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Saint Called Vatican II “Time of Darkness”

Before the end of Vatican II, in February 1965, someone announced to Padre Pio that a eucharist would soon be presided according to a New Rite, ad experimentum, in the vernacular, a rite that had been composed by a liturgical commission to respond to the “inspirations of modern man.”

Padre Pio immediately wrote to Paul VI, even before he had seen the text, to ask him to be dispensed from this liturgical experiment and to be allowed to continue celebrating Mass.

When Cardinal Antonio Bacci (+1971) came to visit him to bring him the requested authorisation, Padre Pio let slip a lament: “For pity's sake, put a swift end to the Council.”

That same year, amid the Council euphoria that promised a “new springtime” for the Church, he confided to one of his spiritual sons: "In this time of darkness, let us pray. Let us do penance for the elect."

Source: ITreSentieri.it (September 22)

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aderito

i believe very much on the saint Padre Pio

Jeffrey Ade

Archbishop Lefebvre commented that Vatican 2 was tantamount to World War Three!

Dr Bobus

Didn't Abp sign every document from Vat II?

Jeffrey Ade

@Dr Bobus I have read he did sign most of the documents. I personally don't think the documents were as much a problem as the implementation of changes that happened after the council and in it's name. Many Catholics were told this is required by V2, and as gullible sheep they went along with the destruction of their churches. It was easier to see in hind sight that the implementations were the prize, not the documents.

Because Vatican II documents in and of themselves many were written so vague as to allow for wide and varied implementation......especially with regard to religious life, and the Liturgy. VAtucan II never called for Orders of nuns to discard the traditional habits. It called for the adaption of SOME habits which were no longer practical ( example, it was impossible for Daughters of Charity with their large starches cornets to drive a car, or likewise a few other Orders and congregations of sisters whose headpieces impaired vision either when driving or just walking. These were the adaptions requested (not ordered) by the Council. Nearly all religious Orders of sisters took wide license with these directives, and adapted themselves eventually out of existance due to radical liberal "reforms" which were despised from the beginning by potential aspirants, and even by members of the Orders who left en masse.
Same with liurcy....so many variations, adaptions, permissons, abuses, experimentaiions that it can truely be said that there is no more true "Catholic Mass", except where the Roman Rite is celebrated.
The Council documents many of which were written to give some wide room for freedomm of implementation, which has proved a disaster.
I hope the next Pope pays little attention to Vatican II and it's "reforms" but rather finally realizes the damage and wreckage it has caused.

Sancte Teotónio

The Vat II documents are not just ambiguous, they contain actual errors if not even heresies. They go against the teaching of previous popes in a unequivocal way. There are contradictions between 2 paragraphs in the same document.
See Fr Hesse talks where he highlights all that.

P. O'B

One saint wanted the Council ended as quickly as possible; two other saints (as the Church considers them) gave us the Council. So why listen to any saint? Contradictory opinions each have saints to claim.

Sancte Teotónio

@P. O'B "All the saints are equal, but some are more equal than others" - Maybe George Orwell

Malki Tzedek

It is becoming increasingly apparent that Novus Ordo is the mass of 'ad disorientem'. Dark days, indeed.

Koza Nutria

Many say that Padre Pio didn't celebrated the NO mass but he has definitely his last one,if any before I don't know.

salliperson

@koza Padre Pio never celebrated the Novus Ordo mass
Padre Pio: on Vatican II & New Mass

Koza Nutria

@salliperson very easy to find. Just search for it on yt.

Koza Nutria

Ok to be more precise. He did celebrated the mass versus populum with changed reading as NO wasn't live yet but was first sign of it.