Cardinal Zen: Has the Church become like the Anglicans? Is the Church Committing Suicide?

On 19 November, Hong Kong Cardinal Joseph Zen, 93, wrote on his blog, OldYosef.HkCatholic.com, about the history and dangers of the Synod.

He recalls that Francis "regrettably" restructured this institution of bishops to include lay members. Thus, it became a hybrid "consultative assembly of the baptised", convened under the name of Synod.

However, Cardinal Zen is more concerned that the central leaders of the Synod clearly sought to advance significant reforms to Church doctrine and discipline.

He accuses the synod leaders of wasting meeting time with childish "conversations in the Spirit", and of avoiding formal discussion as much as possible. Meanwhile, a large group of facilitators, experts, secretaries and undersecretaries controlled the assembly.

Regarding the final document, Cardinal Zen notes that Francis endorsed it as his "papal teaching". Francis urged everyone to read, understand and implement it 'on a trial basis', with the outcomes of the entire experiment to be reviewed at a so-called Ecclesial Assembly in 2028.

Cardinal Zen comments: "Good heavens! A document open to diverse interpretations, to be 'tried out' according to each group's understanding — after three years of experimentation, will we even be able to turn back?"

And: "Has our Church not become like the Anglicans? Is this the Catholic Church committing suicide by assimilating with the world?"

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Faith Hope CharityDec 9

The ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, and APOSTOLIC CHURCH which JESUS CHRIST instituted has already declared many times throughout salvation history as in this time of the counterfeit church of ANTIPOPES bergoglio and prevost and regarding ANY and ALL others involved in Formal Heresy and Apostasy as they prove themselves to be have already excommunicated themselves as this is infallibly declared as follows-
Can. 1364— § 1. An apostate from the faith, a heretic or a schismatic incurs a latae sententiae [automatic] excommunication.
ANTIPOPES bergoglio and prevost and ALL their accomplices are NOT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. Their "synodal church" is a counterfeit church and they are usurpers, all of whom are enemies of JESUS CHRIST who are attempting to manipulate souls by their false doctrines, and they engage in seducing souls to follow themselves, to remain unrepentant in their mortal sins, etc., and to dismiss the TRUTHS revealed by JESUS CHRIST.
Never forget that they are also parasites feeding off the true Church while devouring the countless souls whom they attempt to continue to seduce and lead to follow their own father satan toward eternal damnation.

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Tisbe GalaadNov 22

Mathew 15:13
“Every plant which my heavenly Father didn’t plant will be uprooted".

Mike the PikeNov 22

The leadership of the Catholic Church on earth at this time is dominated by a network of active homosexuals and theological modernists.

Mike the PikeNov 22

The leadership is intentionally trying to destroy the Church and intentionally leading Catholics astray.

DrMariaNov 21edited

In his comments today, 11/21/25, at the 2025 National Catholic Youth Conference in the USA, Leo just invited the young people to let their voices be heard in shaping the church of tomorrow - everyone needs to be included in these "conversations of the spirit" - mentioned by Cardinal Zen. Also, in the final synod document for 2024, all the baptized, i.e., Protestants of any and all stripes, are now included in the term, "people of God," which means Protestant heresies are now included in the "sensus fidei."
In these "conversations of the spirit," everyone is welcome - everyone is an "oracle of truth" - it's modernism and gnosticism on steroids - it's not the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church will remain and be protected by Our Lord until His return - however, it will be found "underground" - back to the catacombs, in small remnant communities. This is now underway ----

Gast6Nov 21

Illusions from Cardinal Zen: “Francis committed many dangerous errors, leaving behind chaos & division. Now, the greatest hope lies in Leo XIV succeeding in uniting the Church on the basis of truth & dedicating himself to evangelization. We must offer our prayers & sacrifices.”

IrishpolNov 21

Cardinal Zen appears to be a good man, and much of what he says is orthodox. However, he is unwilling to concede that the Second Vatican Council is the source of the current problems in the Church. He fails to understand that all the post-Vatican II popes (including Pope Benedict XVI, who raised him to the rank of cardinal) will point to the 16 documents of the Council as the authority for their heterodoxical actions.

Mike the PikeNov 22

Living under a tyranny, I think Cardinal Zen has to watch what he says. The imperfect translation indicates that he considers VC II a problem:
Unfortunately, despite the efforts of popes after Vatican II to provide orthodox guidance, in fact the Church has not been able to interpret the meaning of a true ecumenical council through continuity and has a broad understanding and acceptance of it.
Some have suggested that the so-called "spirit of the Council" hijacked the entire process, and that "the smoke of Satan", as Pope Paul VI said, "enters through the cracks of the Church", or if Pope Benedict XVI As described: "Peter's ship is taking on water"

laurelmaryceciliaNov 21

actually, I think what you are saying the institutional Church is committing suicide and killing her. What is happening is that THE Church is going figuratively... and some places literally.... underground. The Church which is Militant, Suffering and Triumphant is existent, actual, genuine, literal.

Father Karl A ClaverNov 21

Yes, the Church has been committing suicide since before Vatican II, which just sped up the demolition process.

OrthocatNov 21

Exactly, the "auto-demolition & "smoke of Satan" that Paul VI himself even recognized. But did he do anything to stop it!!!

eva . .Nov 21

The traitors are killing her.

Denis EfimovNov 21

"Is this the Catholic Church committing suicide by assimilating with the world?".
No, only the synodal church. The Catholic Church will endure to the end.

Malki TzedekNov 21

I am certain Cardinal Zen would concur. Having lived under Communist oppression, and seen an ideologically and synodally driven 'Catholic Church' inert in its response, he is likely referring to this ideological entity which, for now, has muzzled the true Faith, only to create the forum for its own demise. The Catholic Church and the phoenix have been symbolically allied for a reason. The true Faith will rise from the synodal ashes; the Temple will be rebuilt.