Article 297 of Amoris Laetitia: "No one can be condemned forever, because that is not the logic of the Gospel!"
According to your Amoris screed and your comments to the media, you don't believe in hell or eternal punishment, so what's to fear?
Oh, that's easy. He's scared Gaia, the conscious spirit of the planet, is going to throw a huge menopausal hissy fit at other people's eco-sins and his Vatican will catch a stray earthquake.
After everything this pope says or does is filtered through the Internet and all the talking heads and self appointed inquisitors reacting to sensational headlines, the Holy Father is effectively slandered, driving Catholics to attack snd hate the Vicar of Christ. It is a snare laid down by Satan the father of lies and half truths, and naive Catholics do his work..
Hello, Sir.
I hate imposing, but your response has me asking questions.
Where specifically is the lie involved? I’m just interested to find where he is slandered?
I’m not much of religious person, but even I can tell that Pope Francis is a big contradiction compared to even the pope before him.
Is agreeing with him, no matter what, part of what Catholicism means? In your Church, is there any questioning of him allowed at all?
I’m just curious where the limits of the Pope’s authority are. When it comes to beliefs, Pope Francis seems no different than any other evil oligarch (Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, George Soros, Rupert Murdoch, Ted Turner, etc.), just with priestly robes.
——a questioner wanting to know more about your Church.
The problem is that many Catholics are not reading the Catechism of the Catholic Church nor the encyclical Rerum Novarum by Pope Leo XXII or Pope John Paul II’s Centesimus Annus, all of which teach the Social doctrines of the Church which Pope Francis is merely reiterating. Yes, taking care of creation is part of Church teaching, something that needs to be reminded in many parts of the world where nature is polluted ruined and destroyed. The problem is that people spend more time reacting to sensational headlines and less time knowing and living the teachings of the Church.
@thomasvalle Please research the pagan Pachamama ritual that took place under the watchful eye "Pope Francis" on October 4, 2019. Then research the Abu Dhabi Document and the Abrahamic Family House that is being promoted by "Pope Francis."
Then read the Catechism of the Catholic Church that states the following:
"Outside the Church there is no salvation"
846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:
Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.
After you have done this, tell me how "Pope Francis" is not, at the very least, failing in his mission to warn poor souls who persist in religious error that they will not be saved. Rather than call those "outside the Church" to "enter it and remain in it," by word and example, "Pope Francis" encourages those in error to remain in that error. And remember, that we sin not only by what we "do" but what we "fail to do."
The problem is that people on the Internet and elsewhere twist and distort the words, actions and intentions of the pope with the same skill that some people twist and misinterpret the Sacred Scriptures. As for the Pachamama saga, one need only watch the event in context. The claim that the natives were bowing down and worshipping the “Pachamama idol” is based on an edited video snippet showing them bowing down to the little wooden statue. In reality, they were giving thanks to God as our Father and thanking Him for Creation when they bowed down. What most people saw was an edited clip. Furthermore, the event was in the context of the feast of Saint Francis of Assisi where in the ceremony they sang St. Francis’ Canticle of the Sun, where St. Francis gives thanks to God for “Brother Sun” “Sister Moon” and “Mother Earth”. those are the words of St. Francis of Assisi.
The problem is that people were too lazy to watch the entire event, and put their faith in the Internet and all the talking heads who see everything through their smoke colored political glasses. Since they obviously did not understand the Spanish, Portuguese and Italian that was spoken at the ceremony, they based they]ir conclusions on what they saw edited. Once again, the gossip and the false news narrative drowned out the truth, and people were reacting and taking sides on the false narratives not the real intentions.
Here is that ceremony on context if you want to bother to watch the whole thing. The wooden statue was part of a display, along with a parrot, canoes and fishing nets and other items representing Amazonian regions. In the end you will see these same people planting trees giving thanks to God Our Father our Creator, and not “installing demons” or worshipping pagan idols as you may have heard on the Internet. Here is the video:
youtu.be/wPK7RpoUzPk
"the Holy Father is effectively slandered." @thomasville
Wrong. Slander involves speech. Text based deliberate falsehoods constitute libel, not slander.
Additionally, a statement is neither slander nor libel unless it is 1.) false 2.) conveyed in either a reckless or malicious manner. You have shown neither 1.) nor 2.) applies here and both are necessary for either term to apply.
"driving Catholics to attack and hate the Vicar of Christ."
Wrong. Catholics have plenty of reasons to attack and hate the Vicar of Christ, simply by what he's done.
"It is a snare laid down by Satan the father of lies and half truths..."
Wrong. It's a reaction to an alien, non-Catholic ideology being promoted -by- the Vicar of Christ.
"Yes, taking care of creation is part of Church teaching,"
Unsupported premise. Quote, verbatim, from the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the encyclical Rerum Novarum by Pope Leo XXII and Pope John Paul II’s Centesimus Annus, since you claim all three teach what "Pope Francis is merely reiterating." (your words).
Specifically, quote from each of these sources you cited where "we have to face God’s judgement for our failure to be faithful stewards of the world he has entrusted to our care" which is what Pope Francis is claiming. Yeah, you need a supporting quote from all three. You made the claim now back it up.
"...and less time knowing and living the teachings of the Church."
...and I'm going to rub your nose constantly in those very words when you, ineivtably, can't come up with the required quotes from all three documents you cited. Fair warning on that. Sanctimonious Francis-defenders deserve eveything you get when you fall short.
"The problem is that people on the Internet and elsewhere twist and distort the words, actions and intentions of the pope..."
Unsupported premise.. No evidence of that shown here. If you wish to argue the Pope said something different and "the words, actions and intentions of the pope" have been "twist(ed) and distort(ed)" then the burden of proof is on you to show it. You have not. Saying it and showing it are not the same thing.
"As for the Pachamama saga, one need only watch the event in context."
The context was even worse. Dear Francesco gladly participated in ceremonies to a pagan earth diety. There is no "context" that can change that.
" In reality, they were giving thanks to God as our Father and thanking Him for Creation when they bowed down."
Unless you profess to read minds, you have no support for your claim. Worse, since you're fond of context... Parading a pagan idol around on a littter indictates reverence and submission, as it has for at least the last 6,000 years of religious history.
"What most people saw was an edited clip..."
Explain the Pachamama procession into the Vatican, just for lulz. Srsly, go ahead and try. The stills aloe (nevermind the vids) are damning.
"Furthermore, the event was in the context of the feast of Saint Francis of Assisi..."
St. Francis of Assisi never worshipped Pachamama. Historically spealking, it's a certainty he never even heard of that false diety.
"Since they obviously did not understand the Spanish, Portuguese and Italian that was spoken at the ceremony..."
Who wants to bet some turkey from Illinois isn't fully fluent in all three languages, either. Or am I mistaken and addressing one of GTV's rare polyglots, hmmm? . ;-)
"the false news narrative drowned out the truth,"
Again, no evidence shown by you of this happening...
"The wooden statue was part of a display..."
This is a "wooden statue" also. Will yo make excuses when some future Pope includes this statue as part of a religious "display"? Yes or no? That isn't a rhetorical question. Will you or will you notjustify this "wooden statue" an acceptable part of Catholic worship?
" In the end you will see these same people planting trees giving thanks to God Our Father our Creator..."
Wrong. "You" won't see that and neither shall I... because they're pagans. God the Father is not Pachamama the mother.She's another false diety created by the Evil One to mislead humanity. She's no more real than Sekhmet, Tiamat, Freya, or Xiombarg.
Green Doom the next planned step in the Communist take over of the world and the One World Religion. Our Lady of Good Success, pray for us.
A Catholic’s only duty is to make all our lives a reparation to the Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of Mary. This is the Popes only concern.