Ultraviolet
"the rank hypocrisy of the clergy after they arrest two mothers..." -Ave Crux Fact Check: the clergy didn't arrest anyone. :P
Ave Crux
Taylor Marshall does a sequel on this interview concerning the rank hypocrisy of the clergy after they arrest two mothers praying at church, while the likes of Theordore McCarrick and his ilk get cover for their decades of perversion:

youtube.com/watch?v=gRnfko0f_Cc

The words of the prophet Jeremiah certainly apply to these our times and these our "shepherds":

"Woe to the pastors, that destr…More
Taylor Marshall does a sequel on this interview concerning the rank hypocrisy of the clergy after they arrest two mothers praying at church, while the likes of Theordore McCarrick and his ilk get cover for their decades of perversion:

youtube.com/watch?v=gRnfko0f_Cc

The words of the prophet Jeremiah certainly apply to these our times and these our "shepherds":

"Woe to the pastors, that destroy and tear the sheep of my pasture, saith the Lord. Therefore thus saith the Lord the God of Israel to the pastors that feed my people: You have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold I will visit upon you for the evil of your doings, saith the Lord.

For the prophet and the priest are defiled: and in my house I have found their wickedness, saith the Lord.

Therefore their way shall be as a slippery way in the dark: for they shall be driven on, and fall therein: for I will bring evils upon them, the year of their visitation, saith the Lord.

...

And I have seen the likeness of adulterers, and the way of lying in the prophets of Jerusalem: and they strengthened the hand of the wicked, that no man should return from his evil doings: that are all become unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gamorrha.

Therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts to the prophets: Behold I will feed them with wormwood, and I will give them gall to drink: for from the prophets of Jerusalem corruption has gone forth into all the land...."
Ultraviolet
"Now even the secular press is expressing horror..." LOL... using the secular press to justify a woman endangering her unborn child and infant. Attaboy, @Ave Crux

Protip: citing the popular opinion of "the secular press" is a fallacious appeal to authority. Is the "secular press" right when they're "expressing horror" at the pro-life movement? Or at people who don't embrace homosexuality…More
"Now even the secular press is expressing horror..." LOL... using the secular press to justify a woman endangering her unborn child and infant. Attaboy, @Ave Crux

Protip: citing the popular opinion of "the secular press" is a fallacious appeal to authority. Is the "secular press" right when they're "expressing horror" at the pro-life movement? Or at people who don't embrace homosexuality? Well? ;-)

"Indeed, it would be entirely unnatural for anyone not to be horrified by..." "Only an unfeeling soul would..." Indeed, those are No True Scottsman Fallacies. She deliberately put her children at risk tryng to bluff the police. Now there is an "unfeeling soul". Doesn't say much about you since you're defending the woman.
Ultraviolet
Actually she put both her children at risk, during and after the incident. She provoked the police into arresting her while she's pregant -and- holding her infant. That's "during. " The "after" might end up being worse. Now the police and the courts are involved with her family The so-called "Child Protective Services" are always looking for new families that need "intervention" and "counsell…More
Actually she put both her children at risk, during and after the incident. She provoked the police into arresting her while she's pregant -and- holding her infant. That's "during. " The "after" might end up being worse. Now the police and the courts are involved with her family The so-called "Child Protective Services" are always looking for new families that need "intervention" and "counselling" and maybe even "foster care". Then we'll see even moar "look what happened to us, we need money, please donate" posts on GTV
Ave Crux
Now even the secular press is expressing horror at how this Catholic mother was treated.

Indeed, it would be entirely unnatural for anyone not to be horrified by expelling a woman and her children from church in the middle of a Mass taking place. Only an unfeeling soul would not find this egregious and massively abusive:

thegatewaypundit.com/…ed-holy-mass-not-wearing-mask-ratted-pastor-vide…More
Now even the secular press is expressing horror at how this Catholic mother was treated.

Indeed, it would be entirely unnatural for anyone not to be horrified by expelling a woman and her children from church in the middle of a Mass taking place. Only an unfeeling soul would not find this egregious and massively abusive:

thegatewaypundit.com/…ed-holy-mass-not-wearing-mask-ratted-pastor-video/
Ave Crux
THE INCOMPARABLE FATHER ALTMAN speaks on the complicity of the clergy in the "godless restrictions" imposed on the Faithful -- some doing so even after government officials had granted greater leniency, such as the Governor of TX did in lifting the mask mandate while the Priest arrested a mother for not wearing one anyway (fittingly I just came upon this video sermon from his Palm Sunday …More
THE INCOMPARABLE FATHER ALTMAN speaks on the complicity of the clergy in the "godless restrictions" imposed on the Faithful -- some doing so even after government officials had granted greater leniency, such as the Governor of TX did in lifting the mask mandate while the Priest arrested a mother for not wearing one anyway (fittingly I just came upon this video sermon from his Palm Sunday Mass -- Father comments with righteous indignation upon what this priest did to the mother referred to in this post) youtube.com/watch?v=h_p71021FdE
Ultraviolet
"THE INCOMPARABLE FATHER ALTMAN speaks on the complicity of the clergy..." --so did THE INCOMPARABLE UV over ten hours ago. . ;-) Official Statement from Bishop Burns in Dallas, TX. "We also expect the Catholic faithful in the Diocese of Dallas to continue to wear masks out of charity and concern for all those around them."

Bishop Burns outranks Fr. Altman and the Texas governor on Church …More
"THE INCOMPARABLE FATHER ALTMAN speaks on the complicity of the clergy..." --so did THE INCOMPARABLE UV over ten hours ago. . ;-) Official Statement from Bishop Burns in Dallas, TX. "We also expect the Catholic faithful in the Diocese of Dallas to continue to wear masks out of charity and concern for all those around them."

Bishop Burns outranks Fr. Altman and the Texas governor on Church matters. What I said ten hours ago, still holds true... "Ultimately, part of being 'the Catholic faithful' is recognizing the chain of command. It's been a source of unity and strength for millenia. One has only to look at the many hundreds of other Christian denominations/ sub-groups to see how 'I'm right because I prayed on it and God tole me I'm right' works out."
Ave Crux
NOW ULTRAVIOLET SLINGS HATE AT THE COURAGEOUS FATHER ALTMAN. I suggest you find something better to do with your life than attack the courageous Catholics (priests, mothers and laymen alike) who are finally standing up to the lies, complicity and dereliction of duty of the Catholic hierarchy in this country. Father Altman is a heroic priest and we need thousands more like him.
Ultraviolet
You just got caught in another lie, @Ave Crux . :D You "don't read" my comments, remember? So how could you decide my comments were "hate" unless you read them? You're either a liar when you say you "don't read" my comments or you're a liar because you criticized me for a comment you didn't read. Either way, you lied. Gotcha! Time to go back and change what you said again!

I wasn't …More
You just got caught in another lie, @Ave Crux . :D You "don't read" my comments, remember? So how could you decide my comments were "hate" unless you read them? You're either a liar when you say you "don't read" my comments or you're a liar because you criticized me for a comment you didn't read. Either way, you lied. Gotcha! Time to go back and change what you said again!

I wasn't even poking fun at "the courageous Father Altman." I was poking fun at you because you keep introducing irrelevant comments by well-known priests to back up your failed arguments. Last time it was Fr. Ripperger, now it's Fr. Altman. The only clerical authority that counts here is Bishop Burns since it's his diocese.

" I suggest you find something better to do with your life than attack the courageous Catholics..."

I suggest you get your stories straight. Pick one lie and stick with it. This woman isn't "courageous" either. She put her children at risk out of stubborness and pride, failings you obviously share.
Ave Crux
@Ultraviolet You have a grave propensity for accusing others of lying....in public, no less. FOR THE THIRD OR FOURTH TIME....I DON'T READ YOU COMMENTS....ALL I NEED TO DO IS SEE YOUR OPENING SALVO ATTACKING YET ANOTHER GOOD PRIEST WITH YOUR NORMALLY MERCILESS APPROACH....THE FIRST SENTENCE OF YOUR POSTS SAYS EVERYTHING. THEN MY STOMACH TURNS ILL, AND I STOP READING.
Ultraviolet
"Attacking yet another good priest"....and I did no such thing. So you're a liar because you criticized a comment you actually didn't read.

If you'd read the comment, you would have found I was poking fun at YOU not Fr. Altman. So... you're still wrong and my word count is still shorter! :D
Ave Crux
DON'T FEED THE TROLLS:
Ultraviolet
Ultraviolet
Fact Check: Ave Crux was caught changing their argument after someone replied. Please remember that when reading their "perfectly relevant" story.
Ave Crux
FACT CHECK: ULTRAVIOLET IS LYING. UPDATE! Now the evidence is in....! Hear ye....hear ye....!

Let it hereby be duly noted that based on very "embarrassing" evidence amassed by Ultraviolet by taking covert screenshots of her fellow Catholics' posts (beware -- it could happen to you ;-0) there is now proof positive that I have been unjustly accused "changing [my] argument..."

This slanderou…More
FACT CHECK: ULTRAVIOLET IS LYING. UPDATE! Now the evidence is in....! Hear ye....hear ye....!

Let it hereby be duly noted that based on very "embarrassing" evidence amassed by Ultraviolet by taking covert screenshots of her fellow Catholics' posts (beware -- it could happen to you ;-0) there is now proof positive that I have been unjustly accused "changing [my] argument..."

This slanderous accusation of lying and double-dealing was thrown at me by Ultraviolet simply because I ADDED THE OBSERVATION TO MY POST ABOUT HOW MY OWN MEDICAL CONDITION ALSO MAKES IT NECESSARY FOR ME TO SOMETIMES ATTEND MASS WITHOUT A MASK (an experience I explain at length elsewhere to illustrate how this poor mother's situation SHOULD have been handled by her Pastor)

And because I added this information as a continuation of my train of thought in this matter-- rather than adding a SECOND comment below my FIRST comment saying exactly the same thing, Ultraviolet has accused me of the "crime" of "CHANGING [my] argument" in some nefarious way.

I wasn't aware that Ultraviolet sets the Rules for how we manage and update our posts if we have additional thoughts on a given topic or post.

And yet, the "evidence" so kindly provided by Ultraviolet shows that not only DIDN'T I change my argument, but I rather nailed my argument down even further with another detail to express what I was thinking.

For this "crime", Ultraviolet calls me a "lying little rat" in public....AND YET, ULTRAVIOLET'S OWN EVIDENCE SHOWS I CHANGED NOTHING AT ALL IN MY ARGUMENT, AND ALL I DID WAS SIMPLY ADD THE OBSERVATION TO MY COMMENT THAT I ALSO HAVE A MEDICAL EXEMPTION FROM WEARING A MASK AT MASS....

For the alleged crime of combining my thoughts into a single comment instead of adding a second one saying exactly the same thing, Ultraviolet would like to destroy my reputation, call me a "lying little rat", and tell the readers I can't be trusted......???????

Thank you, Ultraviolet, for clearing my name....(which you slandered to begin with)
Ultraviolet
Screen-caps don't lie, you charlatan. That's why I take them when I deal with a lying little rat. Pic related.
Ave Crux
@Ultraviolet Furthermore, you are constantly bullying people who don't agree with you. Well, I am not going to let you bully me.

Your only defense on this post is to accuse me of lying, of making things up, of changing posts to suit a narrative when I'm not even addressing you, nor have I even read anything you've written except a glance at the first inflammatory statement with which you start …More
@Ultraviolet Furthermore, you are constantly bullying people who don't agree with you. Well, I am not going to let you bully me.

Your only defense on this post is to accuse me of lying, of making things up, of changing posts to suit a narrative when I'm not even addressing you, nor have I even read anything you've written except a glance at the first inflammatory statement with which you start every post.

Frankly, I think you've lost your mind. Your behavior is absolutely bizarre. And I'm not going to let it stop me from stating my mind about a very upsetting issue with Catholics in churches right now, and sharing precise facts about my own experience in the church which I attend regularly. God bless.
Ultraviolet
"Furthermore, you are constantly bullying people who don't agree with you." --said the person who's calling me a "troll" to avoid discussing the issue reasonably.

"Your only defense on this post is to accuse me of lying, of making things up, of changing posts to suit a narrative when I'm not even addressing you"

Your references are clear and you got caught changing your commment AFTER I …More
"Furthermore, you are constantly bullying people who don't agree with you." --said the person who's calling me a "troll" to avoid discussing the issue reasonably.

"Your only defense on this post is to accuse me of lying, of making things up, of changing posts to suit a narrative when I'm not even addressing you"

Your references are clear and you got caught changing your commment AFTER I replied. Your story reflects your argument too precisely, even down to the pastor and usher supporting your petty vindictiveness.

No one is preventing you from "stating your mind". Please allow others that same freedom.

"Frankly, I think you've lost your mind."

You've already disqualified yourself on that point. My word count is shorter, too.. ;-)
Ave Crux
@Ultraviolet So now ADDING further details to my post in order to further develop my thoughts along the same line in the same post -- instead of posting a 2nd comment -- is "lying"...?

Well, nothing you have supposedly "captured" on me is at all embarrassing. Oh, horrors!.... I further developed my own comments (within moments, even!) in a single post instead of adding a 2nd comment seconds …More
@Ultraviolet So now ADDING further details to my post in order to further develop my thoughts along the same line in the same post -- instead of posting a 2nd comment -- is "lying"...?

Well, nothing you have supposedly "captured" on me is at all embarrassing. Oh, horrors!.... I further developed my own comments (within moments, even!) in a single post instead of adding a 2nd comment seconds later to say exactly the same thing I added to the first one...what a criiiiime....!

P.S. NEWS FLASH -- THAT'S WHAT THE EDIT FEATURE IS FOR -- AND I AM DOING THE SAME THING HERE ADDING THIS P.S. -- SO PEOPLE CAN FURTHER DEVELOP THEIR THOUGHTS IN THE SAME POST INSTEAD ADDING MORE COMMENTS ON TOP OF THEIR COMMENTS. OR ARE YOU WRITING RULES FOR HOW WE CAN USE THE EDIT FEATURE NOW?

And then you you are so small, so vindictive and intent on trying to destroy fellow Catholics that you actually take screen shots of comments to try to use them to embarrass people....? You don't see an aberration here in your behavior on a Catholic website at all?
Ultraviolet
Look who is still reading my comments! :D You went back and "added further details" AFTER I replied to address what I mentioned.You're changing what you orignally said, trying to cover your failed reasoning and mistakes. That's a lie by alteration.

"within moments even". That's a lie too. You changed what you said AFTER I replied. and it took me 17 minutes to write my comment. The comm…More
Look who is still reading my comments! :D You went back and "added further details" AFTER I replied to address what I mentioned.You're changing what you orignally said, trying to cover your failed reasoning and mistakes. That's a lie by alteration.

"within moments even". That's a lie too. You changed what you said AFTER I replied. and it took me 17 minutes to write my comment. The comments have time-stamps which DON'T change, even after editing.
Ave Crux 50 minutes ago. Ultraviolet 33 minutes ago. That's seventeen minutes, minimum.

"P.S. NEWS FLASH -- THAT'S WHAT THE EDIT FEATURE IS FOR ..."

You use the "edit" feature to change what you originally said when you realize you're wrong.

...and honest users don't do that, "rules" or not.

"You don't see an aberration here in your behavior on a Catholic website at all?"

...said the liar who changes what they orignally said after they realize it's wrong. ...said the name-calling bully who complains about "bullying".
Ave Crux
DON'T FEED THE TROLLS:
Ave Crux
I would like to share a similar experience with Gloria.TV readers and how it was handled with decency, compassion and pastoral discretion.

I have several severely debilitating physical issues. While at Mass one Sunday, I was so faint, I found it impossible to wear a mask. At the Offertory, an usher came over to me and said someone had "complained" about the fact I did not have my mask on and …More
I would like to share a similar experience with Gloria.TV readers and how it was handled with decency, compassion and pastoral discretion.

I have several severely debilitating physical issues. While at Mass one Sunday, I was so faint, I found it impossible to wear a mask. At the Offertory, an usher came over to me and said someone had "complained" about the fact I did not have my mask on and asked me to put it on.

I explained to the usher I was feeling faint and was not physically able to do that without it getting worse.

The usher immediately asked if I needed any assistance and assured me they would inform the person who complained and I would be left alone.

That's exactly what happened. No police were summoned to handcuff me if I didn't leave the church, much less at the very moment I was kneeling after receiving Holy Communion, disrupting the Sacred Mysteries in such an egregious, sacrilegeous manner.


In fact, the Pastor of this church once announced that he doesn't want anyone "policing" others who may not be wearing masks over their noses, etc., that one can never know the reason an individual may not be able to do as asked.

THAT is was a true Priest does -- THAT is how a true shepherd of souls acts...he doesn't summon the police to expel a woman from church just as she returns from Holy Communion.

It is mind-boggling that any Catholic would even defend that, much less DO that....

Further, this happened in a diocese where the Bishop absolutely requires that masks be worn at Mass.

CONCLUSION: Pastoral decency, restraint, charity and respect for the Sacred Mysteries is always THE priority....nothing less....
Ultraviolet
Your entire tailor-made story is as real as your "excellent Catholic attorney" and your "well-known Catholic apologist" It's also...
Ultraviolet
"It is mind-boggling that any Catholic would even defend that,"

It's mind-boggling a mother would risk her unborn child and infant deliberately provoking an arrest. But reason still beats rhetoric.
Ave Crux
DO NOT FEED THE TROLL: (This desperation on Ultraviolet's part is actually sad and pathological).

@Ultraviolet PLEASE BE ADVISED ONCE AGAIN THAT I AM NOT READING YOUR REPLY TO MY COMMENTS, SO YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME TYPING THEM.

This sad world is aggravating enough without adding to it the harassment of trolls.
Ultraviolet
Ave Crux
Oh, really? I concede absolutely nothing. Your inexplicable defense as a Catholic of this outrageous behavior by a Priest in the middle of Mass -- as a woman kneels for her Thanksgiving after receiving Holy Communion! -- is so desperate that you have had to resort to throwing rocks and mud, and accusing me of lying and making things up, and "changing" posts simply because I add additional though…More
Oh, really? I concede absolutely nothing. Your inexplicable defense as a Catholic of this outrageous behavior by a Priest in the middle of Mass -- as a woman kneels for her Thanksgiving after receiving Holy Communion! -- is so desperate that you have had to resort to throwing rocks and mud, and accusing me of lying and making things up, and "changing" posts simply because I add additional thoughts to my own comment rather than adding a second comment below it, as though there's something wrong with that???

You fit the definition perfectly:
Ultraviolet
"as a woman kneels for her Thanksgiving after receiving Holy Communion" Taylor Marshall said differently. Try reading the article again. Still waiting for you to explain why a good Catholic mother endangers her children with such antics, too.

I caught you changing your comments AFTER I replied to them. So yes, you did lie.

"I add additional thoughts to my own comment" -- AFTER you read my …More
"as a woman kneels for her Thanksgiving after receiving Holy Communion" Taylor Marshall said differently. Try reading the article again. Still waiting for you to explain why a good Catholic mother endangers her children with such antics, too.

I caught you changing your comments AFTER I replied to them. So yes, you did lie.

"I add additional thoughts to my own comment" -- AFTER you read my reply.and AFTER you realized you needed "additional thoughts". :PThat's dishonest and that's why I caught you with a screen-cap.

.
Ave Crux
Yeah, well FIRST YOU ACCUSE ME PUBLICLY and SPECIFICALLY OF CHANGING MY ARGUMENT....not simply expanding on my thoughts by sharing my own experience.

SECOND:
I hadn't even read [I DON'T READ YOUR EXTENSIVE SCREEDS] your unwelcome reply when I further developed my thoughts and the fact I further explained my own experience had absolutely nothing to do with YOU...

It's about TIME …More
Yeah, well FIRST YOU ACCUSE ME PUBLICLY and SPECIFICALLY OF CHANGING MY ARGUMENT....not simply expanding on my thoughts by sharing my own experience.

SECOND:
I hadn't even read [I DON'T READ YOUR EXTENSIVE SCREEDS] your unwelcome reply when I further developed my thoughts and the fact I further explained my own experience had absolutely nothing to do with YOU...

It's about TIME YOU STOP USING GLORIA TV TO SPREAD YOUR WRETCHED ACCUSATIONS AND SPIN YOUR SICK THEORIES ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE THINK AND DO AS THOUGH YOU ARE THE CENTER OF THEIR UNIVERSE AND EVERYTHING I WROTE HAD YOU IN MIND.

And as far as your absolutely clueless assertion that this woman endangered her child, if you had spent the countless hours I did preparing exhibits on the COVID stats for court cases, you would know that's not even a remote possibility.

Rather than share voluminous exhibits, I referred to a US stat on the internet. After the height of the "pandemic" the stats show 92% of all deaths were those over 55 years of age with FAR FEWER UNDER THE AGE OF 20 THAN FOR THE FLU.

Now just leave me alone, will you? You're a nuisance troll who thinks they know everything. Good bye.
J G Tasan
And where is the ‘Litany of Earth Hour’?
Ultraviolet
"The outrage is all the more toxic in that the Governor..." @Ave Crux Skip the CNN rhetoric, kay? :P The bishop decides church policy not the governor. Now you give the secular world precedence over The Church when it suits you. Followed by a charlatan's faux-piety.

"even as she was kneeling in prayer with the Blessed Sacrament."

Wrong. So says Taylor Marshall "When Deidre came back …More
"The outrage is all the more toxic in that the Governor..." @Ave Crux Skip the CNN rhetoric, kay? :P The bishop decides church policy not the governor. Now you give the secular world precedence over The Church when it suits you. Followed by a charlatan's faux-piety.

"even as she was kneeling in prayer with the Blessed Sacrament."

Wrong. So says Taylor Marshall "When Deidre came back from Communion, three officers waited for her..."

The police waited until after she'd received. That isn't a sacrilege, that's courtesy. You're re-writing what actually happened. Brain fog again, or moar fibbing again? ;-)

"What must Our Lord within this woman have experienced at such an injustice and outrage of the Sacred Mysteries....?"

The fallacious appeal to emotion doesn't work for you. The outrage is too wordy to be genuine.

..and solid bold paragraphs are no substitute for explaining why she chose to put her unborn child and her infant at risk during an arrest.

"and in Nazi Germany..."

Godwin's Law proven once again. Protip: Aquinas doesn't apply here since the Bishop does have "right reason" if based in over-abundance of caution. You fail at logic as you fail at theology. Fun Trivia: My word count's STILL lower than yours, even including your quotes. INB4 "Yerra Troll" YouTube and TL;DR :D
Ave Crux
DO NOT FEED THE TROLL:
Ultraviolet
Like I said, INB4... 'cuz everyone who exposes your lies is a troll, amirite? . Stay in fantasy-land, Ave Crux . It's safer there. :P
Ave Crux
DO NOT FEED THE TROLL (i.e. a Catholic who would actually defend the outrage of the Police officer leaning over and threatening to handcuff a kneeling mother holding her child and who -- as the mother explains in the interview -- was kneeling and trying to pay attention to Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament Who "was still on [her] tongue"...all of this arranged by the local "Shepherd of souls" -- …More
DO NOT FEED THE TROLL (i.e. a Catholic who would actually defend the outrage of the Police officer leaning over and threatening to handcuff a kneeling mother holding her child and who -- as the mother explains in the interview -- was kneeling and trying to pay attention to Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament Who "was still on [her] tongue"...all of this arranged by the local "Shepherd of souls" -- her Pastor -- who saw fit to orchestrate this outrage during the course of a Mass.

Yes, it's better not to reason with trolls who like to defend such egregious offenses in the sight of God because of their highly intellectual and sophisticated reasoning which misses the obvious.....like there are more pastoral ways in which to handle such "problems" without calling the police and creating a sacrilege in the middle of Mass, and without ignoring MEDICAL reasons, like pregnancy, for not wearing masks -- something I am quite familiar with as I almost fainted in the middle of Mass while wearing a mask, and have a medical exemption due to my medical conditions.
Ultraviolet
Where's your outrage at a mother who deliberately put her infant and unborn child at risk with this stunt in the first place? Typical Ave Crux "fake concern" for the family. Nice back-edit, too. Yes, I noticed. :D

"...like there are more pastoral ways in which to handle such problems..."

The priest already tried that. Like you, she just didn't want to listen. That's why the police got called…More
Where's your outrage at a mother who deliberately put her infant and unborn child at risk with this stunt in the first place? Typical Ave Crux "fake concern" for the family. Nice back-edit, too. Yes, I noticed. :D

"...like there are more pastoral ways in which to handle such problems..."

The priest already tried that. Like you, she just didn't want to listen. That's why the police got called. This woman forced this fiasco. That's the "obvious" you keep missing, love. Cry "troll" all you want. It won't change what happened, it won't make you right and my word count is still shorter. ;-)
Ultraviolet
@Ave Crux God's watching you change your comments after I reply to them. A lie by alteration is still a lie. During Holy Week no less. ;-)

...and your "back-edit" still fails. 1.) If she had a genuine medical reason, she should have brought it up to the priest BEFORE Mass. 2.) Many masks are totally porous (like my tagelmust) and don't interfere with breathing 3.) "something I am quit…More
@Ave Crux God's watching you change your comments after I reply to them. A lie by alteration is still a lie. During Holy Week no less. ;-)

...and your "back-edit" still fails. 1.) If she had a genuine medical reason, she should have brought it up to the priest BEFORE Mass. 2.) Many masks are totally porous (like my tagelmust) and don't interfere with breathing 3.) "something I am quite familiar with as I almost fainted" is an anecdotal fallacy/ pity ploy.. Now go back-edit your comment again with another "added argument". ;-)
Ave Crux
@Ultraviolet Oh really...what exactly did I change in my comments, except to make it more precise within a moment or two after posting so I would be sure it was clear....?

I invite you to show readers how I supposedly "lied".... since you are such a wonderful person you even take screen shots of other people's posts so you can try to embarrass them later. You're not ashamed of your behavior?

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@Ultraviolet Oh really...what exactly did I change in my comments, except to make it more precise within a moment or two after posting so I would be sure it was clear....?

I invite you to show readers how I supposedly "lied".... since you are such a wonderful person you even take screen shots of other people's posts so you can try to embarrass them later. You're not ashamed of your behavior?

You are a very sad troll in the truest sense of the word. I have only replied because you have accused me in public of lying.....

That is the only time I will reply --- other than that:
Ave Crux
@Ultraviolet Oh -- and by the way -- I don't read anything beyond "MORE" when you post, and even at that I only scan the first sentence, which is where I saw you accused me of lying. So nothing in my comments could have addressed what you were saying anyway.....!
Ultraviolet
Protip: You DID just admit to changing your comment. All you're trying to hide now is 1.) what and 2.) when and 3.) why. :-)

1.) You added your "medical" related argument. pic related.

2.) You added this AFTER I replied, which is what you do when you're wrong.

3.) Why is obvious enough. See 2.) Gotcha, you back-editing charlatan..
Ultraviolet
"I only scan the first sentence.... So nothing in my comments could have addressed what you were saying anyway.....!" That lie got debunked back on the Abp.Vigano post. :P Your pic? My reply... . :D
One more comment from Ultraviolet
Ultraviolet
"you even take screen shots of other people's posts so you can try to embarrass them later." -You embarass yourself when you get caught changing your comments after someone replies. You're one of those, "if nobody catches me, it never happened" types. You're also dumb enough to try the same trick two nights in a row on the same person. :P
Ave Crux
The outrage is all the more toxic in that the Governor has said that masks are NOT mandatory....and yet the Priest chose to arrange a sacrilegious intervention by having the police enter to expel this woman during the Mass in progress, and at the very moment when she had received Holy Communion, even as she was kneeling in prayer with the Blessed Sacrament -- OUR LORD TRULY AND FULLY PRESENT -- …More
The outrage is all the more toxic in that the Governor has said that masks are NOT mandatory....and yet the Priest chose to arrange a sacrilegious intervention by having the police enter to expel this woman during the Mass in progress, and at the very moment when she had received Holy Communion, even as she was kneeling in prayer with the Blessed Sacrament -- OUR LORD TRULY AND FULLY PRESENT -- within her.

This Priest is acting as though he has absolutely no faith in what this woman has just received in the Blessed Sacrament -- confronting a woman with handcuffs at the very moment of Holy Communion in the middle of Mass.

IT IS A SACRILEGE....What must Our Lord within this woman have experienced at such an injustice and outrage of the Sacred Mysteries....? How will this Priest answer for such an abuse when he stands in judgment?

Further, the State of Texas has reported that the COVID cases is at THE LOWEST EVER, and this is after removing the mask mandate.

When citizens and Catholics put up no resistance to Stalinistic tactics, it is no different than acquiescence to the gradual imposition of the unjust tyranny which took place in Communist regimes and in Nazi Germany when everyone simply did what they were told and did not resist.

If "unjust laws are no law at all" (Aquinas), how much more unjust are the actions of this Priest in the absence of any law whatsoever which would require him to impose the use of masks on a pregnant woman kneeling in prayer after Holy Communion....?

"Human law is law only by virtue of its accordance with right reason; and thus it is manifest that it flows from the eternal law. And in so far as it deviates from right reason it is called an unjust law; in such case it is no law at all, but rather a species of violence."

-- Thomas Aquinas, Summa theologiae, Ia-Ilae, q. xciii, art. 3, ad 2m.
Louis IX
This is how civil disobedience works. Do we really think the police want to waste resources and look bad by arresting a pregnant woman for a misdemeanor?
Ultraviolet
She also chose to put her infant and unborn child at risk during her civil disobedience. Worse, now the authorities are involved with her family and so-called "Child Protective Services" is always looking for new "at-risk" families to break up.
Ultraviolet
" asked during Mass to either comply to mask rules or to be arrested.".--and she chose that, even though she's pregnant and holding an infant. The police don't bluff about that and, yes, The Church is a business.

Management has the right to set the dress-code for the venue. Management has done so: "We also expect the Catholic faithful in the Diocese of Dallas to continue to wear masks …More
" asked during Mass to either comply to mask rules or to be arrested.".--and she chose that, even though she's pregnant and holding an infant. The police don't bluff about that and, yes, The Church is a business.

Management has the right to set the dress-code for the venue. Management has done so: "We also expect the Catholic faithful in the Diocese of Dallas to continue to wear masks out of charity and concern for all those around them."

Ultimately, part of being "the Catholic faithful" is recognizing the chain of command. It's been a source of unity and strength for millenia. One has only to look at the many hundreds of other Christian denominations/ sub-groups to see how "I'm right because I prayed on it and God tole me I'm right" works out.
Louis IX
‘Expect’ is not the same as ‘command’.
I recall what Christ did in the Temple that was run like a business. Hmmmm
Franek99
this police person was right. Our clergy became a businessmen. They are not shepherds anymore.