What do you think?
Wishing you a blessed week,
Galahad
Hello Temperance,
I understand, what you want to say. It´s hard to belive, that a pope can force or even practice apostatic acts. But what can we do:
Pope Francis I.:
I. Kissed a muslim woman´s feet and washed them at Holy Thursday. That can be interpreted as signal that she is in the meening Francis in the APOSTOLIC SUGGSSEION. In the traditional faith only CATHOLIC PRIESTS get washed feed at Holy Thursday, reminding Lord Jesus Christ washing the feet of his 12 APOSTLES. Isn´t that an apostatic act and a logical consequence infront of the background of vaticanum II. and it´s wrong "additiv theology" (important name: Karl Rahner) - a drift away from true catholic faith?
II. Prayed together with modern jews and moslems in the garden of Vatican at Pentecoast "to the one god we adore with them". This overtops the first point to just the same or even greater blasphemie because:
II. At Pentecoast all people could understand the apostles in their OWN SPEECH (in the holy bible: National speech!). What intention follows Pope Francis I. by arranging this intereligious "prayer". Do all religions "mean the same", and "only say it in an other religious speech" in the oppinion of the actuall Pope? That is an apostatic act, because of reminding to the masonic haeresie or asian paganism, wrong occult and esoterical systems, etc..
III. Pope Francis I. told a bishop to burry the protestan Tony Palmer (who was told, not to convert to catholizisme by Pope Francis I. because of oecumenism), not only catholic (that would be wrong enough), but as a catholich bishop - with a bishops requiem. That´an apostatic act because it is PURE RELATIVISM. Even a "high-church"-Lutherian man wouldn´t agree with that. And what that NEVER can be, is true catholic faith.
What do you think?
Wishing you a blessed week,
Galahad
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Gregory isn't that a bit harsh!
I feel their pain! This Pope hasn't been much of a pillar for conservative values. I wouldn't go as far to call him an apostate, but he hasn't done much except been a sort of Catholic dalai lama. When the sodomites, liberals, the media, praise him you know something is wrong. Yet lets not condemn the Pope or are Catholic brethren. Time will tell use who really is in …More
Gregory isn't that a bit harsh!
I feel their pain! This Pope hasn't been much of a pillar for conservative values. I wouldn't go as far to call him an apostate, but he hasn't done much except been a sort of Catholic dalai lama. When the sodomites, liberals, the media, praise him you know something is wrong. Yet lets not condemn the Pope or are Catholic brethren. Time will tell use who really is in "servitude of the devil" by their fruits.
I feel their pain! This Pope hasn't been much of a pillar for conservative values. I wouldn't go as far to call him an apostate, but he hasn't done much except been a sort of Catholic dalai lama. When the sodomites, liberals, the media, praise him you know something is wrong. Yet lets not condemn the Pope or are Catholic brethren. Time will tell use who really is in "servitude of the devil" by their fruits.
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I don't understand why the link of this article was removed? Your moderators are removing many links of my news.
If you don't like it, you know what you can do. You and your contempt for the Catholic Church will not be missed.
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I don't understand why the link of this article was removed? Your moderators are removing many links of my news.
If you don't like it, you know what you can do. You and your contempt for the Catholic Church will not be missed.
If you don't like it, you know what you can do. You and your contempt for the Catholic Church will not be missed.
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Although I not happy at what the Pope has done since his election I agree with Donna that we all need to very careful in our constructive critiques not to descend to name calling and insults. This has happened on another well known blog site and the comment box is now off. We are all in need of changing our lives and Jesus told us not to judge others lest we be Judged. He also said that every idle …More
Although I not happy at what the Pope has done since his election I agree with Donna that we all need to very careful in our constructive critiques not to descend to name calling and insults. This has happened on another well known blog site and the comment box is now off. We are all in need of changing our lives and Jesus told us not to judge others lest we be Judged. He also said that every idle word we say will be used against us. Everything we may hear may not be true or taken out of Context but ignoring Gospel warnings against love of others even if we don't agree with them is what makes us different from non believers. The Church and the Pope need our prayers not condemnations and name calling judgments. This site is for Integral Catholics but remember this group were condemned by Pius XI in the 1920's. We are all poor sinners,