Good point. There are those who think that the vision released in 2000 was found in the diaries that Sr.Lucia handed over to the Vatican - and not really part of the authentic 3rd Secret. The release of this vision was an attempt to placate all those clamoring for the 3rd Secret. We do know from the testimony of various people who either read the 3rd Secret or were present when it was read that the 3rd Secret deals with apostasy at the very top of the Church. The vision makes no reference to that fact. Suzanne Pearson, who has done a lot of research on Fatima, is one who thinks the vision itself may have been given to Sr. Lucia at another time and was contained in a diary - but was not part of the 3rd Secret. There is a video where she shares this in a talk with a group named Fatima Souls. Maybe someone has that link.

OK. This is an old video and Robert Sungenis has gone right off the rails on the Fatima issue since then. Check out his very recent YouTube videos. Also it says "We know from prophecy that when some major catastrophic event will strike IRAN that the Third World War is very near." What prophecy? Has it been approved?
Fr Gruner RIP (who I met and have great respect for, even if I didn't agree with every single word he said) said around 03:20 on the video that according to this alleged stigmatist Antonio Ruffini, Pope Benedict XVI would be the Pope of the Assassination. An unfulfilled Ruffini prophecy. Pope Benedict XVI wasn't assassinated. If anyone has any verifiable proof to the contrary, please post it.
Fr Kramer. Don't even go there, I mean I can't even go there. For me to speak out, I'm not sure what would be detraction, or a justified warning not to listen to that man. I will need to seek spiritual advice on this issue before commenting further.

@English Catholic I interpret Fr Gruner's statement differently. The panelists incorporate many different prophesies in their answers. Fr Gruner said "If Antonio Ruffini is correct" this implies in and of itself... then and consequently - now it is here that Fr Gruner incorporates his interpretation of Catholic prophesies from sources other than Ruffini @6:35 eg the vision of Pope Pius X, also the prophecy of Helen Wallraff, See Dupont - "Catholic Prophecy" p. 22, 78; Culleton - "The Prophets and Our Times" p. 31, 51, 180, 216; Birch - "Trial Tribulation & Triumph, Before During and After Antichrist"

1942:
Pius XII attempts to comply with Our Lady’s request for the Consecration.

October 31: Pope Pius XII, acting alone and on the basis of inaccurate information about what Our Lady requested, consecrates the world, but not Russia specifically, to the Immaculate Heart. The bishops do not participate.

December 8: Pius XII repeats the same ceremony, again without the participation of the bishops. Our Lord tells Sister Lucy that because of this World War II will be shortened, but that world peace will not result as Russia has not been consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary and consequently converted. World peace is reserved only to the proper Consecration of Russia.

1952:
Our Lady is Still Awaiting the Consecration; Pius XII tries again.

May: Our Lady appears to Sister Lucy saying: “Make it known to the Holy Father that I am always awaiting the Consecration of Russia to My Immaculate Heart. Without the Consecration, Russia will not be able to convert, nor will the world have peace.”

Source: The Fatima Timeline by The Fatima Center, 2015

Sorry, I misread your question @sam yeager wrote, "any proof from Lucy that Russia was never consecrated [CORRECTLY] pre-vatican ii Lucy"

July 7: Pope Pius XII consecrates Russia specifically in an apostolic letter called Sacro vergente anno, but only as a written exhortation. He does not ask for all the bishops to join him in keeping with Our Lady’s request for a public ceremony conducted by the Pope in union with all the Catholic bishops of the whole world.

Mike, I understand what Pius did. My question is about Lucy's belief. Sungenis believes he read the conversation between Our Lord and Lucy and how Heaven accepted the consecration.

Russia Has Been Consecrated - Sungenis Defends His Thesis

That's an interesting thought. And there are some who think that "it will be late" refers to anytime before 13 June 1929 as Russia has already spread her errors throughout the world (including the USA & the Vatican), Russia has caused wars and has persecuted the Church.

Our Lord complainingly said to me [Sr. Lucia of Fatima]: “They did not want to heed My request. Like the King of France they will repent and do so, but it will be late. Russia will already have spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The Holy Father will have much to suffer.” - Frère Michel de la Sainte Trinité, The Whole Truth About Fatima, Vol. II, p. 543-544, pdf p. 365, 366

"Sr. Lucia made it plain that Our Lady did not ask for the consecration of the world to Her Immaculate Heart. What She [Our Lady] demanded specifically was the consecration of Russia. Sr. Lucia stated more than once and with deliberate emphasis: ‘What Our Lady wants is that the Pope and all the bishops in the world shall consecrate Russia to Her Immaculate Heart on one special day. If this is done, She will convert Russia and there will be peace. If it is not done, the errors of Russia will spread through every country in the world’.”
Professor Walsh asked Sr. Lucia, "Does this mean, in your opinion, that every country [including the United States of America and the Vatican City State], without exception, will be overcome by Communism?"
Sr. Lucia replied, "Yes." [this was her precise answer] - William Thomas Walsh, Our Lady of Fatima, 4th printing, 1947, p. 226; See also Louis Kaczmarek, The Wonders She Performs, 1986, p. 160

Ukraine was a part of Russia in 1917 & didn't become independent until 1991. With Our Lady saying 'Russia' in 1917, it would have included what is now Ukraine. The underlying fact is there is no world peace, so no properly formatted consecration was ever done by a pope & in union with the bishops of the world. Pope Francis & the worlds bishops can help rectify this. Pray for their conversion. God can do ALL things, including fixing this pope & the worlds bishops.

I know my bishop hasn't said whether he will participate in the consecration, in union w/ the Pope as I asked the priest in the confessional on Saturday. He said they are waiting for guidance.